#74. 'Knight Rider' Bonus
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This bonus episode is a nostalgic rewatch of the classic 1980s series Knight Rider, newly streaming on Netflix, with Sonny, JVL, and Vic tackling the fan-consensus "Goliath" two-parter (season 2, episodes 1-2) in which Michael Knight and KITT battle a rocket-armed 18-wheeler nemesis and a scarred rich-kid villain (also played by David Hasselhoff) out for revenge. JVL and Vic have real childhood affection for the show — arguing over whether it beat The A-Team on the violence-o-meter, debating the Trans Am vs. Camaro question, and marveling at cast trivia like Edward Mulhare's Devon being a poor man's Rex Harrison — while Sonny, coming to it cold, is baffled and delighted by KITT's nonsensical powers (rigging casino dice, popping handcuffs, an apparently limited laser supply) and the shameless 80s soap-opera acting and pre-commercial freeze frames. Vic runs it through his Quadrant system and rates it a career-best plot of A+++ for sheer clarity, an A for duration (no commercial breaks to sit through on Netflix), an A for action/violence, and only a D for sex/nudity since "it's no Charlie's Angels." The episode opens with a long bit about the Garden State Parkway renaming its rest stops after famous New Jerseyans, including swapping the beloved Cheesequake stop for a new Jon Bon Jovi rest area, before JVL delivers a detailed history of creator Glen Larson's career — from a 1950s surf-pop band through Alias Smith and Jones, Battlestar Galactica, and The Fall Guy to Knight Rider — as a case study in how network TV of that era was purely formula-driven commerce, with a digression comparing Netflix's own three-season-and-out business model to CBS's assembly-line 1980s programming.
From the show notes
After some rest stop talk, the guys discuss the crowning achievement of 1980s TV, Knight Rider.
Full transcript
Vic00:00:00Hello and welcome to another bonus episode of the Sub-Beacon. I'm Victor Mattis along with Jonathan V Last and Sonny Bunch. Just a reminder, the Sub-Beacon is now available through Patreon. Go to Sub-Beacon.com. You'll easily find us. Please subscribe. Tell your friends. Today, we're talking about Knight Rider that hit 1980s TV show about Kit, a sentient Trans Am now available on Netflix JVL. This was your idea, but you had some other speaking of other business, other driving and driving before we start on this.
JVL00:00:45So you were on the road in the Garden State. I am up in the Garden State. I was shocked because when I went traveling south to along the Garden State Parkway over to Belmar. Yeah, I passed the cheese. The cheese quake rest stop and it is no longer. Oh, no cheese quake. It is now the Jon Bon Jovi. Oh, rest up. And so when does this happen? It's fan service, man. It's fan service. Give me back cheese in recent months. In recent months, all up and down the Garden State Parkway. They've been renaming rest stops in honor of famous New Jerseyans. We have a Toni Morrison. She's Toni Morrison rest stop. We have a Frank Sinatra rest.
Vic00:01:28Which one was that one? Do you remember? What about like these were all famous peanut cheese quake, but like Richard Stockton was if he was a Jersey. It was not the not the turnpike. Oh, so these are our state. You know what? So Parkway will name for locations. Yes. Many of those I think were not memorable as a result because it's not Molly pitcher. It's not right. James. I love this. I love this. And I'm very excited by the whole thing. Like cheese quake, even though it's syrup. Is that an actual place? Cheese quake, New Jersey. I don't know, but it's right by the bridge. It's right by Woodbridge. Wow. It's Bon Jovi time for me. Very exciting. That's all I got. Okay, that's it. Well, I'll keep an eye on it. I drove up from 81. I wonder what the name of that. Oh, no, no. Well, I didn't go to a rest stop and went all the way up to 98. So I don't know if I would have seen one or not. Nevertheless, why? Why is Netflix putting Knight Rider on? That's what I want to know.
JVL00:02:24Or, alternatively, why did it take so long for Netflix to put Knight Rider on?
