#73. 'The Matrix Resurrections'
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The Matrix Resurrections is the main event, and both Sonny and JVL tear it apart. Sonny's "big-boy review" lays out three core failures: the film's meta self-critique of corporate cash-grab sequels doesn't excuse it from being one; its plot (a mind-swap between Trinity and the new hacker Bugs, the analyst villain's scheme to harvest BTUs by keeping Neo and Trinity near-but-not-together) is incoherent; and its action is choppy, MCU-B-unit-level garbage next to the genuinely great set pieces of The Matrix and Reloaded — Sonny goes further, arguing the film is borderline morally irresponsible for centering a paranoid-schizophrenic hero's journey given that a real-life murderer once killed his parents believing he was trapped in the Matrix. JVL calls the Wachowskis "utter frauds" who've always mistaken their college-dorm philosophizing for the real reason The Matrix worked (bullet time and one all-time action sequence), and pronounces the whole project an act of contempt for the audience. Vic's Quadrant gives it Plot C, Duration D, Action/Violence B+ (plenty of action, but boring), and Sex/Nudity F — though he jokes he nearly bumped that last grade up given all the tentacle imagery. Box-office talk covers the film's soft third-place opening ($12M, a B-minus CinemaScore, likely hurt by its day-and-date HBO Max release) behind Sing 2 and a dominant Spider-Man: No Way Home ($84.5M). The long opening third is given over to JVL's new Oculus VR headset, a Christmas gift he wears on-air while describing watching The Dark Knight, Layer Cake, and other films from inside what he calls a private IMAX, a nostalgic Power Glove/NES Robot tangent, and Vic's story of a modernized, screen-and-YouTube-clip-filled Christmas Mass back home in New Jersey.
From the show notes
JVL watches The Matrix Resurrections from inside The Matrix. Sonny loses his shit. Vic has a religious experience.
Full transcript
Vic00:00:00Thomas, you seem particularly triggered right now, can you tell me what happened? I've had dreams that weren't just dreams. Am I crazy? We don't use that word in here. Hello and welcome to another edition of the Sub-Beacon. I'm Victor Matus along with Jonathan V. Last and Sonny Bunch. Just a reminder, the Sub-Beacon is now available through Patreon. Go to subbeacon.com, you'll easily find us. Please subscribe, tell your friends, and don't forget about the Sub-Beacon merchandise store at tpublic.com. Gentlemen, how are we? Oh boy, I'm about to ask, how was your Christmases? We might as well go to... JVL first since he's got something on his head. JVL, what's happening?
JVL00:01:07I'm gonna do the rest of the show from the metaverse. I have donned my Oculus VR goggles and I'm ready to rock.
Vic00:01:17What do you see right now, darkness?
JVL00:01:19No, right now I see a grayscale version of the room around me. I'm gonna put you on pause here. The reason I see a grayscale is because I was outside of my garden. Guardian boundary, which is the little idiot zone that it creates for you so that you don't walk into things and sue Mark Zuckerberg. And the minute you step outside of your guardian zone, it shuts off the video and lets you see what's happening so that you don't go running head first into a pillar or something.
Sonny00:01:48That's actually interesting. So it gives you a feed of what you would be seeing if you didn't have the Oculus on?
JVL00:01:56Yeah, because the Oculus itself is covered in cameras on the external. I was going to say, how are you? Those are cameras. I see. Because I said, how can you see?
Vic00:02:04How does it show anything? Because it looks like it's all white.
JVL00:02:06Those are all camera feeds. And so what happens is you set the boundaries. When you put it on, you take your little controller and it's like you're spray painting a line around the floor of where everything is clear.
Sonny00:02:17It's like when you're training a dog and you put the little invisible fence up.
JVL00:02:22And then as you get close to the boundary when you're inside the Oculus, first you see the wall in front of you. You're sort of ghosted on top of whatever it is you're doing. And then as your hand touches the boundary, you'll get like a little red. It looks like you're going through the mirror in the Matrix. Like your hand goes through a red wall. And then if you move outside of it, it suddenly stops whatever you're doing and shows you a video feed of your surroundings. How disorienting is this? Zero disorienting. Oh, it's that good. Look, you guys know that I am—this is perfectly in line with my personality type. I am a bleeding-edge early adopter and also a tech skeptic. So I always run out and buy the new thing and then I hate it.
Sonny00:03:17Well, you grow to hate it. You find reasons to hate it. Yeah. And the way it's destroying society.
JVL00:03:24The Oculus is the first thing that I have used since an iPhone.
?00:03:29Yeah. And the way it's destroying society. The Oculus is the first thing that I have used since an iPhone. The Oculus is the first thing that I have used since an iPhone. The Oculus is the first thing that I have used since an iPhone. The Oculus is the first thing that I have used since an iPhone. The Oculus is the first thing that I have used since an iPhone. The Oculus is the first thing that I have used since an iPhone.
JVL00:03:29The Oculus is the first thing that I have used since an iPhone.
Sonny00:03:58Is that what this is for? You've had it for three days now.
JVL00:04:05I've used it for three days, a little bit here and there. So the idea was, again, we were just going to dick around with Darth Vader, the Darth Vader game. That was the entire idea behind this. I have not yet used any of the games. What I have used it for...
Sonny00:04:22Does it come loaded with games? No, you have to purchase the games. Is the Darth Vader game in the headphones? Or in the headset when you get it?
JVL00:04:29No, you have to purchase it. And you can purchase it either using your phone, using the Oculus app, or from within the Metaverse, from your little dashboard. Do you have to find... And it just downloads right to... Over the interwebs. It downloads right into your headset. Question.
Sonny00:04:48How do you plug the Ethernet cable into the Oculus? No Ethernet cable. To download the things.
Vic00:04:54No Ethernet cable.
Sonny00:04:55What? It's wireless?
Vic00:04:58Crazy. Do you have to be in a special sort of space so that you're not knocking things over? You have to clear out a room, an area of your house?
JVL00:05:05It says that it really wants you to have like six feet by six feet of clear space. It says do not, under any circumstances, ever take it outside.
Vic00:05:16I was going to say, what a tempting thing to be is just to go outside.
JVL00:05:20It is, but the reason is because the photo sensors from the external camera will... If those little cameras, you get sun in there and it will fry the lenses because the expensive part of it is the lenses inside. Interesting. But here's what I want to talk about for the purposes of our show. You can stream your Amazon Prime account. You can stream your Netflix account. And while HBO Max does not support the Oculus currently, what you can do is download the Firefox app. Download the Firefox web browser and then log into HBO Max through the web browser and watch HBO Max content on it. And I am telling you guys, this is already my favorite way to watch movies.
