#316. 'The Naked Gun' (Theaters)
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The main event is the new Naked Gun reboot starring Liam Neeson, which Sonny reviews as very funny but ultimately a bit slight: he admires its old-school Zucker/Abrams/Zucker joke-density (a gag every few seconds, plus one truly great runner about Neeson's character shame-eating chili dogs) but says it rarely goes the extra "two layers deeper" that separates the classics from merely-okay comedy, and that it hasn't lingered with him outside a couple of standout bits like the chili-dog sequence and the murderous, resurrected snowman threesome gag. JVL, a bigger fan of director Akiva Schaffer's Lonely Island sensibility, praises the film's escalating absurdity, its dense background gags and Easter eggs (an NPR-sponsored fake UFC match gets a huge laugh), and singles out Danny Huston's villain and Pamela Anderson's underrated comic performance; Mike loved it even more, framing it as a spiritual heir to Police Squad! and the Airplane!-style comedies he grew up quoting with friends, and the three debate whether that kind of line-trading, communal-rewatch comedy culture has simply died out with younger audiences (Mike's son Flash, it turns out, has to drag his own friends into movies like Tropic Thunder rather than the other way around). Before any of that, the episode opens with its usual long banter stretch: JVL's saga of a broken condo washer/dryer that supposedly required ripping out the hot water heater until a repairman fixed it for the cost of a wire nut, a related digression into planned obsolescence in smart appliances (with Sonny's sub-zero fridge and Mike's temperamental freezer), JVL's HOA forcing an eighteen-window replacement, Sonny's saga of hunting for a copy of Pynchon's Vineland at a reorganized Barnes & Noble, and dueling stories about both JVL's and Mike's kids becoming suddenly obsessed with Rummy (and Sonny's family with Rummikub) as a new household pastime. Box office talk covers the surprise horror hit Weapons (Zach Cregger's follow-up to Barbarian) trouncing the field, Freakier Friday's solid opening, and Fantastic Four's soft legs, with Sonny riffing on how cheaply horror franchises can print money compared to bloated blockbusters. They close by noting Paul Walter Hauser's underused role and cracking that the film's environmentalist-villain plot is essentially lifted wholesale from Kingsman.
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Sonny00:00:00I think someone murdered my brother Please take a chair. Thank you
Guest00:00:08I'll find them. This is what I do. Says you served 20 years for man's laughter You mean manslaughter? Must have been quite the joke They're going to shut down police squad if you do not solve this case Do this by the book. Show a little respect! Why? Who's gonna arrest me? Are there cops? Yes. Is he serious? Is he serious? He's no
Mike00:00:41Welcome to the sub beacon podcast i'm your co-host mike warren joining me as always are my two co-hosts who have already done 20 years for man's laughter jonathan v last and sunny bunch join us over at subbeacon.com uh get new episodes every friday join the conversation in the comments you can only do it if you're a patron and a member at subbeacon.com we're going to be talking about the naked gun later on in the show but first how's everybody doing jvl what's going on
JVL00:01:11so i got a a story for you guys that i'm going to try to abridge all the way down to the funniest part so we don't get bogged down in the details um so we're at the beach shortly after arriving at the beach the washing machine breaks it stops completely it's like half full of water uh in i go to i just like okay this this washing machine is like 20 years old at least it was when we you know here when we bought the place uh i just i'm gonna solve this problem by throwing money at it i go over to lowe's i have the dimensions of the washing machine i know that it's a very small space very tight i order uh same size machines uh the gentleman i say i'm gonna have to get the water out of it somehow and he says well you could just get a tube a tube of uh you know plastic too and you use your mouth side and i was like okay sir sir can we assume that i do not want to have my mouth on like dirty wash water like can you just sell me a pump so he sells me a pump anyway everything's great uh the lowe's guys come to deliver the uh the washer and dryer which which are only costing me fifteen hundred dollars hundred dollars total and uh they inform me the question question did you have to
Sonny00:02:32get a washer and dryer is it like a combo thing no but i figured i mean they're right
JVL00:02:36next to each other in this space and uh and it it's like an exterior room it's enclosed anyway unimportant unimportant okay um the delivery guys say sorry impossible to put these in here without removing your hot water heater which is also in this small space uh and uh we're gonna get out of here unless you want us to just leave the washer and dryer i say no i refuse delivery i then go on a quest to find out could it possibly true be true that the only way to replace the washer and dryer is to remove the hot water heater because that sounds insane this uh this quest involves a lot of things but one of them is calling the appliance place which services most of the uh rental companies on the island and i fear they surely have done these installs at my condo complex they would know and they tell me that uh oh you what you really need is you need the speed queen you can get the speed queens in there we have one of those left in stock uh the speed queen washer and dryer will come to their 3700. so i'm now i'm going from like my washer has broken this is a problem to 1500 to 3700 i'm about to lose my damn mind the the hoa then confirms to me the next day oh yes actually you do have to you can't fit anything in there without pulling the hot water heater that's why most people when they replace their hot water heaters replace those machines when did i replace my hot water here last year this would i'm like adam sandler the wedding singer this would have been useful information last year so finally finally no wait wait wait mike because i do not want this i don't want the story to be long please i want this to be fast i finally call an appliance repair guy thinking well i'll see if there's a way to band-aid this thing this uh this guy comes over he's like 24 years old he looks at the thing he says yeah i know what the problem is i say okay how bad is it gonna be he's like oh dude i'm gonna fix this in five minutes all i need is like a wire nut i said what yeah yeah that's all it is so he proceeds to tell me as he's staying in the space and says clearly yeah the only way to do this to replace these is going to be to uh pull out the hot water heater he says don't do that these machines are fully mechanical there's like no circuitry in them what whatsoever you can keep these running basically he said the dryer will run nothing in the dryer that can break that can't be fixed for like four dollars and the washing machine eventually the drive shaft will break and at that point replacing the drive shaft as you might as well just like replace the whole thing is a bit otherwise don't touch anything these things are gold they will run for forever electronics are your enemy yes and so the this this dude fixed everybody else is like fifteen hundred dollars please thirty seven hundred dollars please this guy was like yeah I just need a a wire nut I can get this thing going for you God there you go real men of genius American hero so if this is I mean this is awesome
Sonny00:06:16obviously this is this is like this is but and it dovetails with so many other things about home ownership which is that it does it feels it feels like at any given moment I'm being scammed yes any given moment I'm being scammed and it's not I'm not always 100 sure what the scam is but I know there's a scam I know somebody is like you own a home so you have money and you want your home to work you're not gonna leave your home you're gonna you're gonna pay me money to to to make it a better um thing and like sometimes sometimes there is no scam sometimes you are just like when I had to remove my water heater your hot water
JVL00:06:55I thought about you and the hot water heater because and so when you were when you were
Sonny00:06:59discussing so wait I I don't I I this is the part I didn't quite understand about the story why did they say you have to remove the hot water heater yeah to to get the the washing machine in it's not
JVL00:07:11a question of space obviously yes they're like no no it's a question of space so the small utility room that these are in everything is jammed in there in such a way that the hot water heater kind of makes it so you can't get anything wider than 25 inches through that door