Vic00:02:33You and I are similar. We grew up with Knight Rider. I mean, it was. Did you guys watch Knight Rider? Yes. It's 19. It was. JVL, were you allowed to watch Knight Rider? I was allowed to watch Knight Rider. Okay, good, good. A team no. Yes, for some reason. Knight Rider, yes. It's because the action was not. I think guns. I think it was guns. Yeah. A team has too many guns. There were no sawed-off AK-47s. There was always a sawed-off AK-47 on the A team. Always. And no one, not a lot of people, people died, but not a lot. You often saw people being thrown into the air in the A team. People exploding like, whoa. Yeah, that's exactly right. That's how it works. They're explosions. Yeah, yeah. The force wave just pushes people. That's right. There's no internal damage, no internal organ damage. No, they're strapped. Yeah, they're strapped like that. They just like get launched on a board. That's right. Okay. So Night Rider was very, it was very story heavy. It's interesting. It's dark. So you and I watch it. Sonny, this is after your, were you familiar with Night Rider at all?
Sonny00:03:35I mean, I'm aware of a show where David Hasselhoff has a talking car who is voiced by the teacher from Boy Meets World.
Vic00:03:43I was going to say Bill Daniels. Yeah. Who is still alive.
JVL00:03:45More, more, more importantly, the longtime president of the SAG. Who led them through a very perilous strike negotiation during his tenure.
Vic00:03:56I was going to say a doctor from St. Elsewhere or the doctor from St. Elsewhere. There you go. William Daniels. So we watched, we asked JVL to tell us what might be a highly regarded episode to watch. And where did you find out about the episode we watched? I just Googled it.
JVL00:04:14And the consensus pick seems to be that the Goliath two parter, which is season two, episodes one and two, is the best because what we do is we meet, Kit meets his nemesis, an 18 wheeler version of Kit. Goliath. With rockets. And also David Hasselhoff has to, he meets his nemesis. Yes. Who is David Hasselhoff? Who is David Hasselhoff with a soul patch and a mustache.
Vic00:04:44Wait a minute, he played the other guy, too. Because, you know, they fought each other. I didn't I thought, oh, they must be two different people in that fight sequence.
JVL00:04:53It reminded me of the Bat Hombre. Do you remember this? There was a there's a what is that Batman back when things were bad for in the Batman comic books in the sixties, there was an episode in Mexico with the Bat Hombre, and he has like opposite a little Serape and a Mexican hat and then a little mustache.
Vic00:05:17And nobody knows that he's Batman that, you know, it's very, you know, you put him stashed in a little soul patch goatee thing going on. It's you can't tell. So Goliath, I actually watched both parts.
Sonny00:05:30So I, I, I think I fucked this up. I only watched the second part and I didn't realize it was the second part of a two parter until like five minutes into the episode.
Vic00:05:40That's they give you a little rundown in the beginning. And I'm sure you've sure you were able to follow JVL. I was able to catch all this part to a Goliath party. So that's my watch. But I couldn't resist. I had to watch the first one. And of course, it's on Netflix.
Sonny00:05:53So did you remember this from your childhood?
Vic00:05:56I don't remember this. I remember an episode called The Topaz Connection, but I don't remember. 100%. I remember you do really.
JVL00:06:03Because I was desperate to buy a toy Goliath, but they didn't make toys. There were no there were no Knight Rider action figures. We have a big week.
Vic00:06:12They had to have sold the shocking. There was no there was no hint that there was a I mean, there might have been
JVL00:06:17like a matchbox car kit, but there was no Transformers level kit. Yeah. With like rockets coming out the side or like G.I.
Sonny00:06:26Joe style. Yeah.
JVL00:06:27Which is what I what it really needed. There's so much going on.
Sonny00:06:32You could have just bought an Optimus Prime and painted it black.
JVL00:06:35Yes, you could have. That's true. In part one of this, there is a B unit shot because because Knight Rider has a lot of a lot of B unit shots that are just a black Trans Am driving down some street somewhere.
