#349. 'Daredevil' (2003)
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With JVL out this week (Sonny relays well-wishes after cracking a fake "leg amputation" joke), Mike Warren and Sonny Bunch fly solo to tackle 2003's Daredevil, and Sonny's verdict lands squarely between two dueling listener texts: JVL had texted in beforehand insisting the movie is plotless and among the worst Marvel films ever made (worse than Fantastic Four, Morbius, Craven, or Madame Web), while another listener called it "criminally underrated" — Sonny concludes both are basically right, praising Colin Farrell's unhinged, possibly drug-fueled Bullseye and Michael Clarke Duncan's physically spot-on but poorly written Kingpin, while dinging the movie's four jammed-together storylines, its shockingly high body count for a Ben Affleck superhero movie, Affleck's wooden line readings, a wasted Jennifer Garner (who Sonny thinks looked better on Alias and disliked in her Elektra costume), and the legendarily terrible nu-metal/"butt rock" soundtrack (Evanescence, Hoobastank, Nickelback, Saliva) that gets picked apart in detail. Mike, watching it essentially fresh with no memory of the original theatrical run, mostly found it a slog despite its 104-minute runtime, and the two riff on its constant Spider-Man (2002) cribbing, the bizarre choice to introduce Murdock and Foggy Nelson as prosecutors rather than defense attorneys, Jon Favreau's small role as Foggy years before becoming a Disney/Marvel/Star Wars power player, and Easter eggs like fighters named after comic writers (Joe Quesada) and an uncredited Ellen Pompeo as Karen Page. The episode opens with its usual long banter stretch: Sonny details his evolving "comfort camping" (not glamping) setup for Boy Scout campouts — a properly sized four-person REI tent, a thick memory-foam sleeping pad, a portable battery, and a clip-on tent fan — plus scout-skit humiliation rituals and a dad's impressive Blackstone griddle, while Mike recounts a surreal experience at an alcohol-free extended-stay hotel in Atlanta that sent him next door to a competitor's bar to buy beer and carry it back, spinning off into a long tangent about hotel breakfast bars, mid-tier hotel economics, and the franchise-vs-corporate ownership question. Box office chat covers a steep ~48% second-weekend drop for the Super Mario Galaxy movie versus a much softer 24% dip for Project Hail Mary (now projected past $300 million and back in IMAX 70mm after being bumped by Mario), solid-but-unspectacular numbers for Hoppers, and speculation about whether a hypothetical Encanto sequel could replicate its streaming success in theaters. The show closes with Sonny's own college-era Daredevil story: sneaking a fifth of Jim Beam into a nearly empty Charlottesville multiplex, only to have the theater fill with bourbon fumes the moment he cracked the seal.
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Guest00:00:00There is no proof that Daredevil even exists.
Vic00:00:08He can hear it before it makes a sound. He can sense it before it happens.
Mike00:00:30Welcome to the Sub-Beacon podcast. I'm your co-host Mike Warren. Joining me is my one co-host Sonny Bunch. JVL is off this week. We are join us over at Sub-Beacon.com. How can I forget that? Join us over at Sub-Beacon.com. Tell your friends and family if they want to listen to the show. They've got to do it at Sub-Beacon.com. We're going to be talking about Daredevil, the 2003
Sonny00:01:00movie that started all later on in the show. Started all what? Save it. Save it. Uh, but first, Sonny, what is going on with you? Um, uh, first off, uh, thoughts, thoughts to JVL this week. He had to, he had to pull out at the last minute. Uh, Scott's got some stuff going on. So, you know, you're, we're thinking about you, JVL and, uh, uh, hang in there. Have you back? Um, he, he, uh, he's getting a leg amputated. Sorry. I had, was I not supposed to say that? Is that, is that, uh, no, he, he, uh, he's got stuff going on and it's the wrong leg. He's going to end up with two legs. Uh, no, it's, uh, but, uh, seriously, thoughts to JVL. Um, uh, I want to talk about camping. I went camping. Yes. I feel like we're, I feel like we just take turns going camping on this show every, every weekend. It's a different Boy Scouts camp out, but we went camping. We went camping. And I think I've finally, I think I've finally accumulated all of the things I need to camp comfortably to my satisfaction of comfort. Right. Which is what's important. Let me tell you what I added this time. So I, I mentioned, I got a larger tent. I got a four person tent, which is really a two person tent. Like these, these tent sizes are lies. They're lies concocted by a big tent to, to make you buy the wrong size tent. And then you have to go buy a bigger tent. Ironically, they big tent sells you small tents. That's that's make you go buy more big tents later. Anyway. But like lucky for me, there was an REI tent, four person REI tent that was on sale for like 40% off or something. I got it for like, I got it for I got it for much cheaper. And like, I know there are other tents that are equally good and cheaper, whatever. The thing I like about REI tents is I can set them up myself in like three minutes. And this tent was no no exception to this. I like it. I need it. I just I needed my son to hold like one end of the cross pole as I was putting it all in. And then it was it was and then I was able to do everything else myself. So it's it's it's a really anyway. So step number one, get the right size tent, four person tent, not two person tent for two two person camping. Rookie mistake. I had no idea. Second thing I have learned is that the the you want to get I am I'm not a believer in the air mattresses, the blow up mattresses. I mean, I assume they're preferred if you're like going if you're if you are going somewhere where you need to like conserve space, you really want to get it that. But I'm not doing that because I'm just driving to a place and then just simple car camping. Yeah. So what the second thing I have learned is that the little the little like egg crate things that you put on those are no good. Those are no terrible, terrible. Those are no good. You don't want those. I don't like the air pads because they tend to deflate and they're you know, they're they're loud and they're noisy and whatever. But the thing I have found is these memory roll memory foam like roll away pads that are enormous. They're like they're they're not heavy, but they're enormous. They're you know, they're like like my full like putting your arms around an oak tree. You know, they're big. But the but they are so comfortable to sleep on. And so this on this trip, we were sleeping directly on the ground, not on like wood pallets. Right. Which is kind of how we had been, you know, to have been to campsites that had these raised these raised kind of wood platforms. Right, right, right. Yeah, yeah. Not this time. This this was right on the ground. And let me tell you, the the the foam, the three inch thick memory foam pad directly from the Shang Zong product province of China was a was a godsend. I've had it for the last couple of trips. But this this time in particular, it was just like, I could not feel the ground. I could not feel the ground. It was it was that comfortable. Can I can I offer one
Mike00:04:59even better for if you really go into high gear, and you really want to lean into the old man this it's the camping cot gets you completely off the ground. I know I know folks who like the camping cot. I don't I don't love the camping cot in the tent. It's there's that there's like my the tent I have is not that big. It's four person. Like I feel like if I had a six person tent, that's fair. It would. Well, you know, I will say I will say the four person tent.
Sonny00:05:29The four person tent again. I kept all the water out. It rained. It rained like on and off the whole the whole time we were there, but it didn't rain that hard except for once. For like 30 minutes, it rained pretty hard and no water got in. No water. So perfect. Yeah, perfectly. REI. They make the they make good tents.
Mike00:05:54But how I mean, how was the rest of the camp out? Was everybody was there? It was there. I'm not done.
