#62. 'Red Notice'
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This week's Sub-Beacon takes on Netflix's Red Notice, the $200 million Dwayne Johnson/Ryan Reynolds/Gal Gadot heist comedy, and the three hosts land in surprising agreement about ninety percent of it while disagreeing loudly on the other ten. Sonny pans it hard, calling it "the most generic movie... product I've ever seen" and "competent mediocrity," complaining that it has no interesting visual ideas and that he'd rather have been folding socks at home than watching it in a theater. JVL professes to love it, insisting the script is 90% great and the three leads' movie-star chemistry is "off the charts" (he's especially smitten with a loose, having-a-blast Gal Gadot), even while conceding the third act collapses and the whole thing looks cheap, green-screened, and TV-movie-grade rather than cinematic — his verdict is that had this been made as an actual studio movie instead of Netflix "content," it could have been a buddy-comedy touchstone like Rush Hour or Shanghai Noon. Vic runs it through the Quadrant system and gives it a C for plot, a C for duration, a B for action/violence (docked for over-reliance on CGI), and a C for sex/nudity. That review kicks off a broader debate about Netflix's opaque viewership metrics — the "150 million hours watched" claim for Red Notice, contrasted with the much cheaper, much more efficient Squid Game — and whether Netflix even wants to be in the movie business versus dominating television. Before any of that, the opening third is given over to JVL agonizing over what to feed his family for a truncated Thanksgiving before his wife and son "Flash" depart on a Holy Land pilgrimage (with Sonny and Vic pitching increasingly deranged menu ideas, including a full mac-and-cheese flight), Sonny detailing his 4K Blu-ray buying binge (Snatch, The Green Knight) and debating up-conversion technicalities, and Vic recounting sleepless nights proofreading Matt Continetti's 400-plus-page history of American conservatism and reminiscing about salons with Norman Podhoretz, Irving Kristol, and Michael Novak. The episode closes, as ever, with JVL's beer-of-the-week (Hardywood's gingerbread stout) and a bit where Sonny jokingly accuses Vic of having a stroke mid-outro.
From the show notes
On this week's show, JVL has a decision to make. Sonny's on a buying spree. Vic's doing some editing! And the guys talk Red Notice , which is definitely #content.
Full transcript
Mike00:00:00I want you to help me catch the most wanted art thief in the world, the bishop.
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Mike00:00:14She set me up, framed me.
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Guest00:00:34Lips with your neck. Even if I did partner up with you... ...you'd still only have one brain.
Vic00:00:51Hello, and welcome to another edition of the Sub-Beacon. I'm Victor Matus, along with Jonathan V. Last and Sonny Bunch. Just a reminder, the Sub-Beacon's now available through Patreon. Go to subbeacon.com, you'll easily find us. Please subscribe, tell your friends, and don't forget about the Sub-Beacon merchandise store at tpublic.com. The holidays are just around the corner. It's never too early to order. Order now. Gentlemen, how are we? JVL, what is going on?
JVL00:01:18Big decisions. Big decisions have to be made in the last household. I need your help, gentlemen. And I need your help, gentle readers.
Sonny00:01:28Listeners. Well, whatever.
JVL00:01:30So, a long postponed trip that my wife, my lovely wife, was going to take two years ago, pre-COVID, is finally happening. Oh, no. She's going on a pilgrimage to the Holy Land.
Guest00:01:44Oh, oh.
JVL00:01:45She, because they had so many people drop out of this thing, they had a spot open up and she's taking Flash. Oh, my goodness. Flash is going to go and he's going to skip stones on the Sea of Galilee. And, you know, throw, maybe play some catch on the road to Gethsemane. In the Negev Desert. Anyway, but the point is none of that's important. What's important is that they are leaving on Thanksgiving night, which means that all of our Thanksgiving food plans, normally catered by Wegmans, are up in the air and anything is possible because we're not going to like do a whole Thanksgiving dinner that'll like get them off to the airport and all that. So I don't know what we should do. Part of me thinks Thanksgiving of pies, where it's pizza and then pecan and pumpkin, you know, just old pie things. Part of me thinks we could do Sheetz Thanksgiving. Oh, S-H-E-E-T-Z Sheetz? That's right. Go to Sheetz for Thanksgiving. Get some cheese curds, some fried mac and cheese. Get Flash, one of those satchels full of hamburgers. And have him eat those before he gets on an 18-hour flight to the Middle East, because that'll be great.
Vic00:03:04I was about to say, if you can avoid going to the bathroom like that on an airplane. Are they flying out of Dulles?
JVL00:03:13Actually, out of Reagan, the D.C.A.
Vic00:03:16Let me guess, to New York?