Vic00:06:50Oh, yeah. Also. Down in, you know, out in the desert because, you know, it's. Or out in the desert.
JVL00:06:54It's not far from Studio City. Like a man with no name. Yeah. There there was a B unit shot of him driving through some urban environment in which he passes a giant billboard with an ad for cigarettes and an adult bookstore. I saw the huge adult bookstore.
Vic00:07:12I immediately went to a bookstore to myself.
JVL00:07:15Man, the eighties were real. These kids today have no understanding. How real was this is eight o'clock primetime TV on CBS and just like, yeah, adult bookstores are part of the landscape.
Vic00:07:31And not like not again and not not like pornos, but books. You're reading books. You know, it's what a sure as our friend would say, one handed books. They were one handed books. But you know what? The thing that came to my mind is the acting. We watched this at the time. And if you were a grown up, I think you would have watched this unironically. You've been like, Oh, this is a good show. I try. It's really entertaining. But when you watch it in, you know, 20, 30 years later, it's it's so shockingly bad.
JVL00:08:04The acting and soap opera acting.
Vic00:08:06Yes. And so there's I stopped. I asked Kate, I said, Is it just me or is it like are the dramas today that you see on network television much different than the dramas, quote unquote, dramas of the eighties?
Sonny00:08:19Well, but it was also it was also very specifically eighties in the way that it has like the hot eighties bombshell computer nerd.
JVL00:08:31April. Yes. April. I don't know if you guys remember, because when I saw her, I thought to myself, that doesn't look like I remember Bonnie. She got to remember April and Bonnie was replaced. But then only for a season. Then April got kicked to the curb and they brought Bonnie back because of the fan outrage. Did they add this for a show that only ran four seasons?
Vic00:08:53Is it shocking? It's shocking. It only for seasons. It's shocking. It only ran. I feel like it was for a decade in my, in my, in my mind's eye. OK, the interesting thing is.
JVL00:09:03But on the other on the other hand, for us at the period of time when this hit us, Victorino, yeah, four seasons is the difference between second grade to sixth grade. Oh, it's huge. Yeah, yeah. Which feels like a decade. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, the difference between you as a third grader
Vic00:09:17and you as a seventh grader is a lifetime it's it's a big deal. Can I ask?
Sonny00:09:23Can I ask some questions? Sure. Can I ask some questions about Knight Rider and Kit?
JVL00:09:28Oh, yeah. Yeah. Because it's an interesting backstory. Why wasn't it an Iraq Z? Why was a Pontiac Firebird Trans Am and not a Chevy Camaro Iraq Z? I feel it's a very interesting. I feel like they came out at the same time. In my mind, they're the same car.
Vic00:09:43They came out, you know, Camaro.
JVL00:09:45They're the same car. They're the they're the GM. Everything about like, you know, remember, there's a GM head and eight different brands, right? You graduated people up and that's right. Yeah. Sonny. Sorry. Go ahead, Sonny. Ask your questions, young man.
Sonny00:09:58OK, so in in the episode that I watched in the second episode, they go to Caesar's Palace.
Vic00:10:04Oh, yes. The old Caesars. Yeah.
Sonny00:10:08Well, I have a non-Kit question. Did did did David Hasselhoff's evil twin brother own Caesar's Palace?
Vic00:10:16No, he frequented. He was a gambler there. He was just like a regular gambler.
Sonny00:10:20Seems to be he seems to be telling like the the pit boss, like, let him make his best.
Vic00:10:25Oh, yeah. Well, you know, when you're a high roller like that, you have some sort of pit.