Sonny00:05:59Explaining all the things I need. Oh, oh, you're you're you're still you're still going deep. I'm still going. OK, wow. OK, so the third thing, the third thing I have I have realized is that you need you need like a little portable electric battery to charge all your things because I'm not going to be stuck in a situation where I do not have my phone and the ability to check. Check Twitter and Twitter and all the other things I check. I want to be able to do my crossword puzzle on the New York Times puzzle app. And I want to be able to do world and I want to be and I and I do not want to. I do not want to have to worry about charging my battery. The fourth and final thing that I and this was a big this was a big one. I did not even realize how much I needed it is a little portable. I actually have it right here. A little portable fan, like a little portable fan, like battery powered van. And it's got like a little hook here. And I just hook it. You just hook it right to the top and you tilt it like you can hear it tilting, folks. You can't see because it tilts right down and it is like a ceiling fan on the roof of my tent. And that was that because it wasn't it wasn't really cold enough to be in my, you know, 18 degree sleeping bag or whatever. But turn that fan on full blast. And it was, you know, like 60 or 59 outside, something like that. Turn that fan on full blast. And I was oh, yeah, I was like, yeah, this is what I need. So those are the things you if you are like me, you are not a camping person and you have a child and you foolishly get them into scouting. That's what you need. You need a four person tent. You need a memory foam mattress. You need a battery and you need a ceiling fan that you can attach to the roof of your tent. That's what you need. Those are the four things. Sonny's tips for a successful camping adventure. Do we need a term? Because I would I would not describe what you have described. As glamping. Right. But but it's a tick or two away. Like you're you're you're you're butting up against the the glamping the glamping term. I'm OK. I don't like glamping. I would say glamping is slightly different in that I get this. I get the I mean, I don't really know how to define all these things. When I think of glamping, I think of like you remember that episode of Parks and Rec? Did you watch Parks and Rec? Yes, I did. Yes. There's a Parks and Rec watch. There's a Parks and Rec episode where Tom Haverford goes camping. Yes. And he's got like he's got like a lounge chair and like a 60 inch TV. Yeah. And like it's not it's not. See, that is what I think of when I think of glamping. That that is glamping me. I'm just I'm comfort camping. I'm comfort camping. Comfort camping. That's a good term for it. I think that's I feel like that's an acceptable way to describe it. OK, so so can I can I ask now how the rest of the camp out went? Were there were there scout skits where that was there were ghost stories around the fucking fire. The skits, the skits are just it's they're legendarily every single time I have to endure one of these. I just question I question who I guess there's some I guess it's a tradition or something. I don't know. But it's the worst. It's the worst thing that exists. Here's the thing. Here's the thing. None of them. The thing about the scout skits.
Mike00:09:29Is nobody likes them. Like everybody. Everybody knows they're bad. Everybody knows they're cheesy. Everybody knows they're like a chore to do. And yet it keeps like it is. It is a great example of how like the the inertia of of tradition, you know, it just goes because that's what you do. It's no, I know. I'll tell you what it is. I'll tell you what it is, Mike. It's a humiliation ritual. This is what they've been talking about and all the
Sonny00:09:59and all the QAnon and Epstein subreddits. This is the humiliation ritual that we all have to endure to to to make it through.
Mike00:10:09Who's being humiliated? The people participating in the people watching. That's that's that's the question.
Sonny00:10:16The both. No, the skits are the skits are terrible. Food was fine. We had one of the dads like cooked all the meals, which is great.
Mike00:10:23That's always good. That was. Did he have that? Did he have that? Did he have like the the real griddle? Set up like with the with where, you know, either brings like a butane or propane and like it's all.
Sonny00:10:36Yeah, I think it's what's it called? Black, a black stone. Oh, he had a black stone. Oh, wow. Yeah. Yeah. He had like a black stone, which was which are pretty. I like I've now been to several campouts where a person has a black stone is cooking. I'm like this. I would like to have one of these kind of in my just in my backyard. And I would cook I would cook a bunch of chicken and steaks and stuff. But oh, yeah, that's great. I feel I already have. My problem is I already have a grill that I never use. And one of the reasons I never really use it is just I like it. I don't I don't grill. I don't cook things that I grill. And when I cook steak, I prefer to cook it indoors in on a cast iron skillet in a 500 degree oven. You know, like I just I have a I prefer the control of the oven and the cast iron skillet to the to the.
Mike00:11:24Well, and you don't you don't want to lose that fat, right? Like you want it to be wasting in its fat. You want it to render. I want it to.
Sonny00:11:30So I want the meat to soak in its own juices. Yeah, I've killed that. I personally have not killed the animal, but the animal has been killed for me. And I will I will savor every part of it. I don't want it running into the some sluice.
Mike00:11:45But but you ate well on the on the camp out. Yeah, the food was the food was pretty good.
Sonny00:11:50Everybody, everybody had a good time. Some people got poison ivy. I have not yet gotten poison ivy. Knock on wood. Some guys were having it pop up. Like three or four days later.
Mike00:12:00And what like how do you get poison? I don't know. Like I always felt like the moment I heard what poison ivy was and like understood three leaves bad and all that stuff. Like I've been living my entire life looking out for poison ivy when I'm like in the woods. Like I just I guess you just miss it. I don't know. Like I just miss it.
Sonny00:12:23And also kids are stupid. Kids are kids.
Mike00:12:25So these are mostly kids getting it.
Sonny00:12:27Yeah, we're surrounded. We're surrounded by children. We're surrounded by children who are just like crashing through vines and shit like we got to get to our fort. We got to go protect our fort. Right. And it's just like a pile of sticks in in the middle of an ocean of poison ivy. So like, I don't know. But luckily, neither I nor my son got it. So we're fine.
Mike00:12:48Hooray.
Sonny00:12:48I mean, the rockets, there were rockets, you know, rockets got shot off.
Mike00:12:53Oh, yeah. I mean, this is literally what the last.
Sonny00:12:55It's every Boy Scout camp is the same. All these are all these Cub Scout camp. They're the same. I mean, there's like nothing. There's nothing to them.
Mike00:13:02Yeah. No. All right. Well, and you came back and you survived and and and you're you're counting down the days until you get to go camping again.
Sonny00:13:11Right. So I can't can't wait. I can't wait.
Mike00:13:15See, the good thing that that my son, my oldest son is in Boy Scouts now is that I don't have to go on the campouts. But if I choose to go on the campouts, all I think, as I've mentioned on the show before, all of the. Adults do their own thing. And so the story is that the adults eat really well. I haven't partaken yet, but and you're just kind of they're chilling out. And that sounds like a nightmare for you. But that's kind of nice, you know, every once in a while to stay outside.
Sonny00:13:46So it's interesting. It's interesting. There are two different there are two different like kind of camping things here where I live. There are there's the Cub Scouts, Boy Scouts, and then there's adventure guides. Which is run by YMCA. OK, yeah. And like the the YMCA is like the dads like sit around like the dads literally bring TV. See, this is more close. This is close to this is what dads dads bring TVs and we sit in our chairs and we and we we definitely don't drink alcohol because that's not allowed at the YMCA camps. Sure, exactly. And then and we and we eat like good and we eat like good meals like we have. We make good food and like that. That's a little bit different than the. Boy Scout camps where there actually is definite. There is no drinking at the Boy Scout camps. Everybody's a real fucking Nazi about that. Absolutely not. Boy Scout camps.
Mike00:14:37So, well, well, you can kind of you can kind of understand.
Sonny00:14:41You can kind of understand where that where that comes from. Perverts ruin it, ruining it for everyone. All right.
Mike00:14:46All right. Well, what's going on with me? You did.
Sonny00:14:49What's going on with you, Mike? I appreciate the sentiment.
Mike00:14:52I appreciate this. I appreciate the sentiment. You were sending the vibes that way. It's I was trying to break up.