Vic00:06:13So what is it like when you're watching? Content. I'm picturing. I don't care. I'll do it on my phone. I'm picturing like the old viewfinder that you're looking in this thing. What does it look like? Do you feel like you're in it? Are they on either side of it? No. I'm just looking at it. It's like a movie theater.
JVL00:06:28It is. It is like a movie theater. These apps create a movie theater like city. So if you turn while you're watching the movie, if you turn to the right, you just see an empty row of chairs. Okay. Like you're in a movie theater, right?
Vic00:06:39If you. They've created a chairs. They've created a theater.
JVL00:06:42It is literally. It's a whole theater.
Vic00:06:44And you're the only person in it.
JVL00:06:45So crazy. And you are sitting in the perfect seat. I was like your dream come true. You're the exact right distance. You're in the dead set middle. And so here's the thing. The difference between. So wild. This is a very, very high level flat panel of television. The color depth, the contrast and the clarity, what was the word I'm looking for? The definition, right? Is all much, much higher. The sharp is all much higher on your OLED, right? The Oculus is far behind in resolution, far behind in colors. Like it really does not handle color very well. And the blacks are not great or anything like that. But the immediacy of it, by which I mean the sense of you feel like you're sitting in front of a damn IMAX screen overwhelms all of those deficiencies and I think it's better. So I put on The Dark Knight, right? Just to see, so what is the opening IMAX sequence in it feel like? It feels like you're sitting in an IMAX theater watching The Dark Knight.
Vic00:07:51So you basically become Nicole Kidman at the AMC. Promo.
JVL00:07:55It's, I mean, I'm telling you, it is amazing. Yeah. Now I know that, so Sonny was busting my stones about this saying, you know, are you feeling nauseous? Yeah. Yeah.
Vic00:08:07Yeah. How about when you take it off? You're like, whoa, wait a minute. I'm back in the real world again.
JVL00:08:11When you take it off, you're like, man, this place sucks.
Vic00:08:16Put it back on quick.
JVL00:08:18The, uh, there, there is one real deficiency, which is that I found that after about. Two real deficiencies, I should say after about an hour of watching movie content, meaning again, not like TV episodes, not, not watching whatever, you know, uh, be, uh, not watching Knight Rider, which is gonna be the bonus show this week. Uh, but after watching an hour of it, I felt like my eyes were a little tired. If that makes sense and I, I then had to switch over to, to normal TV.
Sonny00:08:51Do you think that's a function of the closeness or the. The lack of, uh, the fact that it's, you know, 10 80 instead of 21 60 or even.
JVL00:08:58I don't know the answer to that. That's a, that's a very good question. All I could think of was in, in astronomy. So when you're doing telescope stuff, uh, they talk about lenses having what they call eye relief, which there's a complicated physics explanation for how this works, which somebody smarter could give you, but it basically means like as you're sitting, staring into the eyepiece, uh, you can stare at it longer without your eye getting tired and you got to pull off of it. And I think that may have to do with something like this, cuz your, your eyes are quite close to these lenses. But the other problem I had is I really, I wanted to sample a wide variety of content. And so just to see how it all felt. And so I, I went right to layer cake, layer cake was fantastic on it. I noticed things that I've never noticed before. Like for instance, in the opening montage as the Duke, you see the Duke and his gang walking through the streets of Amsterdam for the first time. The Duke's girlfriend, uh, is drinking a, what I had thought was a beer, but is in fact a chauffeur huffer. What? I'd never noticed that before.
Vic00:10:04Yeah. Well, she is a woman. Yes.
JVL00:10:07Go ahead. Uh, I, I watched the dark night. Uh, again, just like, you know, I'm just looking for little clips of it to see how it played and how it felt. And that looked fantastic. And again, just way a better experience. Oh, wait a minute.
Vic00:10:21Yeah. Put it, put it. Okay. Put, uh, put, let me see. There's, uh, you're right. Okay. All right. So what about, uh, okay. Well, your ears are on the outside, right? Your ears on this side.
JVL00:10:31So where's the sound come from? So they, you can do it with wireless headphones if you want, but they'd also, it has speakers in it that, you know, are giving somebody who's around, you can hear it, but it's not
Vic00:10:42crazy loud. You really need to take a picture of the sunny, but the sound is quite good. Quite good.
JVL00:10:50He hasn't gotten his phone out, but, uh, no, so, but I want to tell you, so the, uh, the beginning of empire strikes back amazing, uh, the opening bank heist in dark night. Amazing. I, uh, I went and I put on a stick it and I started to feel a little, a little woozy.
Vic00:11:16Can you see your virtual hands in motion in the, like in.
JVL00:11:20Only if you're holding, only if you're holding the controller, if you're holding the controller,
Vic00:11:24you see the controller Bobby enhanced looking because it would be like, look better than you actually.
JVL00:11:29Yeah. And then, then I put on wild things and I was fine until about the 48 minute mark. And then all of a sudden I felt like I was blacking out.
Vic00:11:37That might not have anything to do with the Oculus.
JVL00:11:40Although I don't know why that effect happened, but, uh, but I plan to do a lot more research into this and see if there is some reason.
Vic00:11:49When you're looking around, when you're looking around in, in, in this theater mode and you look around and you say, you turn your left, you see seats, do you see any part of yourself? No. Like if you look down, do you see your legs, you see if you put your hand in front of you?
JVL00:12:02No.
Vic00:12:03Oh, okay. But certain games, obviously, but just not, uh, I don't know.
JVL00:12:06I, again, I haven't, I haven't done any of the games, all I'm using is a content delivery device.
Sonny00:12:12Okay. Do you, so do you have to, do you have to keep your head perfectly still while you're watching? Do you like kind of like prop back?
JVL00:12:18You could do whatever the hell you want.
Sonny00:12:19But I mean like, but in terms of like how it, how it changes, how the screen looks,
JVL00:12:25it will center the screen and whatever position you put your head.
Sonny00:12:29Hmm. But I'm saying like, can w all right, so let's say the answer is yes, you could lie flat
JVL00:12:34on your bed and have the Oculus put the screen as if it's, if we're on the ceiling.
Sonny00:12:40No, but I mean, uh, no, but I mean like then when you move, so if you sat up after
JVL00:12:45that, would it, it would be, it would not be on, so, so you would have to just tell
?00:12:49it to rest.
JVL00:12:49Re-center. There's all, you can always re-center what you're looking at. There's a button click for that so that you're, you're not locked into a single position. You guys are going to think I'm crazy. This is intriguing. I'm intrigued.
Sonny00:13:01I'm intrigued.