Sonny00:03:17Are they going up to New York? Yeah. Oh, yeah, okay. I was going to say, like, you can't fly. There's no direct D.C.A. to Jerusalem flight.
JVL00:03:28What should we do? Here's my question. I put it to you boys. What would you do? Because there is, again, no point in doing Thanksgiving dinners when it's going to be, you know, a week of just me with the three little kids. Question. None of them eat Thanksgiving foods.
Sonny00:03:43So your concern here is you don't want leftovers.
JVL00:03:47Not leftovers when I will be the only person in the house who eats Thanksgiving food. Gotcha. Plus, I don't want the hassle of, like, making it a thing. Because we don't have, you know, there's not going to be, like, a Thanksgiving supper or something. Okay. Question. Yeah.
Vic00:04:01What time will they leave the house?
JVL00:04:04I think we'll probably leave the house by 5:00.
Vic00:04:07Oh, so it's like a really late night flight.
JVL00:04:09Yeah. It's a red eye. 8:00 p.m. Oh.
Vic00:04:13Okay. You could still do. You could front load a Thanksgiving meal if you wanted to. Like, everybody ate at noon if you felt like it. If other people in your family felt like, you know what? I want that turkey. It's once a year. Let's just have it at noon. No. Let's have an early Thanksgiving dinner.
JVL00:04:30Yeah. Vic, you're thinking inside the box. This is my one Thanksgiving ever to do something totally crazy. You don't want to do Thanksgiving. So we should do something nuts.
Sonny00:04:38What should that be? You should do regular Thanksgiving full size for extended family and then throw away the leftovers. Oh, you're killing me. Just waste them. Just have a big. That's terrible. Just have a big actual, like go get one of the metal drums. You're hurting Vic. From the alley. That's a sin. You know, it's such a greater sin than seeing it. It's like the Simpsons. It's like the Simpsons episode where they're like the new, the hot new of the trend sweeping the land wasting food and it's just pictures of people pouring. That's what you should do. That's what you should. That's what you should do. No, you're the real. The real answer here is Mac and cheese medley. Oh, you should. You should create a series of high class Mac and cheese dishes, but oil, mac and cheese, truffle oil. Lobster, mac and cheese, baked bacon, mac and cheese, you know, Gouda melted on top mac and cheese, Brie is a goat cheese, mac and cheese. You should do 17 different kinds of mac and cheese and then rank them.
Vic00:05:44Is there, is that a, is that a consensus favorite in your house? Mac and cheese?
Sonny00:05:49No, no, no.
Vic00:05:50Not Sonny's house. I mean JVL's.
JVL00:05:53Everybody except for flash will eat it. Yeah. There is, there is no dish. Aside from Chick-fil-A or Wendy's Nuggets, which all six people in my house will eat. Right. Literally nothing. Similar.
Sonny00:06:07Similar. I have girls who don't eat pizza.
Vic00:06:09Flash, my son is not a mac and cheese guy.
Sonny00:06:10Flash doesn't eat mac and cheese? Flash doesn't do pasta. How can children not eat mac and cheese?
JVL00:06:14I know it's weird. What? Any form of pasta. He won't do it.
Sonny00:06:18Spaghetti. That's bizarre.
JVL00:06:20Spaghetti.
Sonny00:06:21Spaghetti with what? Ravioli. Wow.
JVL00:06:24Is it a, is it a texture thing? Texture. I don't know. I don't know. Who could say? But I like this idea of mac and cheese. The problem is I kinda want something that I can buy elsewhere. So in other words. I don't wanna have to.
Vic00:06:33So in other words, Flash will not have anything to eat for Thanksgiving. Is that what you're saying? That if it's mac and cheese medley. That's good.
JVL00:06:37You know, he's gonna, cause boy, let me tell you, he's gonna be in for all sorts of delights when he gets over there. Oh yeah.
Vic00:06:43Absolutely. For Middle Eastern food.
JVL00:06:45Absolutely.
Vic00:06:46He will have to. I, I am fascinated to find out how that works out. He will, he will have to. Like all sorts of shawarma. Like all sorts of shawarma. Hello, shawarma. If he wants to or not with shawarma. Here's my thing though.
Sonny00:06:54Fastos is gonna see, uh, him. And start crying. Fastos. From Eternals.
Vic00:07:00I don't, don't bring up that movie ever again. Uh, the, uh, there is something to be said by the way. I tried to eat very little before, uh, uh, a flight. So that might not be a bad idea for him because I, that's, I've done that. I had, I've probably mentioned on the show once where, you know, I had to get on a flight from, uh, DC. To, uh, San Francisco and the night before we had none and beyond cause we closed the magazine late. Oh, remember not to be on. That's not even good. And I, I had, I got up in the middle of the flight that you weren't even allowed to get up.