Sonny00:14:57I was I said several times, Mike. How was your week? Mike, Mike, how was your weekend? But it wasn't going through because of the the Internet.
Mike00:15:05Yeah. It's true. True story. That was the case. No. So, no, everything. Everything. So I'm on the road for my day job just doing some reporting out here. So I had a just literally just before we we started recording here. I had a experience that I hadn't had before because I've, you know, I've been a political reporter for. Sixteen years. And so I've, you know, been hotel to hotel to hotel and sort of seen it all. So I'm at a I'm in one of these places like in a suburban area where there are like multiple hotels in the same part, like share share kind of parking lot or share like. Yeah.
Sonny00:15:47Entrances got like a share next to a Ramada.
Mike00:15:51Right. That that sort of thing. And but they're of, you know, the different the competing brands for the different. Companies, right, because you have you have basically like four or five major hotel groups and then all the brands that are underneath, which are all kind of the same anyway. And so I am staying at one and I was getting ready to I was setting my things up in my hotel room that I'm staying at tonight, getting ready to do this podcast. And I was like, you know what? I've been I've been driving all day and working hard all day and writing and filing and doing all this reporting.
Sonny00:16:29You're in the salt mines, man.
Mike00:16:31You're telling me, you know, hard. It's hard work. I said, you know what I'm going to do before we start this podcast? I'm going to get myself a beer.
Sonny00:16:39I'm going to get myself from the just did you get a beer from the the little cantina area and bring it bring it like the little like mini mart, the little like convenience mart.
Mike00:16:49So so so this is this is the this is what what I've never experienced before. So, yes, those convenience marts right at the right. Right. It's like either next to the front desk. Or behind the front desk, whatever. Sure. So I march on down there. I got some time. I get a beer, maybe maybe even pop one, you know, before the podcast starts. Get a little get a little buzz going before the podcast starts. And I look.
Sonny00:17:14You got a problem. I don't have a problem. You need to you need to get checked out.
Mike00:17:21Anyway, so thank you for your concern. I so I look in the little refrigerator case and I see Coca-Cola. Coca-Cola and Cherry Coke and Sprite and vitamin water and Gatorade and our Powerade or whatever. And all the other no alcoholic beverages, no, no beer, no wine. And I I went to the front desk and I said, do you guys not not sell alcohol here? And the woman at the front desk goes, no, like like I was like she offended. Well, she was offended by your drinking. No, no, no, no, no. She was not offended. She was just kind of like like as if almost as if nobody had ever asked before or or like or the question was ridiculous. And so I was like, oh, where are you right now?
Sonny00:18:09What I am.
Mike00:18:10I'm I am in Atlanta, Georgia. Like, I'm actually not I'm actually not that far from the airport. Like, it's like I'm not in the middle of nowhere. I'm not a dry county or anything like that.
Sonny00:18:19You're not you're not in like the heart of, you know, I don't I don't even know what dry counties are like in one of the Kentucky maybe. Yeah, there's yeah.
Mike00:18:28I mean, there's dry counties. There's ever or moist counties, as they say. They're like after I have. Yeah, I know. And so I mean, I'm a moist. Right. Dripping. So. So right after right after I she says that, like, like, no, like, like, then she says, but actually looks at her watch and she says, but you can go to the courtyard next door and get one. And I was like, what? Like. I was like, well, but I want to drink it here. Like, I'm wondering. She's like, yeah, just just go over there and get whatever you want. And like, you bring it back over here. It was like it's like this weird thing. So the story is that they actually have a bar at the one next door, not just the little mini mart where I sell. And so so I just walked over there and, you know, saddled right up to the bar where nobody was at. And one was like, what would you like? And I got it. Well, OK, I got a couple of beers and just walked back. On like back on over across the parking lot. And it's it was like a it was like a it was a weird experience. And I could tell as I was walking through the lobby of my own hotel, there were like a lot of it looked like a lot of men who, you know, are here on business together, you know, and they were kind of congregating or maybe figuring out people were getting in or whatever. And I could see them like eyeing the beers, like almost like where did where did he get those? Because it's like this like this. It's like this beer desert here. And I. Nobody asked me. I would have told me Oasis was across the street. But it's the whole the whole thing with like hotels and the shared space and the shared like parking lot. There's like a shared parking lot and all these things. It's it's so it's so strange and odd to me because I get the sense that it's kind of like, you know, it's kind of this way in restaurants where like restaurants that are close together, like the staffs kind of like know each other and they like converse and they trade meals and all that sort of stuff. And and I get the sense that despite the fact that these hotels are like compete, you know, competitors with each other, there's like lots of there's just lots of cross pollination. Anyway, it was just weird. And I've just never experienced that of like having to like leave my hotel to get a beer to bring back. So did they did they.
Sonny00:20:47So they let you leave the bar with the beer.
Mike00:20:50Oh, yeah. She like she just handed them to me.
Sonny00:20:53She's like, here's a bucket.
Mike00:20:56No, I should have asked for the bucket. Can I get.
Sonny00:20:59Like two buckets of beer, please.
Mike00:21:01A bucket of Coors Lights, please. I just, you know, it's it would have been to me, it would have been weirder. It would have been less weird, I should say. It would have been less weird if she was just like, nope, you're shit out of luck. And like, that's it. But like, clearly, like, clearly, it's preposterous to ask if this hotel I am in has beer. And it's also like obvious. Just go next door, like because. Because when I because I should say, like when I said, well, no, no, I want to drink a beer here in my hotel room. She was like, just buy one over there and bring it back. Like I was like an idiot for for. I was like, well, what is this whole operation?
Sonny00:21:41You clearly are. I like I don't know what's done. You don't understand. You don't understand the laws of the outer Georgia. I don't even. I don't know.
Mike00:21:50I'm like, I'm like, I'm like in right right in Atlanta. I don't know. The whole thing was just weird.
Sonny00:21:55It is weird. It's weird that they don't. It's weird that they didn't sell it there. That is that in and of itself is weird like that. I actually find odd. I find that odd. And now, you know, maybe it's like maybe they lost their liquor license because a bunch of, you know, they sold they sold beer to a bunch of kids or something. I don't know. It could be something like that thing that happened. Certainly, but it could be the franchise owner just doesn't want to, you know, is there nowhere to is there like a restaurant in in this hotel at all? Is it?
Mike00:22:24No, there's there's no restaurant. It's it's one of these like breakfast in the morning. Yeah. Included hotels.
Sonny00:22:30But you get it. You get it. You got a breakfast bar and there's a breakfast bar. There's a breakfast bar. So you have not had the breakfast bar yet.
Mike00:22:36No, I just got to this hotel today.
Sonny00:22:38Right, right, right. So you I'm excited to hear what the breast. You got to tell us next week with the breakfast.
Mike00:22:43Yeah, yeah, I'll save it for next week's show.
Sonny00:22:45Let me tell you, I'm a big fan of hotel breakfast bars, shitty, shitty hotel breakfast bars because they are. It's it's like the the there's nothing. There's really nothing quite like. Walking down and trying to decide which terrible, awful breakfast thing you're going to eat like I want the I want the right. I want the eggs that are either runny or are like hard and and, you know, like little pellets. Or I want if you're in a if you're in like a I don't even know if this is actually slightly nicer or slightly less nice. But if you get you get one of the places with the waffle makers, it has like the little cup.
Mike00:23:29You pour it in and then you put you pour the turn the waffle maker over in it and it gives in two minutes. My kids love that.