Vic00:13:02I don't think you're crazy. I'm pretty cool. I've done, I've done V primitive VR before, you know, but it sounds like, this is still makes this JVL. Who makes this Facebook? Oh, it's meta. Is it meta or is it actually, does it actually say Facebook on the side or it doesn't say
JVL00:13:16anything on Oculus. Yeah. Believe me, they don't want to advertise. That is Facebook. But uh, I w I will say that this, you can see like with the first iPhone, which was not 3g, you can see all of the flaws and where it's not quite good enough yet for, for real mass adoption, but you can also see how the next gen version of this is likely to be really, really good.
Sonny00:13:43I mean, do we think the killer app is gaming more than, than like movie watching? Or virtual meetings or, or what?
JVL00:13:51I think looking at this, I have not done sport live sports on it, but I will, because one of the apps you can do is sling. So I am at some point going to pop sling in and, uh, just watch a football game on it to see what it looks like. That's weird. Uh, I think the killer app is probably content delivery, but what's funny is that people seem to think of this as a gaming first piece of technology. And I think that is far too limited. I don't think that is the, that is the best use case for it.
Vic00:14:25Now, when you, when you're watching and you say it's like a theater, do you actually, do you physically feel like you are not in your home anymore? You are in this place. I mean, you're able to fool yourself.
JVL00:14:36The immersion is total and the, if it really does, it, the clarity and the, the screen looks amazing and the effect it has. Has of watching it is the same effect as if you were sitting in a theater watching the movie. Hmm.
Vic00:14:57I'd say that sounds like equal parts, intriguing and scary.
JVL00:14:59Uh, I, I, I would say this, Vic, if you came over to my house and you put this on and you watched, I don't think they make it, I don't think Mark Zuckerberg made it big enough for my head. I may not. Uh, people who wear glasses. Oh yeah. What about people who wear glasses? So there's all sorts of stuff in this with, to, to help. To make it work for with glasses, there's like a special piece that you put in if you're wearing glasses. I don't know how that would work with somebody wearing glasses, especially somebody wearing
Sonny00:15:27bifocals.
JVL00:15:28Oh, I, I don't, it might not be great.
Vic00:15:31I might be going to a theater, it'd be like going to a theater, but without my glasses. Um, I did one of these, um, I took my son, this is gosh, over the summer, I must've been over the summer, I guess. And uh, we went to the army museum near, not far from you, um, near, uh, Bellevue. Right? Yeah. The US Army Museum. And they have a virtual reality thing there, which is, oh, let's try this out. There was nobody there, which was great. And they have all these really cool stuff. You know, Higgins boat from, you know, um, D-Day and, and, and a tank that, a real tank that was in Bastogne and stuff like that. And they do a virtual reality thing. You put it on and it's a tank game. I felt nauseous, first of all, because you're going up and down these hills in the snow. But the second thing is, you know, you can't wear glasses on the virtual reality thing. So it's on my head and I'm just, I'm looking at a blurred landscape, hoping that I'm firing in the right direction because I'm blind as a bat. So that's an interesting thing. Like what kind of adjustments they will make for that.
JVL00:16:26So Apple has their own headset in development and what they are choosing to do, at least for the first generation of this, they, they haven't moved to final production. There's still what's called the architecture stage of development. Uh, they have not been able to get the headset light enough to accommodate. Glasses. Yeah. So instead they're going to have it so that if you wear glasses, you can get a prescription
Vic00:16:55lens for the Oculus.
JVL00:16:59So it, it, you know, so it, the lens latches over the little mini screen like, like my,
Vic00:17:05like prescription sunglasses, which are very well, this was, this was like, this was the,
Sonny00:17:10uh, this was always the kind of hopeful end goal for 3d for glass wearers was that like 3d would be so popular that people would get essentially 3d sunglasses that were also that like 3d glasses that were also sunglasses. So like, I think it was Luxottica, the parent company of Ray ban offered these, right? Like they were, they were 400 or 500 bucks, something like that. And you could, you could wear, it w it was like sunglasses, but also 3d glasses. You just go straight into the theater and watch it in 3d. But obviously those never took off since 3d sucks and is dead. Yeah.
Vic00:17:48Um, there's still a few theaters where you scroll down and there's a 3d option.
Sonny00:17:52Every once in a while, there's a 3d option and I always look at those screens and they are empty.
Vic00:17:56Nobody's going to say, you know, even, even pre, even pre pandemic, I never felt comfortable putting those things on hot and sweaty and whatnot, you know, you don't, you don't trust
JVL00:18:07them to fully decontaminate them between the way that AMC runs their theaters. I'm certain those things are run through the, what is it? The autoclave, right? The autoclave, which is the, that sanitizes surgical instruments at the hospital. Oh, they use that. They have that. They have that at AMC. Nicole Kidman does it herself. I am sorry to have hijacked the first 20 minutes of this stupid show with VR talk, but I like,
Sonny00:18:31I thought it was real. I thought it was great. I mean, it puts, it puts my, my best Christmas, I got a pair. I got, I got a pair of status, uh, active noise cancellation headphones. They're like wireless noise canceling ones. And those are great too. Like the Oculus. There's a setting where if you put your hand on the side of it, it turns off the noise cancellation and turns on the ambient noise in the room. So you can hear everything. Which is cool. It's great. It's like really cool. But yeah. Anyway, not as cool as an Oculus, fuck.
JVL00:19:00You know what though? The Oculus is not expensive. That's the other thing. It is cheap enough to buy just to screw around with, even if you're not going to use it all the time.
Sonny00:19:09How, how much is it? I think it's 250 bucks.
Vic00:19:11Oh, that's not, yeah. That's not bad.
JVL00:19:13I mean, it is, it is. But honestly, you could just get it on a lark.
Vic00:19:20It's it's not. How, how much was the Atari 2600 when it first came out? Right. That's. I bet it was, bet it was more than 20, 50 bucks. Plus for the, yeah.
Sonny00:19:28Inflation and whatnot. Oh yeah. My, I, I'm pretty sure my parents spent either 300 or like $350 on an NES with like the, the gun and the mat. That's a lot.
JVL00:19:39And the robot. Did you get the robot? No, we did not. We did not have the robot. No, I had the robot.
Sonny00:19:44We did not have the robot. Never used it once. The gun and the mat, which we use for exactly one game. There was like a, you know, world track fitness or some, some nonsense. Uh, but yeah, that was, I mean, that was $350 in 1988 or whatever.
JVL00:19:57As an 11 year old, I bought the robot without having any idea what it did, but I thought that the robot was going to play the computer games against me and that the robot was going to have his own controller and that he would be pressing the buttons. I didn't ever realize that all he was going to do is like pick up a gyroscope. Make it spin and then drop it to push a button stupidest, the stupid, the NES robot, the dumbest thing. Well, I was boy was little JBL disappointed.