JVL00:07:38And I said, I don't care. Make an emergency landing. That's not terrorists. It does something inside. No lavatories.
Vic00:07:43I was expecting a bomb in his head. It's the bomb in his pants. So the, uh, the, uh, I expected an air. Marshall.
JVL00:07:52There's a chemical or biological weapon going off in the lab, right?
Vic00:07:56I would, I was sweating. I was having cold sweats. And so I worked my way down to the bathroom and there was a lock and the flight attendant at that very moment, the light went off. And so he left it and I went in and it was great cause it was the first flight in the morning. So it was clean. I just sat down. I sat down. I, you know, it was about five or 10 minutes later, like I gathered my senses and realized I was still in the bathroom. Like you can't just get up, you know, I don't know. I could never do the military like sit down, push, and then you get up. I need time to like get things back to normal and to get back to my senses. And by that time I went to a trance state too, because you know, everything needs to get back to normal. And then you finally sort of, you know, like, oh, where am I? Oh, cause like, you're no longer woozy. And I opened the door and that line was like to the middle of the cabin. And the guy had this look on his face. He just had this terrible look on his. I'm like, sorry.
Sonny00:08:53Well, he knows. He knows what he's in store for. He knows what's in store for him.
Vic00:08:56A little, a little non and beyond action.
Sonny00:08:59He knows what you've done in there. It's like the bathroom and train spotting.
JVL00:09:03You know what? There was a nun in there before me.
Vic00:09:05Right. That's right. That was it. That was somebody else. Not me.
Sonny00:09:10I blame it. She must've had the vindaloo. Sorry. Who had the vindaloo? Sonny. JBL, I told you, I must've told you guys my story about going to Israel.
?00:09:20Yeah, you did.
Sonny00:09:21You did. I must've.
JVL00:09:23Oh, getting sick.
Sonny00:09:24Right? Yeah. Well, you took the pill. Not really getting sick. You took a medication. You took a medication. Yeah. I mean, I got there and I ate one meal and immediately my stomach was just like, all of this has to get out right now. You got to get ... And the guy who was running the trip, apparently this is a fairly regular thing. Well, Father Landry can perform an exorcism. Or whatever.
JVL00:09:45Yeah. Father Landry can just do an exorcism if that happens to Flash.
Sonny00:09:48I'm not worried. So it's a Catholic trip. Yeah. It's a Catholic trip to Israel. Yeah. Yeah, it is. To go see the Jewish state. It's got a bunch of Catholics running around.
JVL00:09:58Well, you know, I don't want to spoil the surprise for you, but there is some Catholic stuff that happened in that region of the world. Well, I don't know. Let's ... Anyway, whatever.
Sonny00:10:09Sonny, how are you, buddy? I'm fine. I'm perfectly fine. I'm sitting here ... I have three Coors Lights in the room with me. And as I was bringing them in, Beth was like, "Well, what if ... You can't just bring those in there. What if the mountains don't turn not blue anymore?" And I was like, "You know what? That's a good point." So, I got a whole cooler. Oh, look at that. And we filled it with ice stuff for my three Coors Lights. We're going to get rid of these beers one of these days.
JVL00:10:40Actually, you're going to open that up and it's going to be the Duke's head in it.
Vic00:10:44Very good. It's like ... That's cold-filtered. That's what they call it. It's chill-filtered. It's so ... It's chill-filtered.
Sonny00:10:50It's like lagered, filtered, cold-lagered, cold-filtered, cold-packaged, the mountains are very blue. Very nice. So, anyway. I feel like a very cold Coors. That's all that's going on with me. I am currently in the midst of buying an exceptionally large number of 4K Blu-rays because Amazon has discounted all of the prices on things that I ... Amazon keeps sending me ... It keeps sending me alerts. It's like, "Hey, this movie's only $10." I'm like, "Okay." If you insist.
JVL00:11:25Merry Christmas to you.
Vic00:11:26If you insist, Amazon.
Sonny00:11:27What?
Vic00:11:28What do you get? I can't. Okay.
Sonny00:11:31So, give us a little tease here. What are you getting? What? I mean, it's not even stuff I'm really into. Oh, my God. It's like Green Knight. The Green Knight was on the 4K Steelbook. I was like, "Yes, I would like that. I would like that." Wow. It was like the ... One that I was like, "Okay, I actually do want to get this," was Snatch. Oh. The Guy Ritchie movie on 4K, which I did not upgrade from DVD. I have a DVD from 2001 of Snatch.
JVL00:11:59Did you get it on the used at Hollywood Video?
Sonny00:12:04No. No. I probably bought it for like 30 bucks from Barnes and Noble.