Sonny00:23:36Oh, yeah, my kids, you my kids would rather stay in a fucking Motel six that had one of those than the Ritz. Of course, to be fair, I probably would, too. Yeah, I mean, that's an easy, very honest.
Mike00:23:49That's an easy choice. Yeah, I like the I like everything from the like the absolutely undercooked, like home fried. My potatoes like that's that's that's a real winner right there where you're just like, oh, yeah, you're it's like you're biting into an apple. You know, you're like mushy.
Sonny00:24:06Well, do you see? No, I always I think they're over like mushy, like they've been and they've like they're not.
Mike00:24:13I would prefer that to the to the undercooked one where it's just where they're just like it's or the the omelet. That's a good one where it's like the cheese omelet where it's like a but it's like but there's like 20 of them.
Sonny00:24:25There's like 20 of them in the heating tray and they're just like. It's just like cheese inside the egg. And it's like it's like it's like a slice.
Mike00:24:33It's like a slice. It's like a Kraft single. Oh, yeah.
Sonny00:24:35It's like a slice of Velveeta. Yeah, 100 percent.
Mike00:24:37It's like that's that's good that, you know, the the granola. And I mean, there's I like that they have healthy options as well.
Sonny00:24:45You know, if you want to get what you got, you got to treat yourself. You got to treat your body right at these places.
Mike00:24:50You know, here's the great innovation. Speaking of kids, that like is it's just it adds as a kid to like the experience of it, which is the. The sort of the big columns of breakfast cereal that, you know, that that are transparent. And you can and it's like you've got raisin bran, you've got cornflakes. And I mean, what does every kid go right to? They they they go right to the Froot Loops.
Vic00:25:14Of course. Of course.
Mike00:25:15And it's like but like I guess it's like a way of like enticing you to like eat the cereal. But it's always a terrible experience of like opening whatever whatever mechanism it is to open it. And like always. It spills out like then you need. And, you know, it's just like it's like a total mess.
Sonny00:25:33You're telling me you're telling me it's not ideal to go to the cereal trough for just poor cereal from the cereal trough.
Mike00:25:41It's just the whole the whole thing is just so sad. And yet, like, I mean, am I am I not going to eat the free breakfast at the hotel that I'm staying at?
Sonny00:25:52I would rather I you're just spitting in the face of God if you don't eat the free breakfast. You're just you're you are mocking. You are mocking creation if you don't eat the free breakfast. And this is this is again, this is one of these things that I have found I find most interesting and kind of baffling about. I mean, not baffling. It makes sense on an economic level. But like the the the worse your host. So like you have like the real bottom of the line shithole hotels where like they charge you extra for everything. Right.
Mike00:26:19Like, oh, it's yeah.
Sonny00:26:20Then you have like spirit airlines of then you have like the next level up where it's like, yeah, you get you get your free Wi-Fi. Yeah, you get your free continental break. You're like you're free. Breakfast in the morning. Oh, yeah. It's great. Free breakfast bar. And then and a lot of times those places at night will have like, yeah, we got like if you go up one. Yes, you go up like like one step.
Mike00:26:40Yes.
Sonny00:26:40Half a step. You get you get the like, yeah, we've got like like a happy happy hour. You come you come drink. You get some wine and some beer. We got we got Miller Lite and we got white and red and like and and and those are fun, too. Like I like I that is one of my. Favorite things to do is there's a that's a garden garden hotel we stay at when I when I have to visit my mother-in-law in Reno. Is is one of those places and it's like and it's interesting because it's like a lot of people who are clearly like I don't like traveling salesmen or whatever, but but not traveling salesmen. I don't know what like I like itinerant workers almost like guys who are going to like job sites. Totally 100 percent. But it's like, hey, come to the. Happy hour and have, you know, some some wine and beer and stuff. I just like to go and sit and people watch. It's it's fun. I like to I like to gawk. I like to go. Oh, yeah. I bet you're a good gawker.
Mike00:27:38I bet you're good.
Sonny00:27:39But the but then but then you go like the next level up and like you're once again paying for everything. It's like, oh, you want you want you want like Wi-Fi in your room. OK, that's we're going to charge you 10 bucks a night for that. Or like you want breakfast in the morning. OK, that's forty dollars. Like that's you know, it's it's it is it's really interesting.
Mike00:27:59It's what's interesting is the I agree the mid tier. You're kind of hitting you're hitting perfection. And it's a it's an it's an odd thing about the industry. The economics of it are just unusual because it's just it's hard to think of other industries or services where that's the case. Like there are certain it's certainly the case that you get to a point where you are overpaying at like the highest tier for all things. But but because you're in the highest tier. It's like it doesn't matter to you. But generally, the more you pay, like the better the quality is. But, you know, for instance, I remember when I first I think it was back in 2012 presidential election. And there was a point where I was in Ohio and like the the sorry, the Cleveland suburbs. And I stayed at a Hilton like at the the flagship brands like the Hilton or the Marriott, you know, not any of the other thing, the Conrad's or whatever. Actual Hilton hotels. And like those are a crapshoot. This one I stayed in in Cleveland was just everything about it was old and shitty. And like, you know, they had like a restaurant, but it was like like they're they're microwaving everything back there. You know, it's like the room felt grimy. And like you said, you have to pay for everything. And it was just it was like if I went to the Hampton Inn down the street, I'd pay I might pay less and I'd have a much more comfortable and relaxing and experience. And there's much more, I would say, the the consistency at that mid tier is much as much. It's just much more consistent.
Sonny00:29:42So I don't understand how hotels work. I'm sure somebody who is listening out there knows. I don't understand how hotels work, if they're all corporate owned or if they're like franchised. It because my understanding is that they're like a lot of them are franchises, right? Like families will own like a couple of hotels in town.
Mike00:30:02And you're basically getting a license to access their network there and the awards reward system and all that. But some are corporate owned. So it's you know, it's it's it's different. It's I guess it's a little like like a place like McDonald's and other things.
Sonny00:30:18There are some corporate stores and some franchises.
Mike00:30:20So anyway, but yes, I will be enjoying the breakfast bar. I will not be enjoying send me pictures beers in the morning for many reasons. But I will send you pictures of the breakfast bar. So and we'll we'll we'll discuss next week. We'll get we'll get deeper into this because you know what, Sonny? This is some good content. This is some good podcast content.
Sonny00:30:41We should do we should do a podcast. We should have a podcast where we just go to a different hotel every week and do like a hotel review hotel.
Mike00:30:48All right.
Sonny00:30:49We're at the we're at the Capitol Hilton and Anatoly Falls. And here's here's what? The situation is. So I tell you guys, I saw six hookers last night at the at the bar. Oh, man, that's funny.
Mike00:31:06All right. Well, let's move on. I think I think it's time to move on. Let's do you know. No. OK, let's let's table that. Let's table that discussion. Let's move on, though, to the box office and talk about this week's box office. The top two top three actually movies exactly the same in the exact same order as last week. Number one, the Super Mario Galaxy movie. Number two. Project Hail Mary. Number three, the drama. One, two, three. Once again, we are seeing. So I don't know how to read this. It looks like a like a 48 percent drop for Super Mario Galaxy. But is that is that is that warped because of the like weird weekend? No, it's it's just it's just almost a 50 percent drop for.
Sonny00:31:49Yeah, it's just it's just roughly a 50 percent drop. This this movie is not holding very well at all compared to the first one, which I assume is what you're getting at here. That's what I was. Yes, that's what I was.
Mike00:31:58Kind of wanted to.