Sonny00:20:25This is after my time. What was dumber, the robot or the power glove?
JVL00:20:30Robot dumber. Power gloves. Pretty, pretty dumb, but I almost got sucked into it. Did you buy one?
Sonny00:20:35Oh no, no. Cause I saw, I remember seeing, I remember seeing it in the store and thinking, wow, that was cool. And then I saw the movie, the wizard and it was just the, the guy was like using it on his, on his hand. And I was like, wait, that's the dumbest thing I've ever seen.
Vic00:20:48What does the glove do?
Sonny00:20:51It was like, it was like you would put the glove on, but then you could like only use the control in one hand. Like you would, you'd have to like, it was idiotic. It was idiotic is what it was.
Vic00:21:02Ah, anyway. How are you boys? Merry Christmas. Everybody. Good Christmas. Lovely. Lovely. Uh, I was up in Jersey and uh, uh, went to see my dad. He's doing great. And my sister and her family. Then, uh, we went to church with my dad one morning and their church. And you've seen, you've been to this church JVL and it's big. They have these now, they've had it for some time now, uh, these giant screens on either side of these enormous, like movie screens on either side of the altar where they can project lyrics to songs and then the prayer prompts. So really they never have to buy miscellance again. I'm always picturing whoever sold them to the church. You're going to love these. You'll never have to buy books again. You know, you can just read your prayer responses on the big screen and it has these lovely images of chalice and bread and whatnot in the middle of this question. Yes. Jay.
?00:21:58Yes.
Sonny00:21:59Sunny. I don't understand any of this. Okay.
Vic00:22:03You're going to, well, a real church church does not need movie screens. Okay. Because you just go there to worship. These screens are there. Okay.
JVL00:22:14Like Jesus with his cord of whips overturning the money chain. Did you just take the screens and knock them over?
Vic00:22:21Okay. It gets worse. So before mass ends, before mass, before mass ends, uh, you know, right before they say the masses ended, the priest, uh, says, well, uh, you know, you know, before we go out, let's remember about the, you know, getting into the spirit and, and, and, and the kindness of kids. And let's take a look at this clip. And they played. It's a YouTube video, like America's funniest home videos, you know, like this, like something that he found on the internet. And it's like this little kid who's giving his older brothers and sisters cups of water. And then you see where the kid goes and he's going into the bathroom and getting the water out of the toilet. And it's hilarious. Everyone's laughing. Oh, this is amazing body of Christ.
Sonny00:23:06I have to say I was, I was skeptical that the Pope wanted to get rid of the Latin mass, but hearing now what happens at the Latin mass, this sounds like. I'm joking.
Vic00:23:15I'm joking.
JVL00:23:16I know. I know.
Sonny00:23:18I know.
Vic00:23:19This is very post Vatican II. This is like beyond. This is like Vatican III. Is this a new pastor, Vic? He's an, he's an Indian fellow. He's been there for a couple of years. He's been there for a couple of years, but this thing is been there, new for the last, I don't know, the last couple of years. And I, I'm, you know, you want to ask the pastor, are you really cool with this? Here's the other thing. He showed two videos. So as if the first one wasn't enough, the second one was like two martini glasses. One has water, one is gin. And it's like something he found on like, you know, YouTube and you know, the, the one where you, uh, you see a person put their fingers around the rim and it makes that humming noise on the water. And then he does the same thing on the martini glass. And instead Mariah Carey's all I want for Christmas is you comes out and some of the congregants are clapping.
JVL00:24:09Just be glad that he's not sharing some of the research he's been doing on Facebook independently. You know, like I found some really interesting videos. Yeah. There's a lot of bad out there. There's a lot of bad out there. I've been doing some research.
Vic00:24:23It was so, it's so, and it's like, Hey, it's a big party because that's why you go there for the show. I need to be entertained. I must be entertained. That's why I'm there. When in fact, as you know, JVL we're there, you know, to celebrate obviously the birth of Christ and his death and his resurrection. Speaking of which over the weekend. Oh, the matrix resurrections came in third place.
Sonny00:24:48Thank you.
Vic00:24:49Thank you Sonny. It took a lot to get to that one. Came in third place at the box office with 12 million behind sing two with 22.3 million. And in first place, Spider-Man no way home with a web tingling 84 and a half million dollars box office thoughts.
JVL00:25:08That's a great hold for Spider-Man. Isn't it Sonny?
Sonny00:25:13Yeah. It's down. It's down 67%, which is not a great hold, but there are so many different things to look at here. I mean, first off the Friday of the weekend was December 24th and Christmas Eve is notoriously one of the absolute worst days of the body. Like Christmas day itself is generally a very good day, but Christmas Eve is a terrible day. So having one of the three days be Christmas Eve was going to ding it pretty badly anyway. 67% is a big drop, but it's 67% down from 260 million or whatever.
JVL00:25:49Yeah. It's already- Possible hold.
Sonny00:25:52I think that's pretty impressive. It's a solid hold. I mean, it's not a disaster. It's not amazing. But the movie right now, we're taping this on Wednesday and I was just looking it up. We have box office numbers through, we have estimated data as of, I don't know, what is this? Yeah. So that's, hold on. I'm just- Today's the 29th. Today's the 29th. Right, right. So we have estimated data as of yesterday. It's at 520 million domestic, or 516 million domestic, 520 million would be a two times multiple off the first weekend already. So I mean, it's making a shitload of money. It's going to be up there in Black Panther territory at least, if it doesn't quite get up to... Episode seven, The Force Awakens. It's doing huge, huge business. It's making a ton of money. I would say it is sucking up a lot of the oxygen from everything else, but you could look at... If we want to talk about The Matrix Resurrections as box office, which was not particularly good. I mean, that is because in part, it's up against the fact that it's also on HBO Max. I don't know where you guys watched the movie this weekend. I watched it. Him sing too. Same audience.
JVL00:27:13Same audience people. I want to see him sing too.
Sonny00:27:17Sing too. Cannibalizing it. Sing too is doing fine, I guess, at 22 million. The big story is Spider-Man No Way Home, and it's doing enormous, enormous business. It's $1.2 billion, whatever. It's the highest grossing film since Frozen 2 in 2019. I mean, it's just doing huge, huge business.
Vic00:27:38I wanted to take my dad and Kate. Yeah, and the kids to see, because he'd love it, and the kids wanted Kate to see it when I was up in Jersey. Sold out everywhere. I couldn't get it.
Sonny00:27:53You couldn't get it. The kids wanted Kate to see it? They wanted to take their mom to go see the Spider-Man movie?
Vic00:27:58You got to see this movie.
JVL00:27:59It's that good. That is- G-Money is the same way. G-Money wants to take the entire family with them.