Vic00:12:08How is the quality of that now, if you pop it in the 2001? Do you notice ...
Sonny00:12:12Yes. Vic, I'm not a savage. I can see. I have eyes.
Vic00:12:18It's like if you ever see the old ... Like when they show you old sports clips from the '90s or the early 2000s, and it looks so bad, and then you think to yourself, "I don't remember it being that bad." That's just me. It's a different time. It's just me? It was a different time. Or it's just the quality fades. I don't know. I am ... Snatch is great. No, it's ... That is Farina at his best.
Sonny00:12:39Yeah. Snatch is great. I'm excited to rewatch it. I haven't watched it in a while, but it's going to be great on 4K. I'm excited. No, but ... At his best? Steven Graham! There is a huge difference between ... There's less of a difference between Blu-ray and 4K, frankly, than you would think, but that's mostly because I'm watching a very nice TV.
JVL00:13:05That's because your TV is up-converting.
Sonny00:13:06Right. The TV is up-converting, and also my PlayStation 5 is up-converting, so everything is juicing the image, and it's very, very close to 4K. For instance, we're going to talk about Mulholland Drive in the ... Oh, I can't believe it. ... bonus episode, and I am not upgrading Mulholland Drive from my Criterion Blu-ray to the Criterion 4K set, which is the reason that we're ...
JVL00:13:30You're crazy.
Sonny00:13:31You should do that. No, no. It's not worth it.
JVL00:13:34It's just not worth it. It's not worth it. I have a technical question, Sonny, for you to ask our buddy, Tony.
?00:13:39Sure.
JVL00:13:40In the chain of up-conversions, if you have a 4K DVD player, 4K Blu-ray player, like your plugged into your very nice OLED ... Yes. ... do you have two processing up-conversions happening, or do you have one and it's the first one, or one and it's the last one, or one and it's just whatever processor and routine is better?
Vic00:14:07Where is the button for the subtitles here? What language was that just now?
Sonny00:14:12Yeah. I'm just going to ignore that. I actually don't know what the answer to this is, and I'm kind of curious. Tony would know. Tony would know. Tony would know. My belief, my understanding is that the PlayStation 5 is doing the actual job of the up-conversion, and that the TV is just displaying what the PS5 sends it. But I'm not 100% sure on that. I do not know that for sure, so I should probably email and ask. We could get actual information for folks. All right. Yeah. So anyway, I am currently just accumulating movies that I will never watch again. This is not the first time this has happened.
JVL00:14:58But you'll have them. And you'll know that you could watch them.
Sonny00:15:01I could watch them at any time that I wanted.
JVL00:15:03And that you own them.
Sonny00:15:05So they'll always be there.
JVL00:15:06Jeff Bezos can't take them away from you.
Sonny00:15:08They will always be there.
Vic00:15:09Thank you. Victorino, how are you, buddy? I'm tired. I'm tired and I'm exhausted. I am proofreading Our Friends. Our friend Matt Continetti's upcoming book in the spring on the history of American conservatism. And so that has gotten me, you know, to actually like really this. This is a big book. It's more than 400 pages. So I hope he enjoys getting this done in 2024. How can I possibly finish this before you couldn't even read it in that amount of time? Read it. I can't even proof it. Right. Anyway. Well, when you when you get what I'm getting paid, I'm reading it. I really am. So then I actually work hard and I'm alert and I'm awake and I do this whole thing. But I would say it's it's I'm getting to the point in the story where we are now talking about basically friends of ours, especially yours and mine, JVL. These are all people who are slightly older. So I was thinking more like Michael Novak, obviously Irving and Norman, but then you get into from and you get to all these other people. And I just wish I read this book when I was 22 instead of 48. Oh, so that's what he did, you know, and because there's just so much of a back story to so many of these people leading up to this guy, Irving Kristol.
Sonny00:16:36I know.
Vic00:16:37I mean, look, obviously I knew. But it's weird because Norman Podhoretz knew that I knew I met Norman and Midge, you know, and and and it reminded me of. A dinner I had at Jody Bottoms, one of his salons. And the one that I was at was with well, with with Claudia and also Michael Novak and his wife and Irving and be crystal. And it's like I wish. You know, knowing what I know now, back when I was in my early 20s, I wish I was able to ask better questions than, you know, pass the potatoes, please, can you? Sorry. Uh, did you ever go to one of those JVL? I did. We did. I brought my sister. I don't think we overlapped. We were we were on separate ones.
JVL00:17:26So which. Who was that? Yeah, I was only invited once.
Sonny00:17:29Same. Mine was Claudia.
JVL00:17:31Yes. So she was a regular. I forget. Claudia was a regular over there. I think it's just because she could smoke unrepentantly. Yes.