Sonny00:31:59It's yeah, this movie is much softer than I thought it would be. I guess it really is terrible. Like judging by what you guys said about the film and what I've heard from everybody else, it is fucking dreadful. But, you know, it's not dropping like a rock is Project Hail Mary down just 24 percent.
Mike00:32:16No, it's amazing this week.
Sonny00:32:18And it's back in IMAX theaters this this weekend. I got a I got a I saw a message today that it's what was it's back in the IMAX 70 millimeter here in Dallas and like all the other.
Mike00:32:28I mean, what was it kicked out for?
Sonny00:32:31For Super Mario Galaxy.
Mike00:32:32Oh, really? OK, wow. OK, yeah. Well, that there's the story right there.
Sonny00:32:37I mean, it's it's it's it's holding it's holding very well. It will easily get to. I think I can't see a scenario which it doesn't get to at least 300 million. I think it's running like I think it's running four or five percent behind Oppenheimer, which got to three hundred thirty million. But like that, like. If this movie does three hundred thirty million domestic and probably another, you know, three fifty to four hundred worldwide, that's a huge hit. That's even though it's very expensive. It was like a two hundred million dollar movie. So it wasn't it wasn't cheap. But, you know, you see it on the screen. Absolutely. See it on the screen.
Mike00:33:15So, yeah, yeah, I will say that the amount I mean, you know, people, people, some people in my life, you know, sort of know that I do. I do the show and I see a lot of movies and stuff. But the amount of word of mouth, just conversation about Project Hail Mary, like greater sign, any discussion of the Super Mario Galaxy movie, you know, because I talk to a lot of parents and kids and stuff like like nobody's talking about the Super Mario movie in the way that it again, as we said last week, it was just it was inescapable. The first Super Mario movie and this one is just in one ear and out the other. And. And so I'm not surprised to see this.
Sonny00:34:01Yeah. But Project Hail Mary, big hit. The drama, the drama is holding OK.
Mike00:34:05Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For a 24.
Sonny00:34:07That'll probably get to forty five million forty forty five.
Mike00:34:13Do we want to say anything about Hoppers, which is at number five? It's it seems like a real dud, but maybe I'm maybe I know I think I think a hundred.
Sonny00:34:21I think a hundred and fifty seven million dollars for that movie domestically, you know, is it's about OK, it's about it's about what? Disney was probably hoping for. I mean, it's a it's you know, it's it's not an enormous, enormous hit, but it's but that that's it's OK. It's it's doing it's doing OK. And this is I like I have come to think of almost all of the animated original films outside of something like Super Mario Brothers as basically lost leaders for either a sequel. You know, five to 10 years down the line or for Disney Plus Disney Plus, because like this is you know, this happens. This happens with. A lot of them where you that's a good point, you come in and they do OK, and then they do pretty solid numbers on. I will say the thing I will be I will be most curious for. Is oh, God, what's it? What's the. Encanto Encanto if they if they're able to do an Encanto to if they can make an Encanto to I want to see what the numbers on that end up being like, because I think that would be an enormous, enormous hit to survive being like kind of a flop in theaters. And it came out of a weird covid inflected time. It was like it's hard to judge. Right, right. It'll be hard to judge one to the other. But like it was it is such an enormous hit on Disney Plus that I'd be curious. I'll be curious to see if a sequel performs.
Mike00:35:56Is are you is there is there? Is there any talk of that, of that actually happened?
Sonny00:36:01I think there is. I mean, there's I. No, well, there's no like nobody has announced an Encanto two or anything like that, but I guarantee you that we we need Lin-Manuel Miranda to write us six more songs for Encanto two doesn't doesn't really matter what the plot is. We just need the songs.
Mike00:36:20All right, well, that is that is all the time on box office. I guess we're going to talk about the movie that we watched this week, Daredevil, because remind me something. So there's a there's the show Daredevil, which I recall coming out on Netflix like a long time ago, at least, you know, starting. Apparently, it's got a new season out. It's like what the fourth season of the show, but it's now on Disney Plus. What's the what? Why is that? Why we're talking about the Ben Affleck movie?
Sonny00:36:52Yeah, Michael, thanks for paying attention to our text thread.
Mike00:36:57I'm just I. I'm still a little confused. I'm still confused about like so the show jumped from one platform to the other and it still go like it seems like the show was on Netflix like 10 years ago. Like it just doesn't seem like like we're people waiting around for another new season of the show. But but I don't know. It's also not for me. So weren't you?
Sonny00:37:19No, I am. All right. So here's here is the back story. I'll look at you drinking your Coors Light. I'm sorry. I didn't. I mean, to bore you. I told you. I know. So the the the Netflix Daredevil came out in 2015. There were several TV shows that Marvel was doing for Netflix. There was that the Punisher show. There was the one with what's her name from Breaking Bad.
Mike00:37:51Which one? Skylar.
Sonny00:37:54What's that?
Mike00:37:55Skylar.
Sonny00:37:56Now, the. It doesn't matter. And then there was a Luke Cage show. There was like a there was a power fish show anyway. But the but the only one of those that has really survived the the move from from Netflix to Disney Plus, because, of course, Disney Plus begins in 2019, 2020. Yeah, they Disney wants like we want to bring our Marvel shows over here, but there were they didn't really know what to do with the Daredevil stuff for a while. Eventually, they just brought back the same Daredevil guy. We're like, all right, let's do born again, which is a famous kind of comic book run for Daredevil.
Mike00:38:38Anyway, that this is a sequel show with the same characters with the same actors.
Sonny00:38:45Well, it's yeah, the the Daredevil born again. I think the first season was twenty twenty four. This new season is twenty twenty six. It doesn't matter.
Mike00:38:56OK, sorry, sorry.
Sonny00:38:57Yeah, no, no. This matters. We're just we're doing Daredevil 2003 because there's a new season of Daredevil. OK, all right.
Mike00:39:04Sorry for being sorry for being pedantic. All right. So why don't you give us a review then a big boy review of 2003's Daredevil?
Sonny00:39:16Daredevil 2003. Hey, remember Spider-Man that came out in 2002? This movie is like that, except a million times worse. Except one million times worse. So so it's it's really it is actually kind of interesting because you can see what you can see what 20th century Fox was going for in 2003 when they made this movie. Right. X-Men had come out in 2000 and was was a pretty big hit. People people like the X-Men. People people liked that X-Men movie. I want to say X2 came out 2002.
Vic00:39:55Yeah.
Sonny00:39:58There was also in 2002 Spider-Man. Spider-Man, of course, is an enormous, enormous hit, like huge hit unseen before. I think I want to say it was the first hundred million dollar weekend. I might be misremembering, but but Spider-Man is this huge, enormous hit. And what is Spider-Man? Right. Spider-Man's story about a young man who loses his male father figure and has superpowers when this happens. And dedicates his life to fighting crime and solving injustice after the fact. And this is, of course, essentially the story of Daredevil, both in the comic book and in in this movie. And it it really hits all of the it hits a lot of the same story beats or at least like not even story beats like idea beats. Right. Like there's a scene where Matt Murdock in this film. Is running across the rooftops, testing out his powers, which very much like a scene taken directly from the 2002 Spider-Man movie. You know, again, like his in Daredevil, his father is played by David Keith dies and he's in his arms. He's like, I couldn't protect you. I'm going to avenge you. And then eventually, of course, he does. And even even like some of the effects. Right. Like there's it when Daredevil gets his powers in this film, you know, he's a little kid, he's a teenager, he's running and radioactive waste gets in his eyes. And when it hits his eyes, like we go to the inside the body cam where we follow the changes to his bodily structure as as, you know, the the juices from this thing rip through his body and destroy his eyes, but heighten all the rest of his senses is literally again, there's a shot exactly like this. In Spider-Man, where like the spider bites Peter Parker and then the the like venom runs through his DNA and like rips his DNA apart and puts it back together in a different way. Like it's the same exact thing. So the the and then you, of course, have Bullseye and the Green Goblin, which are who are very different villains, kind of except Colin Farrell and Willem Dafoe play them in very similar ways. That's sort of like crazy. You bring. All right. So we got we got two text messages. We got two text messages about this movie that are that are in tension with each other. JBL Texas. And he was like, hey, make sure you remind people that this movie is terrible and does not have a plot that it's it's like he's the worst Marvel movie ever made. Worse than the Fantastic Four or Morbius or Craven or Madam Web. And then it fails despite having good characters and good leads. Right. It's just the script and the direction. And then we got another text from a friend, listener of the show, listener of the show. Do you want to read it?