Vic00:28:03That's interesting. Everybody else has to come to see it. You must see it with me. Sonny does- But he couldn't.
JVL00:28:08But he couldn't skip to 50.
Vic00:28:11No, I don't think it does.
JVL00:28:15How did it even get to, what, 22? 22. I mean, 22 over- How did it even get to 22?
Sonny00:28:20Well, that's 22 over five days, over the three days. Yeah, the weekend. I think it's like-
JVL00:28:25The weekend is 12.
Sonny00:28:26It's like 12 over 13. The weekend is 12. Yeah. I mean, if it gets to 50, I would be surprised, but look, I said that this was going to happen. Anecdotally- Excuse me. I heard from several people who canceled their tickets who were like, "I'm not going out in Omicron. It's on HBO Max. I'm just going to watch it. I'm just going to watch it at home." So, I think that had a pretty big impact on it. I think that had a pretty big impact, but also just like it's up against the biggest movie of the last four years.
JVL00:29:03Does the fact that it's a piece of dog shit matter? Wow. That doesn't- We'll get to that in a second.
Sonny00:29:11As always, the dog shittedness of a movie does not matter on opening weekend. Well- It really doesn't.
JVL00:29:18Yeah, look at Eternals. It does, but also there's ... Audiences hated the third Matrix movie, and sequels often are treated in the same way that people thought about the movie previous. That's right. They get punished.
Vic00:29:35Sins of the father. Or rewarded.
Sonny00:29:37Right. Punished or rewarded. Audiences did not hate Revolutions as much as they hated Resurrections. Cinema score for Revolutions was a B. Cinema score for Resurrections was a B minus. So it is ... Ooh. This is not- That's hard, isn't it? That's a very tough score on a much anticipated sci-fi big budget sequel. You don't see that a ton. B, B plus would be about as low as you're usually going to see with this sort of movie. But Audiences hated it because it is a piece of dog shit. One big takeaway from this.
Vic00:30:13Sonny, so obviously we're talking about Matrix Resurrections this week. How about a big boy review?
Sonny00:30:21The Matrix Resurrections. The Matrix Resurrections. So the Matrix Resurrections, the first 10 minutes or so of this film involve a new hacker named Bugs, as in Bunny, trying to rescue weird Morpheus, as I will call him, for the rest of this review.
JVL00:30:41Oh, they can do that because it's Warner Brothers and they own the intellectual property to Bugs Bunny.
Sonny00:30:46We're going to get to all that. We're going to get to all that. So the first 10 minutes of this movie is basically a new Trinity breaking free ascension program from a modal. What's a modal, you ask? Great question. It's a tech term, something about a loop in the system. I don't know. The whole first hour of this film is essentially live. Lana Wachowski and writers David Mitchell and I forget who the third guy's name is. Maybe JBL can effort that for me. Basically sticking it to Warner Brothers, basically saying, "We are only here to make this corporate cash grab movie because Warner Brothers wants us to make a corporate cash grab movie." It's very meta. It's very meta.
Vic00:31:31They make a Warner Brothers reference in the movie, don't they?
Sonny00:31:34They literally make a Warner Brothers reference, so the basic setting here is that Neo is once again Thomas Anderson. Thomas Anderson has always been Thomas Anderson, and he made a trilogy of video games, the Matrix trilogy, the original Matrix trilogy, all three movies of which were beloved by everyone. They're the most acclaimed series in the whole world, and nobody has ever said anything negative about the Matrix trilogy. Video game of the video games. Video game. Video game, right. It's the most beloved thing in the world, and Warner Brothers wants to sully that artistic triumph. It's that monument to excellence that included the Matrix revolutions by making a fourth film. I'm sorry, fourth video game. Yeah, absolutely. It's not a fourth video game. And this brings me to problem number one with this movie. Problem number one with this movie is that by doing all of this, by trying to say, "Hey, we're aware we're a corporate cash grab, but we're actually critiquing the whole nature of corporate cash grab." Franchises and sequels, that makes it very clever and actually makes it better than other corporate cash grabs. No, I'm sorry. It does not. It does not. In my review, I quoted from a friend of ours, Carlos Lozado, who had a great tweet a couple years back that I think about all the time when I'm writing, the gist of which is, "Just putting proverbial in front of a cliche does not excuse you from using the cliche, it just calls attention to it." It calls attention to the fact that you are not only using a cliche, but you know that you are lazily using a cliche. You're out of ideas. And that is the whole first hour of this movie. It is a lazy effort to undermine the criticism that this is nothing but a lazy cash grab by Lana Wachowski and Warner Brothers.
JVL00:33:29Question.
Sonny00:33:30Yes.
JVL00:33:31So you said that this first hour is Lana Wachowski and her fellow screenwriters, the other, which is Aleksandar Hemon, them sticking it to Warner's did, did Warner's like have a gun to her head?
Sonny00:33:52I, there, there is, there's some, there's some talk that this would have a fourth matrix movie would have happened with or without Lana Wachowski or Lily Wachowski, uh, partaking in the, the events. So in theory. Uh, kind of kind, I mean, uh, it's either like do it or we're going to do it without you. Okay. So they did it and they, and they, and they made it, uh, the, you know, is supposedly as an FU to Warner brothers.
JVL00:34:20So please take our money or we'll give our money to somebody else.
Sonny00:34:25Take our $185 million to make a giant piece of shit, please.
JVL00:34:28I mean, it sounds, it sounds like, um, terrorism really.
Sonny00:34:32So anyway. Okay. So that's, that's problem. Number one, problem. Number two, is it narratively speaking? The movie is just incoherent. I like, I defy anyone to explain the sequence of events and spoilers. There's going to be spoiled. I'm just going to be talking about what happens in this dumb fucking movie. So spoilers. Uh, I defy anyone to explain to me the sequence of events that takes place when Priyanka Chopra is a mind melding with Ravuka, the, you know, whatever the, whatever that dumb robots name is. Uh, one, when they're kind of flipping the brains in between, uh, Trinity's body and bugs and they're putting bugs, his mind goes into Trinity. I explained diagram that sequence for me. I def I, I demand the people explain it to me.
Vic00:35:23Vic. So it was kind of like being John Malkovich is what's happening there. She just didn't have it in her mind. Something like that.