Sonny00:07:31that's that's why okay uh all right but then so then this guy like he's like all right you have a there's a mechanical part that's broken and I can fix this yeah does it work now yes
JVL00:07:43it works fine yes and he says it will continue to work fine for forever yeah and that the things that will break he says are mechanical switches which again cost five dollars to replace and he said whenever one of the mechanical switches fails just call me or anybody else who works on appliances and they'll fix them in five minutes the only thing that that is not fixable really is the drive shaft and you know that'll just go when it goes but you could get another 20 years out of this right so you did so you didn't
Sonny00:08:15call a repairman first you were just like I'm going straight to replacing well I just thought
JVL00:08:19like these things are forever you're old right I mean again these things are forever old and I just figured oh planned obsolescence these things happen okay no problem you know they're a little on the small side and interior space be nice to have like an extra cubic foot
Mike00:08:33of wash capacity but anyway the answer was repair these things for forever this is this is something that I'm thinking about quite a lot because we are preparing to get a new refrigerator you I think I've talked about on the show oh you're fixing of your refrigerator I've done which I have done successfully to extend the life of the refrigerator but we had an issue um we have had a recurring issue which has been odd because it's there's there's no predictability to it but essentially the freezer was not the the uh defrost mode was not cutting in um all the time sometimes it is it it does sometimes it doesn't and when that happens it would freeze over and then it would stop uh it would stop cooling the refrigerator and everything was a disaster um and finally I called a repairman after doing all the things that I could do to check to see if I could fix it I called a repairman and the repairman basically said there's three possibilities two of them are mechanical and one of them has to do with the computer and obviously that's the computer one's the most expensive thanks and he said I'm sorry to you it's the computer it's basically the the the motherboard in here is not consistently telling
JVL00:10:01the freezer to defrost so uh why is it that electronics on home appliances are so unreliable like your iPhone will work for forever the M the M3 or the a16 chip in your iPhone is never up but they can't the the chip that they use for your your LG front-loading washing machine those things go belly up after 14 months all the time why is that that makes no sense to me it's I mean
Mike00:10:29it could be planned obsolescence right it's like uh we gotta I mean I assume I assume they're using
Sonny00:10:34cheaper parts I assume it's not like it's not like the Apple chip which is like designed to do that thing like the dryer is designed to do something else but I also I also imagine it's like I bet I bet there's actually a lot of wear and tear on these things just in terms of temperature and vibration like okay maybe there's there's probably there's probably but no I I think it drives me look I I have gotten I I I wish I could you know look I'm I I wish I could do the old man thing and just have like the the mechanical dryer and washer that will last forever instead of the the thing that wants to connect to my wi-fi so I can I can tell my phone to make it dry for five minutes more yeah which
JVL00:11:17is what I think now I feel like a sucker I shouldn't have bought I should have bought mechanical Whirlpools instead of like the fancy LGs don't know if you can find many of those anymore yeah I assume you just can't get those you can you can they had them at uh at Lowe's mechanical switches
Mike00:11:35well but the but I will say that the the rule of thumb that repairmen say as I've I've looked into this for refrigerators is don't get the LG or the Samsung with all the doohickeys on the refrigerator because I read some forum where multiple repairmen said 95 of what we're called out to do um is to fix that stuff which is all you know and and and and that's that's where the costs go up that's that's what's expensive that's how they get you yeah this wasn't happening I didn't mean to listen to the Maytag guys no no this is I appliance
Sonny00:12:15talk is one of the best appliance talk is one of the best sub beacon talks uh I no this is this goes the the refrigerator that we moved into the to my my house with the like professional grade sub-zero fridge that had been installed in this house and like it's it's like a 20 000 fridge and when this thing goes belly up I don't know precisely what I'm gonna do because like it's a custom it's like a custom build out like I'm not there maybe just keep replacing the parts on it well and that's but that's the thing is that it's not it doesn't have all the like fancy there's there's no like programming involved with this thing so just keep replacing the parts it has it has a knob that goes from like one to ten you want one cold or ten cold and like that that's all I need and I will just I like what will end up happening is I will end up just like replacing the motor and that thing for two thousand dollars one day instead of like buying a refrigerator that's a bargain yeah anyway
JVL00:13:15it's a good thing that we're able to do this because uh the HOA is making me replace all of the windows in our condo and uh these windows have to be replaced using the unobtainium glass that is now required by North Carolina code for anything that is you know facing the ocean hurricane adjacent and uh would you gentlemen care I'm not gonna say the number I will simply hold some fingers up would you gentlemen care to make a guess as to the the price of replacing the windows
Sonny00:13:51in my condo are we going all of the windows or per window all of the windows and is it all of
Mike00:13:59the windows is is every window in the condo need to be replaced every window in the condo and so
JVL00:14:04that is one two three four five six seven eight nine windows
Sonny00:14:14is it is it five no Sonny would you like to make your guess nine windows I would guess
JVL00:14:21it's at least eighteen I was I was off yeah I was way off so I'm glad I didn't spend the 3700 on a speed queen would it would it have really made a difference anyway that's all that's all
Sonny00:14:44I've got boys how are you Sonny what's going on I've had I've had the same experience at Barnes and Noble the last three times I've gone in there and I want to I want to I want to I want to relay this to you and see if you have had the same sort of experience I don't do you guys ever go to Barnes and Noble anymore not as much as I like not as much all the time I
JVL00:15:04love it so much I love Barnes and Noble there's a Barnes and Noble near I just gotta give this to you so near where flash plays baseball there's a Barnes and Noble that I like to go to with little e uh or ng money and they have it set up I've never seen a Barnes and Noble it's basically set up like a maze where you could just wander it's some of the best store design I've ever seen
Sonny00:15:26if you just get lost in it in the most delightful way yeah I love Barnes and Noble I love everything that they have done at Barnes and Noble to turn it around I like how they've localized the stores to make them more appealing I don't even mind the like toy store aspect of it because there is kind of a like I love it we we have a lot of we got a lot of toys now and like I just told the kids you're not buying any I tell the kids you're not buying here for boys at Barnes and Noble you're for books you're here to learn not play okay what about
JVL00:15:57what about writing instruments because they also have really nice paper really nice pens