JVL00:10:29You know, he wears a white a white suit and he has a cane. And so people naturally listen to him. He also by the way, he's also living in the suite from Rain Man and The Hangover. It's the same suite. Sonny, I want to correct you on something, though. He is not Michael Knight's evil twin brother. No, no, no. Here's what happened. Oh, you tell a JVL. Michael Knight was a policeman who was shot in the face and left for dead. And when the Knight Corporation went and decided to use him as their their instrument of vengeance and justice, they had a plastic surgeon reconstruct his face to look like David Hasselhoff. And then it turns out the reason they made him look like that was because that was Gareth Garth Garth Garth Garth. That is Garth and Garth was the son, the ne'er do well son. Yes. Of the benefactor who set up this entire foundation. Knight Industries 2000. Knight Industries 2000. And so that's why because so Michael Knight was made to look like Garth through plastic surgery.
Sonny00:11:40He wanted a good so this this twisted, rich old man took a wounded police officer and mutilated him to look like his idiot son. Like before, but am I under am I understanding? All right. All right. So anyway, here's my question about kit. So while when when they go to Caesar's Palace, kid is parked outside. Yes, kid is parked outside. He's right in the front of Caesar's Palace and he's got, I guess, a camera on David Hasselhoff that can show him what David Hasselhoff is doing. And while David Hasselhoff throws the dice kit changes the dice, did you get one of his sense?
Vic00:12:20Or upgrade that I don't understand what the sound effect. Did you like the sound effect?
Sonny00:12:25Like it like zapped. It wasn't like the dice. It wasn't like the dice rolled over to another side. It was like the dice blinked out of existence and then blinked back into existence immediately right on the correct numbers.
JVL00:12:38I what exactly was kit doing? You know, they can make it's one of those digital readouts that explained it.
Sonny00:12:45Sonny, I don't understand what I don't think could make millions that millions just by rigging.
Vic00:12:50Casinos and stuff. But, you know, he's a card shark. Kit is a card shark.
Sonny00:12:54That's the best. Similarly, there's there's a moment where David Hasselhoff's hands are in handcuffs. And yes, he's like, take care of this kit. And Kit goes, bloop, bloop, bloop. And then the handcuffs come off. Yeah, it was. And I'm like, it was a heat thing.
Vic00:13:09How did that how did that work? I thought he used the Internet to pick the code.
Sonny00:13:14Concentrated. I love, by the way, I don't understand what this I don't look. Car and I understand fast car and I understand indestructible car. I don't understand car that can alter the fabric of space and time to make anything happen.
Vic00:13:30There is like electromagnetic manipulation going on. Also, the X-ray mode. Yes. Also, infrared mode. Also, the blackjack, the blackjack on the screen is like the blackjack from like strip poker and the Commodore 64. Yes. From what somebody told me. And, you know, it's it's like. Thank you. You know, you can see the thing. It's very. And I'm like, oh, I've played this game before. Watching the screen redraw. That's right. It's pretty good. It's also quite the cast. The the guy who plays Devin, right? The debonair Devin is played by Edward Mulhare. Right. And who is he's a poor man. I hate to say this. He was because he's a he's a good actor. He's a British actor. Poor man's Rex Harrison. He was when I was a kid. He was in the TV series The Ghost and Mrs. Muir with Hope Lang, which is based on the movie The Ghost and Mrs. Muir with Rex Harrison. But so he was like that. He had the he had the dashing accent. And for people who want to know. Well, I think we've sort of explained what happened where in this two parter Wilton Knights, the late Wilton Knights son gets out of jail in Africa, South Africa. I can't where I can't remember where he was. Prisoned in Africa. In Africa. Yes. He comes out wanting vengeance and wanting to kill Michael Knight because he was he became the good son who. That's right. That's right. Dad never had. And he wants to get the shell, the shell of of of kids, kids, molecular bonded shell.
JVL00:15:10And you see the special tools they were using to make that shell flashing lights. Yeah. And you get a lot of screen time spent on faceless science.
Vic00:15:20It's creating a shell. And you know what? Quick turnaround. I've never seen him. I haven't seen a mechanic shop work that fast. And they. Yes. Go ahead, Sonny.
Sonny00:15:30I'm sorry. Can I ask a question? Who was the the woman that David Hasselhoff had to save from the casino?
JVL00:15:37She's Rita. Rita was just just a sort of damsel in distress a week.