Sonny00:35:30Uh, okay. So that's, that's, that's the second big problem here. Um, I mean like, again, like the, the, the real. Like the, the whole plot of this movie is the matrix, uh, w w was going to collapse because not enough people wanted to be in the matrix. So there were resource wars between the robots. And finally somebody figured out that the analyst, the Neil Patrick Harris character, if you've seen the trailers figured out that the only way that they could generate enough
JVL00:35:57electricity was to have Neo and Trinity in the matrix, but near each other, but not together,
Sonny00:36:04but near each other, but not together because that creates. More BTUs, I guess, because that's what they're harvesting from people. They're harvesting BTU in the, it's not, it's not, it's not the, it's not brain activity that they're harvesting. They're harvesting body heat. That's all they're harvesting that along with it. Remember from the first one, uh, a type of nuclear fusion, which is doing a lot of heavy lifting in that whole explanation in the first one, body heat plus nuclear fusion, whatever. Okay. Um, so, uh, so none of this makes any sense. It doesn't make any sense. The movie doesn't make any sense. Even even you could have a movie that is a dumb, uh, meta critique that doesn't stand on its own. That doesn't make any sense plot wise. That doesn't make any sense narratively. Even in, even with all that, if the fight scenes were good, if this had some good memorable action that actually, you know, may that, that caught your eye and kept your attention and made you want to keep watching it. I could forgive all of that. I could forgive all that because these are at heart action movies, say what you will about reloaded, but reloaded is one of, I, it's one of my, I think it's one of the five or six best, uh, pure action movies of the two thousands, the whole hour that starts with the burly brawl and ends with Trinity being pulled, uh, or I'm sorry, Morpheus being pulled off that. That big rig is one of the most thrilling stretches of cinema just ever, um, fine. This movie does not. Have that this movie, this movie, the action in this movie looks like it was shot by a B unit. It looks like it was shot by a Marvel cinematic universe B unit, and it is choppy, borderline incoherent, but certainly nothing worth watching and nothing to write home about. There's just, there's just nothing. There's nothing to the action. There's, there's a moment in this film that is meant to echo the Chateau fight from matrix reloaded. The Merovingian shows up again, right? And he's got a bunch of exiles. And they're fighting with people in what is a, essentially an abandoned warehouse. And if you compare the Chateau fight to that scene, just go shot by shot and compare it. It would make you cry because it is so ugly. This new stuff, this new movie is so ugly and it's so, it's so annoying to watch and it's just, I can, they can do better than this. And I've seen people argue like, oh, well it's, it's an ugly action scene because they wanted to show that franchises. They're always uglier than their predecessors there. They never look better. They always look worse. They always look cheap. And I'm sorry, maybe that's the point, but making somebody a shit sandwich and feeding it to them is still a shit sandwich. They're still going to be eating shit. Like don't feed the audience shit. I, that's not, I don't think that's, I don't think that's too much to ask. So it fails. It fails on that level too, and I, there's a point I made in my review that I kind of peddled because I don't want to, I don't want to come across as a scold and I have a complicated, I have very complicated thoughts on this because I do think that I do think, I think that you, you cannot blame an artist for the way a deranged person reacts to their art. But if you, if you are the makers of the matrix, if you are one of the directors and writers of the original matrix, a movie that literally go watch the documentary. A glitch in the matrix, which is in part about a guy who, uh, watched the movie so many times that drove him crazy. And he killed his adopted parents because he thought he was in the matrix. He thought he was, he thought he was actually trapped in a computer simulation and that Neo and Trinity were real and that he had to break out of it to free his mind. And to do that, he had to kill his parents. If you made a movie, you made a movie that appealed to the schizoid mind in that way, I would be very, very happy. I would be very hesitant to do something like have as the main villain in your fourth unnecessary sequel, uh, to, to this film that inspired a literal murder, I would be very, very hesitant to have that villain be a psychiatrist who was telling a paranoid schizophrenic not to take his drugs or I'm sorry, was trying to get, was trying to get a paranoid schizophrenic to take his drugs. And to have, to have that hero's journey begin by him refusing to take them and, and, and, and engage in gunplay and gunfire and self harm. I just, I think, I think it's, there's, there's a, there's a part of me that thinks this movie is deeply, deeply irresponsible, um, just on a social level there, there's a better chance this movie gets somebody killed than Joker, uh, was going to get somebody killed. Remember, remember all the talk about how Joker was going to get people killed and it's going to inspire violence and it was tapping into the uglier side of whatever. I mean, this is these Lana Wachowski is not unaware of these, these controversies in these, these arguments, the whole movie, the whole first hour of the movie is a kind of tongue and cheek, uh, riffing on some of the, you know, deeper reads on, on the matrix. There's no, there's no chance. They don't know that this movie inspired somebody to kill people and, and to, again, to, to take. All of that and to have the only real interesting visual image of this movie be the swarm mode, right? So there's, there's a thing in the movie where, uh, instead of having agents in the system, they have just have a bunch of bots and the art, the analyst can turn on the bots at any moment and they'll swarm on, you know, whoever, whoever needs to be killed it to take that kind of paranoid schizophrenic idea again of a, a hidden, uh, control trying people. People aren't real. They're, they're fake. They're trying to kill you. They're trying to control you. And to make that the central premise of the film, again, I just think it's, I think it's vaguely irresponsible. So I, this movie, I think this movie fails, this movie fails. I'm sorry. I mean, I've been ranting here. This movie fails on every aesthetic level and I think it fails on a moral level too. And I don't, I don't often say that about films, uh, cause I don't, I don't think that's really the critics place necessarily, but I think that this is, it's, it's, it's a borderline dangerous film.
Vic00:42:34So it's like Marion Cotillard's character as well in inception where she is absolutely convinced that she's in the dream and she's not in the dream.
Sonny00:42:42Well, that's, I mean, there was, yes, that's what happened in, in there's a person who really like thought they were in the matrix and they're like shot, shot his adoptive parents in the face.
Vic00:42:53Okay, here we go.
JVL00:42:54This has gotta be a C minus.
Vic00:42:57That's so funny. Cause I actually had C minus on there, but I brought it. Okay. So, um, the, the plot, I gave the plot. A C because I didn't know if it was better or worse, if it was me or if it was them. Cause keep in mind, I did not see, um, reloaded a revolutions. So I said, I don't know, maybe I'm just the one who's missing this, but I have no idea
JVL00:43:18what's going on here.
Vic00:43:20Duration is a D. This is a long movie. This was very long.
Sonny00:43:23It felt the longest in the series.