Sonny00:16:02if my kids want to buy like a nice notebook uh or something to to draw or to journal in I am usually okay with that as well because that's that's that's that's creativity adjacent there we go it's neat that's that's neither here nor there I I I say this I want to preface all this by saying I actually really like what Barnes and Noble has done I think they've done a I think they've done a fantastic job turning that chain around in a way that works both for the customer and the store itself I mean they've they've really they really crack the code on like big chain bookstores and it's so much and like sometimes you just want to go and browse sometimes you want to go like you want to want I want to wander through the fiction section and see if there's a book that looks interesting or if there's a book by an author that I want to read or you go and you browse the like the tables at the front you're like I want to oh let's see what the new what the new releases are let's see what's on the buy one get one fifty percent sale you know I there's there's all sorts of stuff here I have had a very frustrating thing happen the last three times I've been in a Barnes and Noble though in each of these circumstances I had a specific book that I wanted to buy I had a I had a book I wanted to get and I knew and it and according to the website it was in stock and I and like I know how alphabetization works I can go and find the alpha by author I don't need help doing that and I have gone to the store and I have gone to either the fiction section or the film and tv section or whatever non-fiction non-fiction is a little trickier because they break that down in weird ways but like but like in all three circumstances I've known exactly where I needed to go what section of the store the book was in and I went there and I looked and I looked on my phone and it said it's in stock and I look on the shelf where it's supposed to be again alpha by author and it's not there and it's not there and when that happens there are two two things there are three things that could have happened one the website could be wrong could actually be out of stock this has never been the case Barnes and Noble's logistics have been very good on this front the second option is that it's in the back sometimes it's in the back right they sometimes sometimes the book you want is sold out up front but there are copies in a box in the back right this has also not been what has happened the last three times I've walked into Barnes and Noble here is what has happened I've gone to the section I've looked in the section I've gone to where the name is it's not there and so I go to a helper because you always look for the helpers when you're in a when you're in a when you're in a scary situation you look for a helper and the helpers will help you and I go to the helper and I say hi I'm for the most recent one uh when I was in Reno I wanted to get a copy of Thomas Thomas Pynchon's Vineland because that is what the new Paul Thomas Anderson movie is kind of based on not really but like it's an influence there I wanted to get a copy of Vineland and I go and I look in the Pynchon section of the the fiction shelves and there are several Thomas Pynchon books but not the one that the store says is is is on hand so I go to the helper and I say helper help me and he says I would love to help you because I'm a helper and the helper says yeah we have it let's go find it and so he walks to the Thomas Pynchon section and he looks he's like oh it's not here and I was like I know I've I'm not I'm not dumb I'm yeah but in fairness most people are dumb most people aren't no this is true who isn't exactly this is this is this is I I should I again he's a helper he's helping people and this is probably the most effective way to help people to be like all right so the have you tried plugging in the computer ma'am the alphabet the alphabet goes like l-m-n-o-p here's the p all right so he's like oh that's weird I'm like yeah it is weird he's like okay well all right let's go look at the end caps so we go and look on the end caps and this is what has happened the last two to the two times before this is that the book I have been looking for was moved to like a display table and there are like five copies there they've taken them off the shelf and they put them on a display table the problem with the display table which is great again I like wandering through and browsing the problem with the display table is that it is not organized right in any real way I mean it's just like here's a bunch of books it's curated it's curated but it's not organized and there's no there's no like it's not like you go to the Thomas Pynchon shelf and it says we're we're at this table highlighting you know and so the guy like kind of looks around a little bit he's like no I don't see it over here hold on let me go let me go ask somebody so the helper goes and asks another helper and the second helper says oh yeah hold on I'm pretty sure I know where that is and they pull out some computer they do some magical computer things with their helper box and he uh she actually she says yep it's right over there and points to the new release fiction shelf and the guy's like yeah it's on the new release here it is and I and I looked at him and I said this book is at least 40 years old this book is this book is not new fiction this book is maybe it's 35 years old like it's it's it's not a new book and he said no it did not come out this century it's just like I just and so this is and this is look again it's a small complaint because we ended we found the thing it really wasn't that much hassle and it's a nice little fun story to tell but I if I have one complaint if I have one complaint about modern Barnes and Noble it's that they've really emphasized these end tables in a for specific shopping purposes better for browsing perhaps and that is I would assume what most of their most of their floor space is is dedicated to is browsers right because if I know like if I'm most people most people smart people will just go to the website and put in the book and be like I'll pick it up I'll put I'm gonna order it here I'll come pick it up if they think to look ahead and look it up not me I like to go and actually just do it myself because I would but like I I so I I understand from the business perspective why this is all done it makes sense it's just very frustrating for me the the normie consumer who wants a specific thing and just wants to go get it myself but I don't really want I don't want to have to bother the helper the helper's there to help I appreciate that I don't want to bother I want to be able to just do it myself
Mike00:23:07but you now know you you have some more places to go before you go to the helper like you've been through this enough to now know I gotta check new releases I gotta check the the end
Sonny00:23:23caps and the and the I have I have though again they're they're also I wouldn't describe them as haphazardly organized but they're not organized in a way that makes searching them easy or
Mike00:23:34efficient it's just like it's an English garden not a French garden sure yeah I don't know what that means but yeah it's not it's it's it's you know organically uh uh oh yeah yeah okay yeah yeah Michael how are you buddy uh fine I uh I have started a mania in my house um and here's the thing about kids is you never know what things they will glom on to that you introduce them to and what things what things they will that you will just be convinced they will love and they have absolutely zero interest in um this is uh happily a story uh where they've my kids my my two older kids have um become mildly obsessed and it was just kind of an impulsive hey the kids are kind of antsy what are we going to do after dinner kind of thing um and I said uh hey do you guys want to learn a new card game not new for for the world but new for them and uh they were sort of like yeah I don't know well you know all that stuff I said let's just try it I used to play this with my grandmother um let's play Rummy and uh so funny
JVL00:24:53we just did this in my house you did this in your house this week this same thing the kids are obsessed with it yep my kids are too wow look at that um now money wants to play Rummy
Mike00:25:04till midnight every night totally same with my kids um so but okay Rummy is like Rummy is like one of these games like poker like it's not a game it is uh a kind of a class of games and there are many different ways to play it many different rules um you know there's Gin Rummy there's uh kind of basic Rummy what's the difference between Jim Gin Rummy and because
Sonny00:25:29I I the version of Rummy I've always played was always called Gin Rummy yeah but I don't
JVL00:25:35know what I mean you hold all of the cards and go out at once at the very end correct whereas in like 500 Rummy which is where I always say you are playing your points
Mike00:25:45as you get them gotcha so Gin Rummy is much harder correct um and uh but there I mean there I mean there's any kind of number of variations you can do so so the the way it's which is interesting I was telling my uh my parents about this um and uh and my dad mentioned that um he played he learned a version of Rummy that um he he was working as a young man at a uh in in sort of in a trade and um he was working with a lot of uh black men who played a version that they called Tonks which is also a Rummy version but it's a the point is is that there's like a gazillion different ways the way we played is I would call it basic Rummy or straight Rummy or I don't know how you would call it um and it's just me and my two boys my two older boys seven cards to start with um the draw pile you turn one over it's a discard pile um and what you're trying to do is you're trying to get melds your your melds are either runs of the same suit or sets of the same card of the same number and it's got a meld to be laid down has to be three uh but after that any any player can lay