Vic00:15:42Her brother was killed. As you know, her brother was killed and she was worried about her brother and she suspected that Garth. In fact, murder her brother. So her strategy was to go fuck Garth. She was going to show him. Michael was so incensed. Michael was so incensed by this because I see you're taking up with her with him. And she goes, no, it's not like that at all. I just know he knows what happens to my brother. So I decide I'll just fuck him and then I'll just get the answer. That's how it works. Good for you, Rita.
Sonny00:16:16I did not understand. I did not understand. I thought that. They I thought she was involved with David Hasselhoff, but no, no, no.
Vic00:16:24But at the end, she could see if you look at her at the end, she's like, I could get used to this. It's kinky, you know, where I'm going to go now date one guy and then the other.
JVL00:16:33I love the idea that she's a casino dealer who on her off hours likes to go down the casino and play cards for money.
Vic00:16:42Where did she get the money from? I mean, she's really good. That's how dealers do. And it's very and she's a very casual player. You know, she's just like. Yeah, a little bit of here, a little bit there. So I have a couple of fantastic larger observations here.
JVL00:16:56Yeah. One of which is that this must fit the Sonny Bunch definition of camp. Because nobody involved in Knight Rider thinks they're making camp. No, no, no.
Sonny00:17:09The fight at the end of the second episode where where David Hasselhoff is doing like like moon kicks. I don't even know what those are. He's doing like sweeping, sweeping. Yes. I don't even know what I'll tell you what it is. But they were the worst looking kicks I've ever seen.
Vic00:17:29Somebody as somebody who once did American Kenpo, he was doing he was he did a roundhouse. But because David Hasselhoff, his leg is bent. And so it's like you would do it if you were just, you know, you know, messing around, you know, at home or something. I mean, clearly there was not a lot of effort in the training of this in this fight between him. And whoever the double was very convincingly looked like David. David has so much hair in the fight. There's a lot of hair.
Sonny00:17:57It was very funny watching the wig get passed back and forth from shot to reverse shot. I'll tell you that.
Vic00:18:03Also, you know, I actually, you know, I decided to do a run this through the quadrants. Right. I ran this through the quadrants. Although although the sex and nudity gets a D because, you know, it is it's the 80s. It's no Charlie's Angels, Charlie's Angels. You know, I mean, even at that. Oh, eight plus.
JVL00:18:21Oh, I remember episode of Charlie's Angels where the three of them got locked in a sauna together. I'm telling you, that's a like 10 year old me was blacked out right now. It's good.
Vic00:18:33So this is a little disappointing, although obviously there's a lot of suggestions, you know, sexual content suggestion. Right. Action and violence is an A, man. There's all sorts of things going on that fight at the end. Fantastic. Rockets, lasers, lasers, but a limited. You know, Kit had limited lasers. Remember, he says, oh, we only have one shot left. So the laser generates.
JVL00:18:56We're almost out of lasers.
Vic00:18:57We're almost out of light. We're almost out of light. Okay.
JVL00:19:00That's how lasers work.
Vic00:19:02Duration, by the way, is an A, particularly because there's no commercials. This is a 45 minute show. So we had to sit through like 15 minutes worth for an hour for this.
JVL00:19:09That's why they had those buttons. Right. Every every before you went to commercial, you always got a little like vision, not just like a cliffhanger, but suddenly a shot, a two second. Shot of Kit and Goliath rushing at each other as if it's a preview for what's.
Vic00:19:24Oh, my gosh. It's so close. What's going to happen? Also, before every commercial break, the freeze frame is so fantastic. And and I give this the first of all the movies and things that we've rated so far. You know how I gave I think French Dispatch got an A plus plus plus. This gets the plot gets an A plus plus plus. This was so easy to understand. I had. And in case I forgot anything in the follow up, they rehash it. Again, in the beginning. So, like, that's why how Sonny was able to enjoy.
Sonny00:19:53Yeah, I was I was still able to follow most of it. You know what? There were there were a few things I didn't quite understand. Like, again, that lady, I is she you know, a mystery to me.