Vic00:43:24There you go. Action and violence is interesting. I initially gave it a B plus only because is there action and violence? Yeah, there's a lot of action, but it was boring. Boring action. I mean, it's like it would have been an a plus had I never seen these sequences before. I remember that opening or one of the opening scenes where, um, uh, with Canada, with, with Neo in, in, in resurrection and it just felt like he was doing the same, you know, where he wants them to, uh, uh, Morpheus, Morpheus, Morpheus, Morpheus, Morpheus is, is trying to challenge him to improve. But the whole thing is like, I feel like I've seen this before. And then by the time people are throwing themselves off buildings and using themselves. There's bombs. It's like, what's happening. You know, and again, it, everything's very dark and it's just sort of like thrown in there. Uh, but again, a lot of action, which just didn't find it really interesting. And sex nudity is an F this is an R rated movie, isn't it? And Carrie Ann Moss, she's, she's still pretty as a sort of a mom level thing. She's she's. Oh, don't give me that look. I'll give her the benefit of the doubt. And I guess we won't know, but you know, so that's how I felt about it. Uh, I. I have other thoughts, uh, obviously, uh, but, uh, and question, you know what though? I almost gave the sex new category. I almost gave it, um, an eight plus, cause there was a lot of tentacle action going on in this movie. There was a lot of tentacles. Did you notice that she gave me a lot of tentacles on Keanu and on, uh, on Trinity is just a lot going on everywhere. Not the good kinds of tentacles being stuck in every part of your body, except the obvious parts. That's what's crazy. Really? The chest. Really? Really? The back. Really? The back. Okay. Your head. All right. JVL.
JVL00:45:12Yeah. Were you excited? Were you excited about seeing this movie? No. Oh, no. I, I, I could not have had lower expectations. Um, you know, so here I am torn between whether this movie is a piece of art, which reveals the filmmaker to be bankrupt. Or reveals them to be contemptible because I watched it as if it was earnest. So I was not aware of the subplot where maybe Lana Wachowski is just trying to sabotage this project. So you have to give Warner the middle fingers that they can't make any more sequels because blah, blah, blah, you know, basically a Rian Johnson level, uh, long con. Where she has taken on this project to prevent Warner's from fucking up her perfect art. Uh, I was not aware of that. I assumed that this was all done earnestly as a piece of art, in which case I think it means that the Wachowski sisters slash brothers, whatever you want to call them, uh, are artistic frauds.
Sonny00:46:21They, well, no, it's, it's worth noting that only Lana is involved. Only Lana is involved in this lily.
JVL00:46:27There is, there is, you know, they, between them have had one good film. Um, it was the matrix and that's it and bound and everything, everything since that, uh, has been progressively worse, but also progressively worse in the same direction, which is this college dorm room level BS stroking off talking about philosophy philosophy that's, that's,
Vic00:47:01that's the first thing that came to my mind too, is like, I felt like in philosophy sophisticated
JVL00:47:05manner possible, the absolutely sophisticated manner possible. And you know, resurrections is, I think has sort of one vaguely interesting idea in it, which is the idea of programs and robots who decide they don't want to do the thing. You know, they, they wanna, the, the Morpheus is a program who wants to help the humans and there are some robots. They want to live with humans. And that is, that is, I guess, kind of an interesting concept and it is explained with a single line of dialogue, which is that, you know, they don't want to dominate.
Sonny00:47:43They just want to be free to the most, the most interesting thing in the movie is the idea of robot resource wars over like the, the, the diminished energy from human bodies. That's actually, I think that's actually kind. There's one shot of Niobe like watching this war happen and I'm like, oh, I would've watched that movie.
JVL00:48:02Well, but I'm, you know, like it also be interesting to know, how does it happen? If robots are now totally indistinguishable from people in the fact that they, they have free will and tastes and desires and all this, then the, the robot civilization cannot hold together. Right. That was their big advantage over the humans was that they were unthinking automatons who followed central direction. If this is no longer the, you know, all of these, that is actually a bigger question than the movie realizes. It just, it's incompetent. Everything about this film is incompetent. The action is incompetent. The storytelling is incompetent. Uh, the casting is incompetent. If you hire Jada Pinkett Smith that you can bury her under makeup instead of just hiring an older actress for the part, like who, who is she in that?
Sonny00:48:50Well, she was, she was in the original. I mean, she was Niobe. Right. Oh, she, you know what?
Vic00:48:55Oh, you're casting other people across it. That was Jada Pickett Smith as the old lady.
Sonny00:49:00Well, so they wanted, they had, they had actually wanted to hire, uh, Lawrence Fishburne and, um, uh, Hugo Weaving to reprise Morpheus and Agent Smith, but they couldn't because they were working. And I, I have to say, I actually, I actually liked Jonathan Groff who plays Smith and, um, Yaya Abdul-Mateen, uh, two, second, uh, who plays weird Morpheus, who is, who is I think the best part of the movie.
JVL00:49:28Yeah, no, I think he is the most interesting part of the movie, but you know, so Jonathan Groff, again, the, the, his character as the new agent Smith is, you know, he shows up with Neo and he says, look, I'm here cause I want to kill the, the, I want to kill Doogie Howser. Yes. And, and, uh, and, and I just want you to stay away while I kill Doogie Howser. And Neo's like, well, I just want to get Trinity, but I guess we have to fight each other.
Vic00:49:55What?
JVL00:49:56You guys have goals, which are, which are. Which are separate, uh, and in fact, complimentary. And instead you're like, none of the, none of this makes sense. And then the constant use of flashbacks to actual footage from the earlier movies is just.
Sonny00:50:19It just reminds you how much better they are.
JVL00:50:20Not even that, it's just, it's just, it is, it is proof that Lana Wachowski cannot tell the story on her own. She has to bring in actual. Actual footage from other movies as a crutch to tell the story for her, because she is not capable of conveying those emotions and those ideas with new things. And there, if you have not seen this movie, there is a lot of flashback. Yeah. A lot.
Vic00:50:46I found that helpful. Oh yes.
JVL00:50:48So anyway, so all of this, I thought to myself, okay, so this is the Wachowskis are, are frauds. But if it's, if it's the fact that this is some sort of. You know, grand performance art piece where, in which she destroys the, the object that Warners was holding over, then I think it's worse because you are a contemptible artist. If you would engage in such a fraud, right. I mean, we, we are, we, the audience are supposed to accept anything from you. So long as we believe that you are engaged in art. The minute you stop doing that, then you're no different than a corporate raider who does, you know, decides that they're going to stick it to the board of trustees until they can get the golden parachute, but you're not an artist anymore.
Vic00:51:41You know, you're, you're just an economic actor and, and screw you. I have some questions. Just a couple of questions. One question at the end of the third movie does, is it clear to the audience that Neo decides he returns to become Mr. Anderson? Anderson again or, or so when it picks up at resurrections, he dies, he's dead at the
Sonny00:52:05end of the third movie or is he and Trinity are both dead or are they, and then they have to be resurrected for some reason, but did they choose to die or did they never really
JVL00:52:16even have a choice?
Vic00:52:17That's right. That's right.
JVL00:52:19That's right.