Vic00:17:38Yes.
JVL00:17:39Smoke cigarettes. And smoke galois too. Yeah. Yeah. Totally. I forget who else was there. I did. It was the summer that my sister was living with me while she was in college and interning at ABC News. And so I brought my sister and it was we I would say my sister who was like a college junior.
Vic00:17:56Mm hmm. Which is.
JVL00:17:58Oh, right. What is this? Well, good. I'm glad I can relate to your sister with your sister to that. Yeah. I will say this, though. So one of the parts of the job that I really enjoyed back in the day, you know, when we were 22, 25, 27 was learning about all of these guys. Who came before us and not came before us in the Matt Lay Bash, Tucker Carlson sense. They weren't our near peers and they weren't even the the Bill and Fred and John peers. But the. The generation ahead of that. Right. Yes. The old bulls. Yeah. I liked learning about that. Honestly, I've learned about those people primarily through the back of the book. Right. Because. Right. Those guys would write for the back of the book. Yes.
Vic00:18:43And we would have. Oh.
JVL00:18:45Things about them. They wrote.
Vic00:18:47Yeah. Charles Kessler or whoever. You wondered where they came from, but you just because we met them at that moment and not knowing back what they were doing in the 60s in the 70s. Right.
JVL00:18:57Like with the Whitaker Chamber stuff. Yes. Right. Or like these are people who are like involved with Nixon. Right. Nixon. Reagan. And all the old Red Scare stuff. I get the sense that the kids today not only don't know anything about people like us. Yes. But. Forget it. Forget it. The idea about like learning about your elders. Yeah.
Vic00:19:21I wonder. Sorry, dude. You know.
JVL00:19:24I got 250,000 followers.
Vic00:19:25Right. No. It's all about. Fuck you. It's about. It's about influencers now and things like that. It's different. And I wonder how much of it's because Prince is dead, per se, versus when we were around at the tail end of that.
Sonny00:19:37But. Well, this is I mean, this is the thing, right? This is this is why the French Dispatch will never make sense to a certain generation of viewer. You know, as we talked about a couple of weeks back. I like I know exactly what you're talking about, JBL, because I was like, I am kind of the same way, except like like Vic, I kind of did it after I did. I did it a little bit later, like reading Norman Pothorst is making it and like I just like just like going through those like old collections of commentary and dissent magazine and stuff like public interest, like it just like going going through all of that stuff was. It just like really interesting to to read and kind of watch and track how people evolved. But yeah, no, like the there's I, I, I do not get the sense that there's a whole lot of like nostalgia for like the rugged intellectual combat of nineteen fifties, New York, right? I don't I don't think that's a thing anymore reading well, even like two thousands Washington.
Vic00:20:45Oh, oh, yeah. Well, I can't. No, I can't wait to get to that part of the book because then, you know, we'll see, you know, more of our. I am interested to know if I make the book, you have to go quick, go to the index, go to the index.
JVL00:20:57That's all. That's all it really matters.
Vic00:20:59As you know, that's what we do. It's so funny that, you know, I just wish that if if I knew this back then, I could be like Matt instead of being me.
JVL00:21:11And it's that is a really that he would ask you to proof it. Oh, that's a. That's a big.
Vic00:21:17Oh, I'm finding that is an honor stuff and I'm finding stuff. So, you know, I'm.
JVL00:21:22Do you remember the two people I trusted my book with? There were only two people that I trusted her to. Yes. Both friends of ours.
?00:21:30Uh, Andy.
Vic00:21:31No. Adam Kiper. Oh, well, yes. Yeah. Yeah. And Emily McClain. Oh, sure.
JVL00:21:38She's the best. Those were the two. And I just was like, that's right. There's the only two people that I felt comfortable putting my life in my hands with, because that's what you're doing when you hand your book over to be. That's right. Proofed or edited. Yeah.
Vic00:21:49I'm just proofing.
JVL00:21:50I'm just proofing. I'm not trying to move anything around. It's not like an. It's not like an article, you know, like. No. It's there for forever.
Vic00:21:56No. That's right.
JVL00:21:58Your kids will have it. Yeah. That's right.
Vic00:22:01That's, that's what it is. That's a very, that's a very nice thing that Matt did. Yes. So that's a sign of love. I'm I, it is. And I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm honored. I'm honored. And it's so funny. You mentioned Whitaker chambers, because that's like on my list. I'd love to read that book. Witness.
JVL00:22:12Yeah. So I only read it like 10 years ago. It is fucking amazing. I hope it's a short book. Well, I would say on the quadrants, it gets hit a little bit on length.