JVL00:27:09off of it correct build off of that here's the real question do you allow them on straight straights to build around the circle so if somebody goes Queen King Ace of Hearts can you
Mike00:27:24then play the two of hearts we played it where the Ace is low the Ace is one oh so we play it
JVL00:27:31we play it as a number circle we play it as a number circle all the way around but here's
Mike00:27:39the thing that's okay that's what's so great about this game is like you play you try new things anyway so my kids are obsessed with it we played it where the way you add up the points is whoever wins whoever gets rid of all their cards first the points that they get are the sum of what the remaining players have in their hands oh so interesting so which is which is an interesting i don't know if it's a twist i don't know if that's like the original is that in addition to the points they score or just in lieu of the points in lieu of the points you score that's interesting it's interesting because it and and i don't know if i want to keep playing this way but it's a way that we started playing um because it really incentivizes you to get rid of face cards and tents um as well um anyway so it's been interesting and and then we were going to play up to 150 points um so it actually took us like a couple of nights to get through there um but it was like as it was like wake up in the morning can we play it's like as soon as dinner's over can we play um and it's it's great and i enjoy it but i did not expect the sort of the sort of mania that it has kicked off in my house and um i think it's a good thing let me introduce a
JVL00:29:05little twist to you for you sure you could run this as a continuous monthly game where you keep track of the score for the entire month and at the end of the month the winner gets to like pick where you always go out for ice cream or something that's a good idea so we're that we're like in this way the you know the stakes for any given hand are meaningless like it's like playing the long baseball season it's right guys we're sitting yeah we are setting up the rummy scoreboard for september and let's see where we are on uh 30th september
Mike00:29:44i i like it jvl i really like it so anyway you do run the risk the problem with that is you do run
Sonny00:29:51the risk of like somebody getting uh dejected and not wanting to continue to play you know what i
Mike00:30:00thought about this because this i i do have this issue with with the kids right like if like if if somebody wins over and over again and the other one doesn't you know it gets but i was surprised i think something about the the way that they that they both understood the game pretty quickly meant i you know i feel like they could both see i could win the next time i could win the next time you as
JVL00:30:28the parent can also subtly manipulate things because it is always advantageous to be playing directly behind the weakest player and so if one of them is clearly weaker than the other you can them so the stronger players behind the weaker player which is going to or i'm sorry the other way around right so the weakest player is behind like you and you can help them out a little bit
Mike00:30:54there right exactly so um anyway but it's been it's been a great revelation that that they they enjoy running oh michael this makes me so happy that our families are both doing the same that's so it's so funny that i mean it just literally occurred to me i was like gosh what game have i not shown them i've got i've tried to get them into um and and they have some interesting i've tried to get them into the trick taking games um hearts opasha is is kind of my favorite um which is also called oh hell um if you've heard of that game um it's a it's a it's basically it's trick taking and bid making um but you you've changed the bridge you change the correct it's a bridge style style game but you change the number of cards with each with each hand so the first hand is just one card the second hand is two cards you go all the way up and then sometimes you can go all the way back down and so there's lots of strategery with how many bids am i making anyway um but i think that's like and so and rook is another one of those kind of kind of games um but i'm surprised i i should have maybe anticipated that rummy would be the the kind of uh the family of card games that they would enjoy the most so give it a try
JVL00:32:12whatever you're playing the for us the the thing about rummy which has surprised me most is that it hits the sweet spot where the kids are not overly competitive in it whereas with hearts yes because there is a loser in every game of hearts and like typically the whoever loses around like loses really bad they catch the queen and then a bunch of others we get a lot of bad feelings with hearts oh yeah uh with rummy like it's sort of there's enough parody within like everybody can score some and feel good about that they played that hand and sure somebody you know winds up winning the hand but you could you can have a a hand of rummy where like two people each score 100 points right because we don't do it the way you do right right so uh it has been
Mike00:33:00remarkably free of bad feelings for us i've noticed the exact same thing and that's that's been like that's why i've been like oh sure we can play another hand let's keep going please because this this is these are good feelings around the game and not screaming and crying and yeah that's
Sonny00:33:17interesting we so we've actually been playing rummy cube yes i love rummy cube as well which is the same it's it's gin rummy except it's with little tiles instead of cards so it like it it's it's easier for the younger ones because they don't have to hold it right they don't have to hold like a big big you know hand of hand of cards do you know that there are things called card
JVL00:33:42holders we we use these like when the kids were like four and it's like a like a fan and you can stick playing cards in it which holds so if your kids just physically their hands aren't big enough to hold cards but they want to play card games even for like go fish they're like two dollars on amazon yeah but but that makes it but that makes it harder for me to see what cards they
Mike00:34:01have sure sure yeah so sorry just just a little consumer consumer advice so but this is the tiles
JVL00:34:07this is the one that's the one that's the one that's the most popular one
Sonny00:34:11this is one of the nice like remicubate like you basically have like uh you have like a little miniature riser almost and you can put the you put the tiles on them it holds them all right there it's very nice but the kids the kids really enjoy that we we don't keep score so there is there's like a winner which like they get very competitive over who is the winner um as do i frankly i'm i'm not i don't i don't go easy on them i don't go easy on them yeah well you got to teach them
Mike00:34:38you got to learn sometime exactly um don't let them don't let them win uh okay well why don't we move are we gonna get to do some box office talk
JVL00:34:45yeah for the first time in a long time i'm really excited for box office talk because i have
Mike00:34:50questions oh okay well i was just going to roll right into box office talk to talk about the uh two entries two first week entries are at the number one and two spot for this past weekend weapons coming in at number one with uh just under 44 million dollars uh and at number two freakier friday at 28 and a half million dollars um at number two this is the sequel to freaky friday which was itself a remake of the original disney film uh and then number three fantastic for the first steps uh bad guys two and number five naked gun the movie we will be talking about later in the show but uh some box office thoughts jvl you
JVL00:35:37want to kick us off i i just have so many questions about this movie weapons i had never heard of it until last friday uh it opens to 41 million dollars with no stars and no special effects and i just my question is why do any studios make movies other than horror because it seems to me like they ought to make nothing but horror and even if like only one out of every seven horror movies hits the the costs are so cheap and the returns are so outsized like this is just yeah just stop making everything else