Vic00:52:20That's very deep. Say what choices. Let me pass you the joint. Here you go. Take it. There you go. Let's get it. Let's get it. We're in the dorm room right now. What do you even think reality is, dude? Are we even really here? Whoa. Okay. Uh, question for Sonny JVL and I were older when this movie came out and we were probably at the standard already. I assume when this movie came out, uh, Sonny, how old were you when the first matrix came out and did it blow? He was six years old.
Sonny00:52:50Now, uh, I was 16. I was 16 when it came out in February of March of 1999. Um, and I saw, I saw the movie three times in the first week, uh, that it was out. Cause it, it, it blew my mind, not, not like the philosophy stuff, which is, which is fine, but just like, it was literally something I had never seen before. And this is what I find. This is what I find so contemptuous about the, the, the bit in the first hour where they have this kind of montage of corporate suits and programmers saying, what does the matrix mean? What does the matrix mean? What is the matrix? And they're like, oh, it's trans politics. Oh, it's, uh, oh, it's opening your mind. Oh, it's, you know, the philosophical questions. And then, and then the sneering final response is it's bullet time. It's bullet time. It's bullet time. And the, the, the joke here, the joke here is that, oh, this movie is actually deeper than the, the revolutionary action. That it's, it's more profound than that, that it's the people attach themselves to the ideas of the matrix. And that's probably true to a certain extent, but the reason the movie works is because of bullet time. Bullet time is the reason that the first matrix movie was so revolutionary, but they know that.
JVL00:54:10And then they're saying that in this movie, which even blows your mind him even more.
Vic00:54:14Okay. So I don't understand the, the, the bullet time. And then the way Doogie Howser says that he's going to use bullet time against Neo. Yeah. How did he do that? So he's like even faster or does he make the flash slower? He's the flow.
JVL00:54:27Oh, okay. Yeah.
Vic00:54:29He's quick.
Sonny00:54:30So that's the thing is that we've already seen this in two different, we've, we've seen this in the X-Men movies and in, uh, Justice League, like, like we see this in every movie
JVL00:54:38that involves us. Sure. Yes. I hate this movie.
Sonny00:54:42Patrick Harris does. Okay. I hate this movie on every, every level, but the, the level I hate it the most on is the fundamental misunderstanding or the fundamental pretension that, that the matrix is something other than a really, really well done action movie. It is the, the matrix is the matrix resonated with people because it showed them something they had never seen before and reloaded even again, reloaded, say what you will about reloaded and say what you will about the talkie architect scenes and, and all of that. Like the reason that movie works to the extent that it works, and I think it more or less does work is that it has like one of the great action sequences of the 19 or the, the two thousands. It just, it has, it has an absolutely. Amazing, uh, set piece at the heart of it that has like not been topped, uh, in many
JVL00:55:34ways. I believe Sonny that it is clear from Sense8 and Jupiter Ascending and Cloud Atlas that the Wachowskis have never thought that the matrix succeeded because it was a good action movie. Well, they have always believed that the secret sauce is their deep insights into philosophy. Man. And I just utter frauds. I have nothing but contempt for this. These two.
Sonny00:56:06I will say, look, I like, I actually like Cloud Atlas. I think it's a, it's like a really, it's a, it's an interesting cinematic experiment. It's one of the best edited movies I've ever seen. It's doing something. It is at least doing interesting things with storytelling. Um, and I, I, I kind of like Speed Racer, at least it's interesting. It's visually, you know, it's, it's chaotic and it's a jumble, but it's at least visually interesting. Jupiter Ascending is terrible.
Vic00:56:28That's our friend, uh, Paul Crookston, one of his favorite movies, uh, is a Speed Racer.
JVL00:56:33I think it is worth, worth also pointing out that the Wachowskis also cashed in by creating a, creating a giant matrix MMO PRG or MMORPG, uh, of the matrix. And so the idea that they then say the laziness of then. Yeah. Yeah. I, I just think to myself, you tiny little frauds go fucking drive into a tree.
Vic00:57:04Whoa. That's the, that's, that's the, that's the kiss of death.
JVL00:57:08It is contempt for an audience and there is nothing that I, I hate more than an artist who is contemptuous of their audience.
Sonny00:57:16I think there, I think there is a, I think there is a level of contempt for the audience and they would say, oh no, we have contempt for the suits. We have contempt for Warner brothers, but I think, I think they are, I think it is, I think it is a, a contemptuous way to treat the audience that has paid money to see your booby to put together an action sequence like that warehouse scene and use it as a delay, a direct parallel to the Chateau scene, which was so, so good and so well done and so just visually beautiful and powerful. And like another thing about this movie, the score, the score of this movie, the soundtrack of this movie is trash. It's utter trash. And like compared to the, I was watching it again last night cause I was trying to, I was like, ah, maybe I was too hard on it maybe. So I've seen it twice now. And the thing that jumped out at me the second time was this movie just sounds like shit. This movie sounds terrible. It, there's no, there's no signature musical cue like, uh, in the first matrix when, um, uh, when they start, when the woman in red sequence starts that like that, that like, you know, There's nothing like that in this. There's, there's just, ah, no light this movie. I hate this movie so much. I am like, I'm shocked at how much I hate this movie.
JVL00:58:34I will tell you guys that the one, the one redeeming thing in all of this is that as a bit for this show, I watched the matrix from inside the matrix on my Oculus. I watched the matrix on the Oculus, uh, and it, it was, you know, it was pretty meta. Really? I just thought to myself the whole time. I mean, no, even knowing that there are pills, doesn't that make it so that I don't really have a choice? That's right. That's right.
Vic00:59:04Yeah. Okay. All right. That is enough. Uh, do we have, uh, uh, any corrections, shout outs, anything like that? No. I hope people are going to show up for the Knight Rider episode.
JVL00:59:15Oh, come on. I'm awfully excited about this.
Vic00:59:17Come on now. You know, you can do this.
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JVL00:59:50Did you finish off Hawkeye?
Vic00:59:52No, I didn't. I'm sorry. Here's what you got to do for me.
JVL00:59:55Here's what you got to do. Mm hmm. Go to the last episode and skip to the end because after the credits, Oh, the Easter egg is you remember in episode one when he's at the, the Broadway show Rogers, we see little snippets of the number. Yes. Yes. We get the entire musical number from start to finish.
Vic01:00:14It's like six minutes of staging. This explains by, and it's amazing. This explains by one of our friends, uh, friends, uh, in the SSEU was asking. On, uh, Twitter. Is it only a matter of time before they just make the musical because it seems to be put
JVL01:00:30together. Well, you can now, you can now download that song in its entirety from Amazon music. It's been released as an actual track. It's a single and I, I, I find myself humming it. Save the city. Help.
Sonny01:00:46I there's a lot of makes me want to die. The whole thing just makes so great.
Vic01:00:50So great. I'm sure it's fine.
?01:00:54Thank you.
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