Vic00:20:02You know what? You missed Sonny is in the first part. They played Rolling Stones. Give me shelter. But they couldn't use. They did in the second part. Oh, with a guy's voice, though. They had a guy singing it. So it was somebody else covering. Give me shelter.
JVL00:20:17I wondered about that. And I thought to myself, they must have spent a ton of money for the rights to use this.
Vic00:20:22Yes, but there must be some sort of.
JVL00:20:23And then he's jumping Jack Flash again. So that's right.
Vic00:20:27But you couldn't use. But it would be even more expensive, I think, if you had the actual Mick Jack. Right. Right. And the same thing is, if you remember Bosom Buddies and the opening of the Tom Hanks, Peter Scolari sitcom, the opening is My Life from Billy Joel. And it sort of really made it famous for me as a kid. Like, oh. Oh, and then I knew that was a Billy Joel song. It is not Billy Joel singing it, though. If you go to YouTube and do like Bosom Buddies opening, it is not Billy Joel.
JVL00:20:59Yeah, that's funny.
Vic00:21:00So it's a similar thing. It's very interesting.
JVL00:21:03So there's a funny, you know, you wonder how something like this gets made. Yeah. And the answer is that, you know, in the in the eighties, these shows were all very producer driven and they were producers who had formula. Right. Who was the Stephen Jay Canal? Remember at the end of every Stephen Jay Canal? That's right. It's the guy sitting at the typewriter, throwing the paper, float down into the big C. That's right. So this Knight Rider was the brainchild of Glenn Larson, Glenn Larson of Buck Rogers in the 21st century, Glenn Larson of the Fall Guy, Battlestar Galactica, Magnum PI, Magnum PI. Right. And so that's like Glenn Larson, his story is very funny. He comes up basically as a fifties boy band member, you know, he's in one of these little pop surf play boy bands. He's, you know, they're featured in the movie Gidget. Then he starts writing for TV and he gets a breakout hit with a series called Alias, Smith and Jones. And this is everything you need to know about, about Glenn Larson in 1969. Uh, William Goldman writes and has made into a movie directed by Walter Hill, Butch Cassidy and Sundance kid, absolute masterpiece of a movie goes on to win like every Oscar in 1970 and in 1971, we get Alias, Smith and Jones, which is a Western kind of comedy about two outlaw bros who are just trying to go straight, but can never quite make it happen. And this sets Glenn Larson on his, his path to riches. And he goes like, you know, so he's a Mormon Battlestar Galactica is, is done as a big Mormon thing. And then they are able to get the, they feel like they've got rocket fuel because Star Wars comes out and becomes huge. And so they just stick star into the name of Battlestar Galactica. It was originally going to be called something else going, you know, got Adam, Adam's Ark, Adam's Ark, right? Got a got a star. And so this, the Knight Rider becomes his last show for Universal when he is producing at Universal. So he's up with his contract at Universal and is about to decamp to Fox where he's going to hang out as producing shingle. And so he comes up with Knight Rider and as they're doing production design, he's like, I want, I want the, I want the car to have something visual. Like it looks like a heartbeat. Production designers like, well, I could put a, a lead right, a red light moving back and forth over the, the hood or something. Kind of like the Cylons and Glenn Larson goes, yeah, do it. And that's how all of this, all of this stuff is just the most derivative. You can
Vic00:24:02almost hear that Cylon noise again. None of
JVL00:24:06these people are artists at this point. Network television is pure commerce, absolute pure commerce. And, uh, and that's why you have this. And the difference between the era, you know, the golden age of prestige TV and, and Knight Rider is that prestige tele television is not being run by Glenn Larson's right. Just, just producers who are there making a buck because they've, you know, hopped around through the entertainment industry and finally found a formula to make some money. The, you have people who are artists who are pitching stories to tell with ideas.