Sonny00:36:17so weapons is an interesting one because weapons so weapons is by zach crager uh he had a movie a couple of years back called barbarian which also made a ton of money which which did well it did it did well it grossed i think 41 million uh domestically but it cost like five million to make right because this is that's like the classic horror horror movie craiger writes the script for weapons it goes out and there's a huge bidding war for it like people people are like this movie is gonna be amazing like jordan peele fired his management team because they weren't able to secure it for his distribution company like that's how that's how big this movie was gonna be that's how big like people thought this movie was gonna be so it ended up costing uh 38 million dollars i think so like it's not actually cheap by horror movie standards but it is but it's like but it's but it's a totally it's a totally that's the budget for one scene in fantastic four right right right so uh so weapons uh grossed 43 million in its opening weekend um uh and you know it'll probably it depends it depends on how it holds but like it's gonna be a huge it's gonna make a lot of money regardless like this is you know this is the sort of movie that probably needs at a 40 million dollar budget you probably
JVL00:37:34need to make something like a hundred what is it about the script that was so exciting to people like i read the plot synopsis on wikipedia and i was like okay this sounds like every other horror
Sonny00:37:44movie it's it's the so it's written it's essentially written people have described it as like it's a horror movie by way of magnolia with like lots of different perspectives and they all kind of weave together that's not what it is it's it's a horror movie by way of pulp fiction um or uh reservoir dogs this is much more tarantino-esque than um in terms of structure not in terms of like pop culture references and stuff but like it is it is it is more it is more of that tarantino thing where like you have i think it's it's either five or six vignettes and each one is like from a character's point of view and sometimes the characters intersect from them but it is but it is you know it's kind of like telling it's telling basically five different stories that all converge at the end so again it's it is a little bit like magnolia but it magnolia weaves more than than this does this is like very discreet until the end when everything comes together um uh but it's it's it's just it's just very it's it's just very well done and it it has a lot of the you know what the moments that made barbarian such a hit with audiences and like people were real excited for this movie because barbarian was an original uh very cheap was like 5 million bucks um it looked great it made a decent amount of money not not a ton but like a decent amount of money and so folks were folks were rightly excited for that and it obviously it's paid off because it's uh well what is it at now it is at as we tape this it's at 55 domestic 36 international 91 million
JVL00:39:25worldwide which puts it pretty close to break even already like not it's not quite there but another
Sonny00:39:3230 million or so and it'll it'll probably be there so um but yeah no it it's it's it's an enormous
JVL00:39:39it's an enormous hit but and there are always things like like black book remember black book that ethan hawke move which is like i don't know you know yeah yeah like these movies the first megan or the second i don't know one of the megans like they just just make horror movies yeah yeah
Sonny00:39:55the black phone again the black phone grossed 160 million sorry yeah off of 160 million dollars for that thing 160 million worldwide they have a sequel to that coming out this it's the world premier is going to be at fantastic fest in a month um but the uh but like and this is the other thing about horror right is that it it it is the most franchisable outside of like comic book stuff like if you have a good if you have one good character design you can you can create a i mean this is like legitimately i watched hellraiser in i'd seen like bits and pieces of hellraiser but i watched it for the first time like three or four years ago and that's a bad movie it's it's it's a bad bad bad movie but it had one character design in it pinhead and it did they made 10 more of them they made 10 more of those movies friday the 13th is just a guy in a hockey mask and the hockey mask doesn't even show up till the end of the second movie like i would say and he's also not the killer he's not the killer in the first right right um you know uh michael myers and halloween obviously freddy krueger like again you like and you know for every for every friday and nightmare on elm street or whatever there are probably five movies you've never heard of that
JVL00:41:12didn't they didn't but they're all so cheap it doesn't matter but they're all so cheap it doesn't
Sonny00:41:16matter one hit will pay for pay for everything else now the thing is these are these the the drawback to horror is that it is relatively box office limited you get very few movies like um like a sinners which does 290 million in in the united states or uh get out which did i want to something like that off a five million dollar budget you don't get a lot of movies like that you don't you don't get a lot of movies like that the the the ceiling is typically much lower than that and it doesn't travel overseas as well horror weirdly does not play overseas part of this i like part of this is because china like just doesn't allow horror movies in but china the chinese box office has disappeared anyway so it's not that is less of a that is less of a big deal but like but sinners for instance is a very instructive example of this which had two strikes against it one is black yeah black cast and the rest of the world doesn't like uh black people rest of the world is very that's racist west the rest of the world is very racist america not racist um and uh and it was a horror movie which again doesn't doesn't play as well overseas so like sinners did i actually want to look up because um sinners uh sinners did 278 domestic and only 87 internationally it's 76 percent of its box box office domestically which is incredibly unusual for a movie like this percent the percentage is usually closer to 50 50
Mike00:42:52on horror movies i see um so okay um do we have any other thoughts on weapons or on anything i do we need to talk about the fantastic four it's uh dropped pretty remarkably yeah i think
Sonny00:43:07i think people thought that fantastic four was gonna hold better than it did uh and you know people the audience response to it was very good uh it's it'll it'll probably limp to about 500 million worldwide which again like not a bad number if you can't make if you can't make money off of a 500 million dollar grocery doing something wrong and they are doing something wrong all of these movies cost 180 million dollars and they should cost 120 million dollars right is is basically what it comes down to um all right
Mike00:43:37all right uh any other thoughts freakier Fridays and was anybody waiting for this movie I have no
JVL00:43:42thoughts on it okay my family went and saw it and loved it they thought it was great yeah for whatever it's worth I haven't gotten to it yet but they they thought it was really quite good
Mike00:43:52good it's it's so interesting because like Lindsay Lohan had this kind of brief career Arc where she was remaking old Disney uh live action movies right there was the parent trap which launched her and freaky Friday um don't forget love bug and and Herbie uh the love bug um so it's it's just kind
JVL00:44:14of an interesting return to the uh return to that well can I just say she was great in both I never saw her be but she's great in both the parent trap and freaky Friday oh my gosh yeah we we re-watched
Mike00:44:27uh well we watched with the kids uh the parents great mean girls great child actress absolutely um all right well why don't we move on then uh and talk about again the number five in the list and how did it do Michael so right now it's uh the naked gun in its second week it dropped about 50 percent um and it's it's it's just under 33 million dollars so it seems like it's not doing that great but maybe I'm wrong maybe I don't understand no how a movie like this is supposed to perform no I