Mike00:43:05Yeah. So I didn't ask if I could on the show. But just so I will. Yeah. But but the the the text was glad you guys are talking. 2003 Daredevil criminally underrated film. Colin Farrell, Joey Pants, Michael Duncan Clark. I think it's Michael Clark Duncan, but it's not there. John Favreau's first superhero movie. And this was not an ironic thing. This is I think this person has a genuine affection for this for this movie.
Sonny00:43:36So both of these text messages are true. Yes. So like here's the JBL is right that the movie does have no like it has it has it vaguely just it has irritable gestures at a plot. Right. Like the the overarching, you know, the problem with this movie is that it's not even about Matt Murdock trying to figure out who the king. Pin is so he can get revenge for his father. Right. Like he just kind of stumbles into that. Right. At the end. It's just like, oh, yeah, you killed my dad. Fuck you. I'm gonna kill you. Also, Daredevil murders a lot of people in this movie. It's extremely violent. He he's he's like he's murdering people all over the place, which I don't really find. That's that's fine by me. I like I'm fine with vigilante murder. But the but the but the funny part of it is that like there's a priest who's there who's kind of like, you really shouldn't be doing this. And then he does. He's like, ah, it's all right. You're my guy. You're my you're my guy. I can't stay mad at you. God will forgive you. Say your rosaries. So that that's funny in its own way. The but the the the real sin of this film. And I will say, look again, Colin Farrell is genuinely dementedly brilliant in this. He's great. I love I love the ridiculous things that he's doing. This is him. He's deep in his booze and cocaine. Yes. Phase of his career. And and I think he was doing a lot. A lot of drugs at this point in his career. He was he was on all sorts of things.
Mike00:45:02I mean, like, I would not be surprised if I would not have been surprised to learn that he actually carved the the bullseye into his forehead. Entirely possible. That's what he was going on.
Sonny00:45:16So entirely possible. I want to I'm just I'm just trying to see when did he go to rehab in December? In December 2005, he checked into rehab for recreational drugs. And painkillers. So, like, you know, if he's checking in in 2005, he's almost certainly high as shit in 2002, 2003 when they're when they're filming this. So anyway, or maybe not, maybe I'm slandering Colin Farrell, who, again, I'm just I'm praising his performance here. He's great. It's great. It seems like he was on a lot of drugs while he was making this movie. Jon Favreau. Great. Everywhere. I mean, I it's it's so funny to think of where Jon Favreau is now, where he is, like, is arguably the second or third most powerful person in the Disney kind of creative superstructure after Kevin Feige and right and like tied with Dave Filoni. I don't know precisely how Star Wars works in terms of who is in charge of what. But like he is he is an enormously powerful figure. And here he is as Foggy Nelson in the, you know, kind of throwaway Daredevil movie and Joey Pants. Joey Pants is great. And there's there's just very funny things like Ellen Pompeo is in one scene as as Karen Page, who's like a very important character in Daredevil. And like she's not even named in this. I don't think she's just like is there for for for like half a second anyway. But of course, you also have Jennifer Garner. And this is, I assume, where Ben Affleck and Jennifer Garner, you know, start.
Mike00:46:50So so so yeah, I believe the story is that they were because I I asked my wife about this, who actually like had that had. The details like I thought she was he was like, no, she said that they were not together during this film. They got together after this film, but he was still with J-Lo through this film. So I mean, like Ben Affleck is a stand up guy, so I'm sure he waited until after they were done filming this to to sort of to court Jennifer Garner, as it were.
Sonny00:47:20So meanwhile, Colin Farrell was just doing lines off of her. Anyway, the. But but yeah, the movie's plot, it's it's non-existent is one way to put it. Like there there are four different stories that are all kind of jammed together. One is one is Ben Affleck. Matt Murdock becomes Daredevil, right? One is Jennifer Garner's. Elektra wants revenge for her father's murder. Yes. One is one is the. Kingpins rise and fall. And then I don't know, there's there's a fourth one in there that involves bullseye somehow. I don't know.
Mike00:48:06But the well, he's he's he's got the he's got the assignment to kill Elektra, right?
Sonny00:48:10He's he's got he's just the villain who shows up. And the real sin of this movie is that it wastes so many different like interesting classic plot lines from from from the the series of books, specifically like the first big. Arc that Elektra has where she meets Murdoch and she is killed by bullseye. And like, you know, this is like a great classic daredevil story that is so that is like the only the only thing more egregious than this that I've seen in a major superhero motion picture. Well, there are two two examples. One is the death of Gwen Stacy in Amazing Spider-Man. Number two, the the just just an absolute. Like gut wrenching story that is tossed off in the last 30 minutes of that fucking movie. And then the other is every time they try to make Dark Phoenix, which just does not work. What is now tried to try to do Dark Phoenix like three times and it just they can't get it right. So there's that. Yeah, I don't know the whole thing. The whole thing is a mess and it has the most cursed music just of all time. Like it is. It is. I, you know, look, I, I was in college when this movie came out. I'll tell you a story about watching this in a theater in college in a second. But I was in college when this came out. So I was like in kind of a weird musical time where I was listening to like I was listening to like kind of like the indie college. Sure. You know, like I was I was the strokes and, you know, the and that's I wasn't listening to the mainstream radio.
Mike00:49:54Yeah.
Sonny00:49:54Right. Like I wasn't listening to DC 101. Then I was listening to. You know, the the other other stuff and and I'm like and a lot of like classic stuff and a lot of retro stuff. And also this is like right when Napster and the file sharing is out. So I'm like getting I'm like downloading like 30 year old Bruce Springsteen concerts all day and like tying up my T1 lines with like gigabyte after gigabyte of MP3s of old Bruce Springsteen concerts. So I like I wasn't listening to a lot of a lot of new metal, which is what this entire is that am I am I right? There is. Would you describe this as largely a new metal heavy soundtrack?
Mike00:50:32All right. This gets complicated because so this is not my term, but as a term that my friends and I have embraced and sort of began, I think probably is a little bit of an ironic appreciation, but I think it's now an unironic appreciation of new metal is this is a little past new metal. It's a little different. It's a little more mainstream than new. Metal, which which got but so so we call this butt rock. Well, butt rock. Right. So this is this is really, truly a this is the the apotheosis of butt rock.
Sonny00:51:10See, I always thought of butt rock as more like creed or.