Vic00:22:26It might take me, I guess you could say an eternity to read it. Speaking of which, over the weekend, Eternals remain at the top of the box office with a whopping $26.9 million, followed by Clifford, the big red dog with 16.6 million. And Dune in third place with five and a half million. Box office thoughts, not a bad drop off, right, Sonny?
Sonny00:22:49Yeah, 62%. That's not terrible. I'm shocked.
JVL00:22:53I'm shocked it was that small.
Sonny00:22:56It's not a great hold for a Marvel movie, for sure. But it's also, it's not the worst. We were joking that the cinema score on this is a B, which is the same cinema score that Batman or Superman Dawn of Justice got. That movie dropped 68%. 69% first the second weekend. And that's the before times. And that was before times. Granted, it was also dropping from a much higher level. I mean, the number there was much bigger. So I don't know. It's fine. Clifford is kind of an interesting number because not only did it do, what was the number?
Vic00:23:3916. That is 16.6.
Sonny00:23:41Yeah. When did it do that? It also supposedly goosed a million signups for Paramount Plus. So that's kind of a more interesting number, I think, for Paramount. The Mountain. CBS. Paramount Plus. It's real.
Vic00:23:56Come climb the mountain. That's right. Those commercials are so confusing. It's real. Is Clifford, what is that? Is that like a sort of a computer animated?
Sonny00:24:03It's live action. It's live action with a big, big red dog that's computer generated.
JVL00:24:08Actually, Christopher Nolan is going to direct the sequel. The fakest. Yeah. He's in the middle of genetically engineering. He's got to do that. I watched that. A 30-foot tall red dog.
Sonny00:24:17I would watch it. It would be pleasing to the eyes. He's trying multiple things. He's also dyed a cow red. He's dyed a giant bull red, and he's trying to teach it to act like a dog. So we're going to see how that works.
Vic00:24:26See which one works first. Now, obviously-
Sonny00:24:28I took the kids, actually, to see Clifford. The whole family went to the draft house and watched Clifford, the big red dog.
Vic00:24:34So what did you think?
Sonny00:24:36It's a movie.
Vic00:24:39You know how we have the- It's a motion picture. Well, I don't know. Let the listeners know this, because we do have the bonus episode strictly for subscribers, which is pretty hot stuff, especially the one coming up. But we also do Sub-Beacon for kids, and that's a separate one, and that's where we only talk about kids' shows. You'll have to sign up to find out.
Mike00:24:56Anime.
Vic00:24:57Anime. Anime.
Sonny00:24:59So, okay. Yes. So anyway, it was fine. I mean, it's a kid's movie. Charlie was less interested in this than he was in Paw Patrol. Well, less identifiable with people he knows and things he knows. Six-year-old daughter, very into it. Some tears when the big red dog was in trouble, you know. When Clifford dies. It was moving. She was moved by it, so successful outing at the theater. So the big question here is, how much money did Red Notice make? Yes.
Vic00:25:37Oh, I know this. Because as you know, this is the movie- Red Notice. ... we're talking about this week, and it's not in theaters, but according to Netflix, I think if it were, it would have made hundreds of millions of dollars.
Sonny00:25:49It was viewed for 160 million hours across the world.
Vic00:25:59Break this down.
Sonny00:26:00What's happening here? I don't know. So Netflix has changed its data again. They used to count accounts. It had viewed a program for at least two minutes. So Extraction, for instance, the Chris Hemsworth movie.
JVL00:26:19Does that count trailers? Because most trailers are two minutes and 30 seconds long.
Sonny00:26:27Produced by the Russo brothers. The number that Netflix said was that 99 million accounts watched it for at least two minutes.
JVL00:26:37Yes. And people still talk about Extraction. I mean, it's part of the culture. People talk about Extraction. It is. It is. It's a touchstone.
Sonny00:26:44It's a touchstone.
JVL00:26:45I see kids with Extraction lunch boxes at school all the time.
Sonny00:26:49A couple months back, Netflix released not only the number of accounts, but also the hours watched, the hours of a program that were watched. So the top 10 films of all time, Extraction was number one with 99 million accounts had watched for at least two minutes. Bird Box was watched by 89 million accounts for at least two minutes. Spencer Confidential 600, blah, blah, blah. Extraction was watched for 231 million total hours, and that was actually number two. Bird Box did better with 282 million view hours. So they released these two things a couple months ago, but they've changed it now. They're not releasing, they're no longer releasing the number of accounts. They're saying instead they're releasing the total hours, and the total hours of Red Notice is like 150 million hours, something like that, which is a huge, huge number. In theory, 150 million hours, I mean, I don't know if that means 75 million accounts watched the whole two-hour thing. I don't know if 100 million accounts watched an hour of it, and then another 50 million accounts watched whatever. I don't know. The point is I don't know, and nobody really knows. So it's not super useful. It's not super useful.