Sonny00:45:06there's a reason look there's a reason they don't make many pure comedies anymore yeah because this this movie is almost inarguably the best pure comedy to come out in several years and it's going to gross 33 million dollars or well it'll end up grossing probably around 50 million or so it did not it did not get the legs it needed on word of mouth I don't think to to get it much past that I thought I thought there was a chance audiences would see it and the talk would be very good and then it just didn't it's just kind of your comedy in years Sonny how about a big boy review the naked gun starring Liam Neeson uh in the in the Leslie Nielsen role kind of uh you know the the concept here is it is uh a it is kind of a soft reboot in the sense that it is technically a sequel to the the naked gun movies in that it is uh all the characters are based on uh they are they are the children of the characters from the the first one which has led to the the scene that's in all the trailers that everybody laughs at where like Liam Neeson is is you know crying at a shrine to his father played by Leslie Nielsen Paul Walter Hauser is there crying at a shrine to his father and then it goes down the ways and he sees the guy in front of the OJ Simpson shrine and he just gives a head he gives a head shake and walks away um uh the naked gun is very much in the style of the Zucker Abrams Zucker school of comedy which is that it is it is constructed in a way to have a gag or three per minutes there is the the joke density on this thing is very very high uh the the number of either visual laughs like visually inspired laughs or you know written gags puns whatever um to downright like fantasy sequences is very high it's a it's a very it's a very high uh amount of jokes per minute which um i is has never honestly been my cup of tea i have like i i don't dislike the zazz movies i don't dislike airplane or the naked gun or any of those movies but i have always found them like almost weirdly uncomfortable to watch because they are there's so many jokes that i feel like a i feel like i'm missing things and b a lot of them are just like oh that's clever that's clever that's a funny that's a funny clever idea and like the the example uh the example i always use with this is an airplane um the but that's not important right now uh running gag which is which is so like the the way the joke is constructed is a character will mention something like i've got to go to the hospital and this woman's got to be got to a hospital yeah what is it gotta get to a hospital and he's like what is it and the first character says it's a place where they go to treat people for medical emergencies that's not important right now and like uh and and like that's that is i described this in my review of the new naked gun as an english teacher joke it's an english teacher joke it's like you have a dangling modifier and your dangling modifier means that it's not entirely clear what you're saying even though it's mostly clear what you're saying it's a joke that works on the page and in in audibly um and is clever but isn't really like laugh out loud clever it's like oh yeah that's that's funny that's funny clever um that said this movie does have a couple of uh this movie does have a this movie has a couple of very funny sequences one of them being uh the crab hands sequence which is like very funny which is like the closest thing to uh like a a laugh out loud long-lived comedic bit in this in this film um and then the other one the other one is the uh the the chili dog and coffee oh boy that's funny when i so when i when i saw that in the theater and that that sequence in the theater was the one time i was like actually losing it i was like i was just like i was like and and it gets to it gets to why these movies do these movies are interesting in their in that they're different from how most modern comedy uh kind of works right now right so a lot of modern comedy involves putting putting normal people in absurd situations and like seeing how they respond to it often through improv right like so this is the hangover movies it's a lot of the it's a lot of the judd anchor man movies it's it's anchor man it's et cetera et cetera this is these are different in that the nothing i this is not an improvisational movie at all this is this is all very much on the page it's all written to be performed in a very specific and precise way and we we just don't get a lot of movies like that anymore you know i like i it's i honestly have a hard time remembering what the last one really is i i want to i want to i actually want to look
Mike00:50:19this up just because i want to i want to make sure i'm uh the last comedy movie that has this general structure because i was thinking about with the last comedy movie that came out in theaters that i enjoyed and that was game night which i believe was from 2016 that's 2017 or 18 17 yeah but yeah no it it
Sonny00:50:44does not it's it the comedy has shifted almost entirely to streaming yeah um which is for anime because netflix netflix made big in uh investments in like adam sandler and uh chris rock and um uh what's his name the kevin hart yeah um um and you know i don't know i like the other thing this movie is not is referential there's no real referential humor there's a there's very there are a few like very old references like to the black eyed peas and that sort of thing but it is not it is not like family guy style hey remember this that was funny remember when this guy did this that was funny
JVL00:51:27it's not like that so there is a lot of referential humor in the background i mean this movie is stuffed with as many easter eggs as and i would like to watch it again for that reason among them my favorite referential humor is that there is a fake ufc event which takes place at the end and there is a pan down to the ring and you see all of the sponsors logos on the ufc ring and one of them is npr and i fucking burst out laughing at that
Sonny00:52:03i just thought but that's not referential humor that's like a that's like an incongruity right it's not like it's not like again the the the comp here is like family guy where it's like
JVL00:52:15yeah no it's not like that it's not like there is a scene where you see the beaver you see the stuffed beaver from the the first nice beaver all the references are to the old yes right a lot of
Mike00:52:26a lot of nice people or like the split second priscilla presley uh cameo um yeah
Sonny00:52:32so yeah i don't know i i liked i i thought the movie was very funny uh but i will say that it has not it has not lingered with me except for a couple of sequences like the ones i just mentioned will you talk about the chili dog sequence please sonny so in the chili dog sequence uh the liam has a uh he has a body cam on and we are watching his journey from home to the station and he drinks coffee and then eats like five chili dogs and a meat and has to get to a bathroom with with great haste and and we are watching this like through not only not only the body cam but we're watching it like as liam niece as as liam neeson is watching it and also the sub suspect he pulled in and colleague oh yeah it's buster rhymes and some of liam neeson's colleagues and he's like shrinking
JVL00:53:27further and further back in the corner of the room well because we we come to learn through the way that this sequence is cut against the editing on the sequence is really really good yes is that the chili dogs it's presented as a one-time like oh he had a chili dog for breakfast that's but it turns out he's shame eating chili dogs and that this is like a kink that he has and that he's doing like five of them a day and that this is and they're like yelling at himself yeah yelling and then he eats one after and also he's got like a there's something about breastfeeding right he's like you get clicks of him yelling at himself because he's yelling at himself about the chili dogs breastfed until he's 13 and then you get just again you get snippets of of his internal model one of which is can't get up unless you've got milk on your chin but then the scene where he goes in like he finally goes into like a coffee shop to use their bathroom and there's somebody in it it just pulls out his gun and starts firing at the ceiling and it's just a moment of sheer pandemonium joy it's great it's a great sequence again this is
Sonny00:54:42this is the moment where i will i'm like on the i like i'm falling out of my chair laughing and there aren't there just aren't a lot of moments like that in the film how about the snowman again the snowman i thought was like i thought that was i thought that was fine i thought that was amusing but it didn't make me like want to fall down and laugh jvl tell us tell us what your
JVL00:55:01thoughts are so uh you know i did not i went into this very blind i didn't didn't know anything about it and only afterwards did i look up and see it's directed by akiva schaefer akiva schaefer is one of the lonely island guys yeah and it has a very lonely island sensibility to it which is that the hallmark of the best lonely island stuff is increasing absurdity right something starts out a little weird and then gets weird like you know like i met this girl showing me a fucker like we fucked bin laden and then it just gets like that's itself is strange but then it gets like weirder and weirder