Mike00:51:15Yeah. And who's on the soundtrack? We have this creed on the soundtrack. No, but we have fuel. We have Nickelback. We have Evanescence. We have Hoobastank. OK, this is live. Saliva. Saliva. These this is this is butt rock. This is if if if do not even get me started. OK, Chevelle is actually like a little.
Sonny00:51:37Oh, I'm sorry. I mean, no, no, no, no, no.
Mike00:51:40It's not offensive. It's just like finger 11. Finger 11. Yes. But, you know, there's also interesting. There's like also there's little bits of like electronic and hip hop. Right. There's like mobis on here.
Sonny00:51:51There's one. There's one.
Mike00:51:52Yeah. So but OK, so there's also.
Sonny00:51:57There's also a House of Pain song at some point, which is not on that, which is not on the soundtrack, I don't think.
Mike00:52:03But the moment that the moment that Evanescence, the the song My Immortal, like begins in this movie, I was like. Wait, is this a joke? Like it's like it looks it looks like a joke. And yet I was like suddenly transported back to 2003 is like, oh, no, we thought this was fucking awesome at the time.
Sonny00:52:26Look, I will defend. Bring me to life. The Evanescence song, you know.
Mike00:52:31Oh, that's the one. That's the one I'm bringing me to life. Yeah, yeah.
Sonny00:52:33That song's a banger. It is a banger. Wake me. Wake me up. Wake me up inside. Like but even but even that musical cue, it's like they pick the worst parts of the song. It's not. It's like it's like the guy rapping like, fuck you, man. I don't. You are the worst. Shut up. Let the chick sing. Let the lady sing. She's better than you. Her name is Amy Lee. And every time every time. Like. Matt Murdock. Again, Matt Murdock, lawyer, lawyer, skilled martial artist in full control of his senses. He's turning on this like screaming rap metal. He's like, oh, it's just like, how wouldn't this fuck up your ears, man? Aren't you?
Mike00:53:14There's so many moments where he's grabbing his ears because the sound is too loud.
Sonny00:53:18It's like, oh, I'm in a subway. I can't be here. Oh, let me turn on my my drowning pool. I got to turn on my. Anyway, I don't know.
Mike00:53:27Oh, yeah, I know.
Sonny00:53:29It's every every musical cue. I was like, oh, my God, this is the worst period of music in my lifetime. I think I like genuinely think it is the worst period of mainstream rock in my lifetime. And I don't think anything else is particularly close. And like, you know, people always are like, oh, you know, the the music that you were listening. I guess I guess this is slightly after my like peak years of new music. Right. Like so your peak years of new music are typically like what, 14 to 20. Yeah. And I'm like, I'm I'm like, oh, I'm 21 when this movie. Actually, no, I'm 20 when this movie comes out, because, again, I have a funny story. But the but the. Actually, when did. Yeah, February 14th, 2003. So I'm 20. And like the the music is just just dog shit from start to finish. It's amazing. It's like every once in a while. Again, like I heard that Moby track. I was like, oh, this is interestingly different, at least from everything else that I'm hearing. In this film. Yeah. So, yeah. Yeah.
Mike00:54:30Well, I hope I hope nobody bought stock in Hoobastank, you know, because this was this was the peak for for for Hoobastank, I think.
Sonny00:54:41I'm surprised. Like, well, I like even Incubus is a step up from this. Like an Incubus track on this album would have like increased. It would have gone 100 percent. One hundred percent point on the 10 point scale.
Mike00:54:53So. All right. So my thoughts watching this movie, which like I have no memory. I know I saw it when it came up, but I just have no memory of it. Like it was. So I was basically watching it. New. It was it was fresh. It was just like, you know, clearly my brain had like decided, nope, you don't need to remember this one.
?00:55:14We're hitting it.
Sonny00:55:15We're hitting the dump button. Exactly. One hundred percent.
Mike00:55:18Just shove that out of the out of that left ear there. And like I maybe this is a function of there being no plot. I was. So bored watching this movie. I was like looking at my watch like, can this be over yet? It was for all of the.
Sonny00:55:36It's not long. It's only a hundred and four minutes.
Mike00:55:39It's very quick. But like it was the longest, you know, a hundred and one hundred and three minutes long. Longest hundred three minute movie I've seen in a while. I just it. It has everything. Everything wrong about these. Kind of movies. So soon after Spider-Man got like basically everything right. It's it just it just it quite it just pales in comparison. And then when you put it up against like like it's interesting seeing Jon Favreau all immediately makes you go, oh, well, like he's happy, you know, like in five years, like he's going to be in so much of a much better movie and it's going to kick off this like great run for these. Marvel movies and then Daredevil just sits in between all of that. And it's like it feels pointless. It's it it doesn't look good. I don't think it and it's there and the whole like the whole Michael Clarke Duncan Kingpin stuff like it. I just he didn't do it for me in this.
Sonny00:56:49Like it's it's is he he's actually he's actually a very good he's a very good comic accurate Kingpin in this. In the sense that he is like imposingly large and also like live like he's not. He's not.
Mike00:57:05No. OK.
Sonny00:57:05You know, he moves. He moves well. And there's some movie magic there.
Mike00:57:10Like he just he just it just the whole maybe this again a problem with the plot. Like he felt superfluous. Like just have. Oh, totally. Just have Bullseye be the bad guy. Like, why are we? Why do we have these two bad guys? Like, what are we doing here?
Sonny00:57:22A better movie has Bullseye and Kingpin kind of competing. Against each other for. Like behind the scenes to take over, take over the crime, you know, take over all of the crime in the city whenever Daredevil gets rid of the guy who killed his dad. Like that would be that there's that is a better version of this movie. There's there's like a there's there's a version of this movie because, again, these movies are only as good as their villains. And this is the one thing Daredevil has going for it is that it has it has one very good villain. In in in in Bullseye. But the problem the problem with the kingpin is that he looks right, but he the characterization is just all wrong. Like the kingpin is supposed to be the guy who was like working behind the scenes and like pulling everything together. And all we get is like one shot of him at a gallow with his lawyer.
Mike00:58:19Right. You know, by the by the way, I do like seeing that actor's name is who plays the. Who plays the the Electra's dad. Oh, yeah, I like Eric. Hold on. Oh, Eric Avari. Yeah. Love him. Love that guy. He was in The Mummy and he was in he was in Mr. Deeds, the Adam Sandler movie. And so this was this was a good time for him. This is definitely a good time for him. I just I really disliked it. This like watching this movie all over again. Ben Affleck just. Like I just this felt like a waste of him. He's not good in it. And he like the dialogue is like it just sounds so wooden coming coming out of him.
Sonny00:59:11Somebody somebody once joked. I forget who said this, but somebody once joked that Ben Affleck is the only guy who wins Oscars so he can make superhero movies. Like most most people, you know, they make the they make the big money movies and then they do like the one. Art projects that are their real love and passion. And for a Ben Affleck, it's like I want to be a fucking superhero. I'm going to be daredevil.
Mike00:59:35I'll be daredevil.
Sonny00:59:37Fine. I'll win. I'll win best screenwriting. Fine. I'll make you your Argo. Just let me be a superhero.
Mike00:59:45All right. Two questions. One has Jennifer Garner ever looked better?
Sonny00:59:53I'm going to be honest. Yes. She looks fine. I actually don't like her costume in this. That's an I don't like her costume in this. I don't think she looks good in it. I don't think she like she fits in it wrong. I'm sorry.
Mike01:00:07That's OK. That's fair. But but just in terms of like, I just think I think this is like peak for better in alias. I guess. Well, alias is around this time. She's making alias at this time, right?