Vic00:28:11They claim victory.
Sonny00:28:12They get to claim victory. They get to say, "Look, what do we have here? We have the most watched movie in history for us. We spent $200 million getting Dwayne Johnson and Gal Gadot and Ryan Reynolds in the same room together, and we made a movie. We made a movie and people watched it."
JVL00:28:34But important to note here, Netflix doesn't have any bombs or flops. They are unique among the studios in that... Because their system is so opaque, nobody has any idea when they spend $50 million on a movie which is watched by five people.
Sonny00:28:52Right. So they have internal metrics. And one of the interesting things about the Dave Chappelle fight recently was that somebody leaked information about what Netflix considers to be a value add for the network. So like Squid Game, because it was very cheap, it only cost like $20 million. What? And because it was, yeah, like the whole thing was like 25 million bucks or something.
JVL00:29:17Well, they were able to get that beautiful North Korean actress and she did the whole thing for $12.
Sonny00:29:22Right. Well, I mean, that's basically everybody. No one can see me laughing. I'm sorry.
JVL00:29:26I'm laughing.
Vic00:29:27I'm doing the silent laugh. I just thought it was so expensive. That island, it must have cost a lot to build the thing. You don't.
Sonny00:29:32Well, there are a lot of islands in Korea. They're very cheap. Oh, it's true. So that movie cost like $25 million to make and it's been watched for two billion hours or something. So like Netflix has internal numbers that says, all right, we, it costs this much. This many number of people watched it. It probably drove this many signups. We're going to say it. It has a net, a net plus to us of like 28 points or some, some nonsense, whatever their,
JVL00:29:59whatever their war is, the Netflix version of wins above replacement.
Sonny00:30:02Exactly. Exactly. It's their, it's their war. And the, the net, the Chappelle special had like a war of negative one. It was like basically break even for them. Lots of people watched it but not not a ton of people. And it's very expensive too, for just one hour of content. Like he, cause he is just a very expensive acquisition for them. So like, so, you know, they have internal things, but they don't really talk about that at all. What they do is they just throw out raw data. That's like, here's a hundred, 150 million hours people watched a worth of red notice. So that's a big hit for us. That's a big win. You know, it's probably going to do about the, the way that the. The numbers break down. It'll probably do about 300 million hours over its first 28 days, which is again, will be like their record for a movie, but it's nothing compared. It's nothing compared to the TV shows. It's nothing compared to, uh, again, squid games, which worldwide did something has done something like 2 billion, more than 2 billion, uh, hours viewed. Um, so I don't know. I mean like, you know, I, I, the, the, the real question is. Is it, is it a success for Netflix because it got people to stay in from theaters for a weekend or is it a success for Netflix because it's just something people turned on because they were going to be staying at home anyway. And I, I can't, I, you know, I, I saw one of the box office wonks, you know, joking about how this would have been a $25 million opening. Probably this movie would have opened at about $25 million, but those actors and me in this
JVL00:31:38now or in the, in the old days.
Sonny00:31:41I think, I think 25 million is probably about right. That's around free guy. I think that's, that's about, that's, that's about the number that I could see this doing. And it wouldn't, it would gross maybe a hundred million dollars domestic. I mean, this is not a movie that would, that would do very well because it is not, it's not well reviewed. People seem to like it. The, the numbers are okay. But it is, look, I, this is what I wrote in my review. I wrote that this is a movie that's going to be watched by a hundred million people. And a month from now, none of those people are going to remember anything that happens to them. It's the most generic movie like product I've ever seen.
Vic00:32:15Hard disagree. Sonny. Why don't you, before we get into that, uh, why, how about a little bit of a big boy review there?