Sonny00:55:41and weirder and did he direct uh pop star never stop never stopping yes i believe so yes and
JVL00:55:47chippendales rescue rangers i think right right yeah so it's uh so for instance we get a montage of pamela anderson and i want to say leslie nielsen but it's not you know and uh liam neeson going away for they fall in love for a weekend and they go out to the mountains and we get i what is it's a jefferson starship song behind it it's uh it's um
Mike00:56:16if you hadn't mentioned it i would yeah it's it's uh it's uh gosh what is that song anyway unimportant but like we have like a starship actually i think it's just starship so we have
JVL00:56:26this 80s starship strong to it and they are you know uh falling in love and then they're making a snowman and then pamela anderson pulls him inside and goes up to a bookcase and pulls out a book that's like incantations and spells and dark magic and they they bring the snowman to life and then they make the snowman part of a sexual threesome then they start eating the snowman then the snowman turns evil and begins trying to kill liam he gets jealous because they try to exclude him but but the way he tries to kill liam neeson is by like going and spritzing out his asthma inhaler so there's no there's no inhaling shots left and it it feels like a sort of pg version of what is that famous uh too many cooks it feels like a yes too many
Mike00:57:30it's very funny by the way the song is nothing's going to stop us now which is also funny because it's which is it's from the mannequin soundtrack uh oh is that right yeah so there's like a little
Sonny00:57:42about something that's right that's referential but i didn't i didn't catch it so i you know
JVL00:57:46that's what i'm saying a lot of it's done i think very intentionally i think there's a lot of layers in it so i think the rewatchability of this will be pretty high uh i really liked danny houston so can you guys explain to me what danny houston is because i kept thinking he looks like jack
Mike00:58:06nicholson in the night he's john houston he's john houston's son he's angelica houston's uh brother
JVL00:58:12no but but he looks like jack nicholson in batman 1989. like the when he jack nicholson has his human mask on like he just i don't know that's about what his face looks like yeah yeah i i've
Sonny00:58:25loved him so i've loved him since uh 30 days of night he's like one of the like shark-like
JVL00:58:30vampires in that movie he's great oh yeah he's he's very good in this i don't know the whole thing is is kind of delightful is that i mean yeah i mean it's again not totally it's not old school right i would not put this on the mount rushmore of comedies i wouldn't put it close to a mount rushmore of comedies because it's not always better than it needs to be a lot of times it just hits the bar of like okay they got the joke the joke is okay the joke is funny the best comedies are ones where the jokes go like two extra layers beyond where they were my favorite version of this is or my favorite example of this because it's so clear is um in uh what is what is the anna anna what's her face uh acapella movie anna kendrick pitch perfect anna kendrick pitch perfect right so in pitch perfect there's a scene in which anna kendrick is released from jail and meets her and says what up million dollar baby or no what up hillary swank from million dollar baby right in a bad comedy that's the joke the joke is just a reference to this this other movie anna kendrick's character says to him you don't have to say the the name of the actress in the movie you could just say what up million dollar baby which is a little more clever right but the real joke is that he then gives her this look and he says ah prison changed you right which is like they just they go two layers deeper than they need to go to make to find the funny and naked gun this naked gun does not do that every time it has as you say it's not it's got a real zazz level of we're just going to keep throwing jokes at you and keep doing it but when it does hit that level it's very funny so another another example is there's a scene in which Liam Neeson shows up at the police chief's house because she has been pulled in to talk and they're unimportant but like the gag is that her husband is asleep next to her and she keeps telling Liam Neeson not to wake him up and if she wakes her husband up and then it turns out you know he's got an interview in the morning no he's got a presentation presentation presentation right and then she she gives details the presentation because you know if he doesn't make this slide go then that other snake what's his face is going to get the promotion and again that's like funny but then the the they go deeper and Liam Neeson is like what Richie was his mentor how like the idea Liam Neeson is invested in his boss's husband's professional pro is very funny and when it hits when the movie hits those levels that's when it really gets funny agreed it just it only goes there maybe three or four times uh i think but it's totally enjoyable i wished that i had had flash with me because the sex scene is very funny so which is not sex is in the way that all these movies are the the joke is that somebody's looking at silhouettes thinking that it is sex but then you see that it's not sex right and that thing is perfect like flash would have pissed himself right yeah
Mike01:01:59um so michael you must have loved it come on i loved it and i but here's the thing is where i differ from sonny is that i love these movies um i love the naked gun movies i love uh the airplane movies um i i there are things there are movies that i share with certain friends and um with my dad like my dad was an original police squad the tv show fan and so like he knew which i i don't think people appreciate this was a show that was on in the early 80s on i think abc for like six episodes and it's funnier than just about any other tv show ever um and it is it is that it is what became the naked gun right several years later they made this movie from the files squad the naked gun um but it is just the same rhythms this leslie nielsen plays the same character and um you can actually go watch several sequences on youtube and they are still funny they're still hilarious i love this stuff i eat it up uh and so i and i also i'm a huge fan of the lonely island um i've been hearing i listen like i listened to their podcast um and so i've been hearing akiva schaffer talk about this movie uh so i was both anticipating it very highly but also like trying to curb my own enthusiasm about it like like this can't it can't be as good as the original by the way you're talking about like a joke that goes on and on and on and on you're talking about like a joke that goes on and on and goes above and beyond like the original naked gun does that constantly my favorite being you know as he's looking up uh at priscilla presley nice beaver and then as she brings it down she says thanks i just had it stuffed which is like a perfect example of that here's the thing the thing about these movies and the question i have for this one is it's not so it's not so much about how much you laugh the first time you watch it it's when you're talking with other people who have seen it even a few times but preferably like many times um it's it's the it's the throwing back the jokes and the lines to each other and it in some way it's so much funnier out in the real world as you're recalling that experience of watching the movie this is the movie to watch with your
Sonny01:04:27eighth grade buddies totally yeah i i i thought about this a lot in connection to this movie but also some other things this is a sort of movie that if it had come out in 2002 i would have watched it a hundred times on the couch of my frat oh yeah with my friends drinking beers getting face and laughing and laughing it would have been like a zoolander or an old or whatever um that sort of movie has kind of disappeared appeared the kind the the the the you know i i kind of dismissed referential but like the the the sort of movie where you're just trading lines from the film with a friend a la lines from anchorman or napoleon dynamite or animal house or whatever like there's an entire genre of film and mode of communication that. Frequently i don't want to be i don't want but frequently mail mail to mail yes communicative shorthand that has vanished from the public space and this movie is very much a relic of that i think or it would have been it would have been a movie in that mold and i i just i don't think that's maybe i'm wrong maybe i'm just old and out of touch and i don't hang out with people in person enough anymore but this feels like the sort of movie that 20 years ago would have been a generational touchstone through repetition and uh and in-person communication