Sonny00:24:49Well, well, uh, yes and no. I mean, uh, in, in the world of, you know, uh, in the world of like regular TV, in the world of network TV, right? You still have your Chuck Lorreys.
JVL00:25:05Oh yeah. We're still like the guys who do all the CSIs and that's, I am telling you now you laugh and you think that this Knight Rider stuff is, oh, nobody acts like that anymore. You go put on
Vic00:25:19something that we don't watch into nine o'clock
JVL00:25:22PM on a Tuesday night on CBS or Fox and you watch whatever dumb fucking show they've got.
Vic00:25:28Not the reality show, but the Los Angeles
JVL00:25:31nine one one or no, don't that. That's not true. Jennifer Love Hewitt's in that one. It's good. Those things are so bad that the difference between them and Knight Rider is this big. Jonathan is doing the very small like, you know, it is not for you know, and the yokels out in fly over country or whoever who are tuned into these things or the olds or whoever it is if I can watch this stuff still that's they're there for content. They're not there for art and and so it still happens. But the Golden Age TV was because you had HBO giving people like the Sopranos guy, right? Who made his
Sonny00:26:13bones on the Rockford files. And this is and where I think we're heading. I think we're heading
JVL00:26:18back. Netflix will eventually wind up exactly where CBS was in 1980 where
Vic00:26:24they're just why it is true because even even the movies that you have big names I mean think about the movies that we've been reviewing on Netflix and they're they're totally forgettable. They're totally forgettable. And they don't do
JVL00:26:37long series, right? Netflix will give you one maybe two seasons of a show but never more than three seasons because they don't want to get locked into paying afters more money.
Sonny00:26:47That's right. Yeah, it's after the third season that they have to really renegotiate. I think like the number of Netflix shows that have gone past season three you you can use somebody can look up the number somewhere but like I off the top of my head I can only think of like four or five series that have that have done it. Stranger Things, House of Cards, Orange is the New Black and after that a couple others. Yeah. Narcos I guess. Um. Ozarks. You
Vic00:27:14know you know what I did. Ozark. I checked the the the one back and and checked when it aired the original Knight Rider when it aired and the time slot which is really interesting and it was originally on Fridays on NBC from 9 to 10 there was a terrible show from 8 to 9 something like The Powers of Matthews. Dukes of Hazzard. No it wasn't I don't know they moved them around I guess and so this is an 82 to 82 to 83. They were on at the same time I believe. Right. I remember promotional
JVL00:27:52materials featuring both Kit and the
Vic00:27:55General Lee. Oh yeah no so that this is a 82 to 83 and on NBC they had a good lineup for Friday because it was Knight Rider from 9 to 10 and then 10 to 11 was Remington Steel. Oh Pierce Brosnan and who is
JVL00:28:11the female lead in that? I will tell you
Vic00:28:13it's Stephanie without I'm not checking anything. Stephanie Zimbalist. Zimbalist. Thank you. Thank you. The daughter of Ephraim. I think Ephraim Zimbalist the musician conductor. Oh yes. So and that's what it would be at 10 to 11 and then after that and after that time to go to bed good night everybody and then I switched to
JVL00:28:32channel 31. Well this this explains why I was able to see it though because it was Friday nights because I would not have been allowed to stay up for a 9 to 10
Vic00:28:40show on a school night. Yes yes yes and for me when I was younger from you I could stay up on a Saturday from 9 to 10 to watch the love boat but not 10 to 11 which is
JVL00:28:52Fantasy Island. Yeah I was another another little tidbit of this you know 80s tie together. Devon. Yes. The English gentleman who is the boss of the operation. Who got
Vic00:29:06roofied in the episode that's what happened. He was roofied. He got roofied. And did she have her way with him? We don't know
JVL00:29:11it's unclear. He he is always transported in a limousine a stretch limousine
Sonny00:29:18there's a Cadillac. As a kid what I always made that connection to was Ric
JVL00:29:24Flair. Ric Flair himself always traveled in a Cadillac limousine. That's right. And so did Devon. Yeah. I'm sure it's fine.
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