Sonny01:00:19OK, I'm just saying that, like, she she looks better on that show. Oh, I see. I see what you're saying.
Mike01:00:24OK, fair.
Sonny01:00:24You know, I like I think I think, again, one of the problems with this film is that like her Electra, aside from the awesome training montage set to Evanescence, is just totally, totally useless in this movie. She like she she's it's just a wasted. It's just a wasted character. It's a wasted character.
Mike01:00:43Why did they why did they make a sequel with with her or a spinoff or whatever?
Sonny01:00:48Like Electra, they made they made a whole Electra movie.
Mike01:00:52I know it's like it was it was terrible. But this one was terrible. Like this one didn't didn't have great reviews.
Sonny01:00:57So like, yeah, but it made it made a hundred million dollars worldwide. Back when that meant something like it's not a, you know, it's it wasn't it wasn't a flop precisely. And they and, you know, and they were trying. I think the Electra movie was cheaper, but it was it was also just terrible.
Mike01:01:15Yeah, I definitely don't remember that. I might not have even seen it.
Sonny01:01:18It was real bad. Oh, yeah, I forgot. Kevin Smith is in this.
Mike01:01:21There's also like there are funny.
Sonny01:01:23There are very funny things in this that only are funny if you know. No comic book stuff like the fighters who all took dives are all named after comic book writers like there's there's a character named Kasada, who's like a who's Joe Kasada, who is like who would end up running Marvel a few years later.
Mike01:01:43You know, and like it's hilarious.
Sonny01:01:46I again, it just is a it's a bad it's a bad movie, but it is like kind of interesting.
Mike01:01:52It's a bad movie, but it definitely feels like everybody making it feels like they're making the. Like the movie just top Spider-Man like like everybody ever. It feels like they think they're making a good movie.
Sonny01:02:05Is that is that I mean, I mean, well, I think you have to always think that, you know, OK,
Mike01:02:10I don't know.
Sonny01:02:10Like it just like I feel like I'm sure Halle Berry thought Catwoman was going to be an enormous hit. But the but the you can tell that you can it's one of these movies that has this kind of forced flashback. It like starts in the middle of in a it starts in. In media res for no real reason, like it doesn't doesn't pay off very well. And you can tell that there it went through testing and they were like, we got to we got to do something early on to keep people's attention. But like, it's not like it starts with a fight scene. It's just Matt Murdock bleeding and he falls into a church. Right. They're like, oh, how did he get here to this bleeding?
Mike01:02:47I really need to see how he started back in time.
Sonny01:02:51Yeah, so we're going to flashback. Apparently, there's a director's cut that has like 30 extra minutes with Coolio.
Mike01:02:57Coolio?
Sonny01:02:58Yeah, so I there's a director's cut. Let's see. Subplot involving Coolio. Coolio as Dante Jackson. I don't know. There's like a whole there is there is very obviously just this a series of subplots. Also, can we just I want to just here's I almost forgot about this. I almost forgot. Just a very basic problem that anybody who has watched seven minutes of Law and Order will understand what is wrong. The movie. First time we see Matt Murdock doing his job. He and Foggy Nelson are. Prosecutors. They're they're prosecutors.
Mike01:03:37They are a great point.
Sonny01:03:39They are prosecuting a guy who is accused of rape and like did it. And then like Daredevil goes and beats the shit out of goes and murders. This guy goes and fucks and fucking kills him. And then because he gets all right, because because he because he gets off of the.
Mike01:03:52But they're supposed to be pro bono.
Sonny01:03:54But they're pro bono defense attorneys. They're defense. Attorneys. But in this opening scene, they're like, we're going to we're going to we're going to bring this guy. I thought I was like, well, maybe it's a maybe it's a civil trial. Is that what I don't understand what's happening? But they are just straight up prosecutors. And then like nobody ever really mentions this again because they immediately go back to being like, we got to get clients. We got to get defense clients who can pay for our services. It's like, OK, it's not.
Mike01:04:20It's the nobody.
Sonny01:04:22I just don't understand how nobody at any point was like, wait, this is this is not how it works. All right. It's not it's not how it works.
Mike01:04:31That's not how any of this works. All right. Well, any other any other final thoughts on. Oh, I did mention this earlier. Incredibly violent. Like, yeah, like the violence like shocked me. I was like, whoa, like that's I guess like seeing so much of the MCU and it's which the MCU gets like it really kind of softens the edges of that stuff.
Sonny01:04:55Again, he's just murdering people. Yeah, like it's it's not and it's not even like like in the Tim Burton Batman. Batman's murdering a lot of people. He's he's like blowing goons up with his with the bombs that come out of his car and the excess chemicals. And he's he's like he's just he's fucking killing people to say nothing of, you know, Zack Snyder's Batman. But the but in this movie, like Daredevil is just like straight up like he he like the guy we were just talking about, he knocks onto a train track and like. Taunts him as he gets run over by a train.
Mike01:05:30Yes.
Sonny01:05:30And it's like, oh, my God, that is not what Daredevil would do. I don't think in in certainly not in the comic books. And I, you know, but the anyway, the whole thing is ridiculous. All right. Well, that like throws dare. He throws bullseye out of the church. Yeah. The priest's like, yeah, get his ass. Fuck. Fuck that guy.
Mike01:05:52Yeah. Anyway. All right. Any other thoughts? No. No. All right. Well, that is all. That is all the time we are going to give to this episode. Join us over at Sub-Beacon dot com. Tell your friends and family. Leave a comment. We'll talk to you next time.
Sonny01:06:12So I saw this movie in a theater. I saw it in college. I can tell you the theater I went to. It was like the big regal that was in Charlottesville, like the big one, not the one in the downtown mall, but there's like.
Mike01:06:26Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Sonny01:06:29The so we went like me and several of my fraternity brothers were like, well, let's go see the new Daredevil. Like, all right, let's go see the new Daredevil. And they were they were like, we should bring drinks. And remember, this is first of all, I was 20. But also this was this was before you could just buy drinks in movie theaters. Right, right, right. Dark ages. You have to get popcorn and goobers.
Mike01:06:52So were you sneaking it in in like plastic water bottles or.
Sonny01:06:55Well, Mike, let me tell you what I did. When they said we should bring alcohol, I said, yes, that's a great idea. And so what I did was I went and I grabbed a fifth of Jim Beam. And I think I have a jacket pocket and I walked right into the theater with it. And because it was like February, so it was cold. I could just I could just hide it in my jacket. And this was we were in a theater that was more or less empty. There were like, I don't know, there were probably four or five other people in the huge auditorium. So it was it was mostly just us. And we ordered we we did we we ordered sodas. We went and we bought our sodas and we came back to our to our seats. We didn't fill them up all the way, you know. But as soon as I opened my fifth of Jim Beam, the odor of bourbon dominated the entire theater. Like it was like, I'm sure it smelled. It smelled like we were inside a distillery for the rest of this. I can only imagine what the rest of the people in the theater were thinking. When that happened, because I didn't I didn't I hadn't really thought about it. I didn't I just was just like, ah, I'm just going to open this bottle of liquor here in in it. And it was it was a new bottle of liquor. It was not like it when I had opened it just fumes everywhere. And I and I like I've I as I was pouring it, I was like, boy, I could probably go to jail. This is a thing that I could go to jail because I'm getting drunk watching Daredevil at two in the afternoon. On a Saturday or whatever, whatever, whatever we were watching it.
Mike01:08:31I mean, you're in a college town like I'm sure it's fine.
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