JVL01:06:11in a way that simply does not exist anymore so here's my my question no no it's the children who are wrong is it well is it the case that these movies don't exist anymore or is it the case that the kids who are in those positions no longer watch movies like that that 20 year old version of you those guys are sending tick tock clips back and forth yeah probably and not watching movies on the sofa because i don't i don't know the answer to this like i didn't like what flash does not like flash is the one who says to his friends guys you got to watch tropic thunder this thing is amazing his friends have never heard of tropic thunder right and then they watch it they're like oh my god that's so funny but he only gets these things from me really and like among his cohort there is no film literacy none of them ever says well it is literally not a thing that has ever happened to him but one of his buddies has said hey we should watch this movie right it has never happened he's the one dragging his movies into his friend group and then they laugh about it right then i mean they you know they will sit and quote lex grossman rex gross up lex grossman back and forth to each other but only because he dragged his buddies kicking and screaming into tropic thunder
Mike01:07:27the um i mean i don't i think in that case then i think that's true and it is why this all this whole world feels alien to me because that is literally what my friends and i in high school did i mean we didn't we just watched movies constantly constantly and had this whole language um among us that was based on this shared experience can i just but can i go back and just share a couple of other things that i just enjoyed from this movie um so maybe i'm reading too much into it but it did feel like there was almost a comment on what we're talking about right now because every reference to something pop culture related was from like 2003 2004 right um whether it's the black eyed peas the uh janet jackson wardrobe malfunction um clippy uh oh the clippy made me laugh that was a reference um like everything seemed it almost seemed even even some of the movie references right like the dark knight stuff at the beginning or uh it's it's like all i mean i know that's a little later 2008 but like it all jumped out to me as almost a comment like we we even understand that this is out of date what we are making here um and out of time out of the time that we're in now um i just also thought i i just thought it was a funny throughline it's like everything is frozen in that time uh and i loved it um i loved the um i loved how the uh the the word play that is in this right like the kind of uh you know the stuff with uh pamela anderson and the chair or the seat will she take a seat like like i honestly just wanted more quite more of that um i i like i i love that stuff more teacher humor for mike more teacher humor for me i i think it's so funny and and it works really well with that rapid fire kind of thing they were going for with the jokes um the background jokes are hilarious as well which is such a hallmark of those of these movies the um my favorite was the uh as they're going through the police station and having some conversation about something uh watching the two cops uh carrying the giant lemonade stand uh side through there with the with the two little girls who were like arrested yeah being arrested just like little little stuff or the um these were things that i was like sharing with my kids afterward i was like what can i share with them from the movie that they'll find funny um they loved my description of the uh you know the booking photo but it's like it's like a fashion photo shoot you know and it just they just walk by it like it's just it's you know to quote a certain producer it's so dense there are so many jokes going on it i if nothing else happens out of this i uh i just hope that like there is some kind of renewed interest in that kind of uh comedy i don't think based on the conversation there will be uh but it's just just like can we just have more of this please final thought i'll say is pamela
JVL01:10:46anderson hilarious she's great under underappreciated comic genius she always has been always she was very funny in barbed wire pam anderson again just an underrated actress quad actress
Mike01:11:01she's great the whole the whole scat singing thing was like i i that was something i was laughing at because i just i it was it it it it was a very specific kind of joke for like music people i thought which is just like actually doesn't everybody realize that scat is awful and right it's just it's i it's not good actually so anyway um those are those are my thoughts what i
JVL01:11:29thought was great about that though was it the villain i'm sorry i forget what danny houston's character's name was but uh danny elon musk yeah he was so into it that he was in a state a state of sexual frenzy not because pam anderson's character is hot but because of the scatting right right yeah exactly he's like that was like whenever you pan to him everybody else in the clip everybody else in scene looks like they want to gouge their eyes out and he looks like he just wants to rip her clothes off with his teeth because of the scat but he's also like looking
Mike01:12:04around like isn't this great guys it's great uh oh also um the all of the like mma and wrestling folks that were in this movie like what's is there an explanation for that what's that about
JVL01:12:20all right so cody rhodes is in it and i immediately thought that that was casper van deen i did not think that that was cody rhodes that that shocked me uh and then big john who's the mma guy um he he is in it as the referee from uh from the ufc i don't know i don't know i mean i guess that like the lonely guys are just cool they're friends with
Mike01:12:44all these guys i guess so um all right any any other final thoughts on uh the naked gun 2025 nope nope all right well that is all the time we're going to give to this episode join us over at subbeacon.com tell us what your favorite gag was in the naked gun or in the past naked gun films uh and we will talk to you next time yeah um one name that we didn't talk about was paul walter hauser he was kind of an he was kind of weak link in this movie i thought um
Sonny01:13:22he didn't really do much for me well he's he he has kind of a nothing role uh he's he's not given very much to do i the the thing that jumped out the most at me and i wonder if this was abandoned at one point to like strip out some of the referentiality is that the the plot of the movie is the same exact plot as the kingsman yes yeah it's about it's about an environmentalist who wants to like send out a signal that uh causes people to murder each other so the rich people can go live in a bunker and enjoy great food great art right like that's like the that it's literally it's literally the villain plot from the kingsman and i kept expecting like i kept expecting frankly paul walter hauser's character to be like this is exactly like the plot from the or like to have it kind of slowly build up talking about how his favorite movie is the kingsman right right like how you know oh yeah you know this i love i love sam jackson who played the you know the rich guy and the king
JVL01:14:17right right right right my favorite thing about this though was that the the meta gag from that is that these guys think that when they emerge from the bunker they will lead the savages when obviously they're all so soft that they'll get torn apart the minute they leave and you get that sort of at the end when he he challenges liam neeson to a fight and then after being punched
Mike01:14:39once he's like what the hell was that oh it hurts yeah it really hurts my stomach last last thought though uh apparently they were gonna make this at one point with ed helms like what a disaster that would have been what a disaster that movie would have been with ed homes i like ed helms but the
Sonny01:14:58problem with ed helms is that he's not a straight man right exactly like a comedian he's a comic actor so like you need you need like people the the weirdest thing about the making of this movie where people like oh i don't know if liam neeson can be funny i don't know if he's a funny guy
JVL01:15:15what are you talking about didn't they see the phantom menace oh i'm sure it's fine
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