Sonny00:32:23Uh, all right. So, uh, this movie is about, uh, the, these two, this art thief, Nolan Booth, uh, who is being tracked by an FBI profiler named John Hartley, uh, Ryan Nolan Booth is, uh, Ryan Reynolds. Dwayne Johnson plays the FBI profiler. And a second art thief named the Bishop, uh, played by Gal Gadot is trying to, uh, play them off of each other because she is trying to, uh, and also Nolan Booth is trying to gather the three Cleopatra's eggs together, uh, which are a made up thing that, uh, doesn't exist in the real world, but, uh, in this, in this movie, they exist. They're the MacGuffins and we know they're the MacGuffins because at one point Ryan Reynolds very snarkily says, oh, I'm, I'm looking for a box of chips. It should be labeled MacGuffin because he gets, you get it. It's a movie. We're watching a movie. I hate, I hate this movie so much. I, uh, I, uh, anyway, it's, it's, it's a, it's a classic two hander with Ryan Reynolds and, uh, uh, Dwayne Johnson trying to do action comedy. It's a, it's like a mashup of the sting and Raiders of the Lost Ark. Um, there's lots of double crosses, there's lots of treasure, there's lots of things that actually, here's the thing there, there's nothing approaching an interesting visual idea in this movie. There's nothing approaching an interesting visual shot. I actually saw this in theaters. I saw it in theaters cause I wanted to review it, uh, before it came out on, on Netflix. Um, it is playing in a handful of theaters and I found myself longing for the trailer, uh, for the Michael Bay movie ambulance that played in front of this movie because at least that has like interesting visual stuff going on. It's like kind of interesting to watch. It's just has none of that. It has none of that. It's very boring. It's not funny. I like Ryan Reynolds kind of smarmy thing, but it's not exactly tight comedy. It's very personality driven and personality based. Uh, Dwayne Johnson is fine in this Gal Gadot is pretty. That's it. I mean like that's, that's the movie it's, it's, it's, it is, it's a movie that's driven by star power and like these guys are fine. But the, the, the script by Ross and Mara. Marshall Thurber, whatever his fucking name is, is nonsense. It's competent nonsense. Here's the other thing about this movie is that it is actually, it's actually very, very competently made. I was never confused by what was happening on the screen. I was never, uh, I was never surprised by any of the like visual stuff. I was like, okay, this all makes sense spatially and geographically. Like it's fine. We're all, this is, this it's, it's, it's competent mediocrity. It is like the perfect. Netflix original. I found myself wishing I was sitting at home folding socks while I was watching it instead of in a theater because it, it is, it, this is just what I do when I watch Netflix movies.
Vic00:35:22Wow. So next for next Netflix movies versus quote real movies, JVL, you said hard disagree,
JVL00:35:31please. I, so, so I, here's the thing. I suspect that maybe Sonny and I are 80% in agreement of this. But Vic, as always, can we go to the man of the people first?
Vic00:35:45Oh, well, the plot, I gave it a C. Just totally, you couldn't, you couldn't figure it out.
JVL00:35:57I just can't wait to hear what you give Mulholland drive.
Vic00:36:00Oh man. Uh, it just was so, uh, I just wasn't interested in the plot eggs. How about Shankara stones? Why don't we just do that? Yeah. Was it obvious to you? Spoiler alert. That gal spoilers.
Sonny00:36:15We're going to, we're going to be talking about all the double crosses in this movie.
Vic00:36:19That gal Godot, Godot, Godot, Godot and the rock were together. Were you watching this from the beginning? Oh, they're obviously a pair. They're all. Oh, okay. I assumed that you guys were way ahead of me on that one.
Sonny00:36:32I did not think that because I don't envision the rock as a sexual person in any way. He's basically a eunuch, but, but, but, but I, I was, I, I did. I did. I did know. I did know in the first like 10 minutes of the movie that he was obviously, uh, an art thief and not an FBI profiler because there's literally a line of dialogue where he says like sarcastically, like I'm the villain and I was like, all right, we're going to flash back to this. We're going to flash back to this in the big reveal and then we're going to find out that he actually is the villain here. It turns out. Yep. That's exactly what they did. I mean, it's like, it's the most basic, it's the most basic screenwriting bullshit, uh, in the entire world.
Vic00:37:11Okay. Duration is a C. This was a long movie. Uh, action.
Sonny00:37:15It isn't though. It isn't. It's like an hour. 50.
Vic00:37:19What? It's like an hour. 50 minutes.
Sonny00:37:22Did it feel short to you, Sonny? No, it didn't feel short. No, it did not feel like a short movie, but it's, but it is not a long movie. It's an hour and 50 minutes.
Vic00:37:29That's a bad sign. Action violence B. I give it a B. I don't even give it an A because I'm so tired of the CGI. All they're doing is going from green screen to green screen. The hell. Everything's CGI. It was just a whole thing. I just found it to be completely. Uninteresting. Sex nudity. What about sex and nudity? I'll give that C because the obviously wasn't any, what is it, PG 13? Yeah. Yeah. But she does look great. There was nothing going on with her though. I mean, she's just wearing dresses. Inspector Doss? Oh, I liked her too. She's interesting. She's interesting. I needed to know more about her, but I didn't see enough for her and she's sort of like on the trail, but again, I just, okay, so, uh, when you break it down for me on the pro side, a couple of chuckles, you know, but mostly cons, right? I didn't find the story.
Sonny00:38:17Name a joke. Remember, remind me of a joke in this movie. I want a line of dialogue that was actual humor from this movie.
JVL00:38:25They're talking about how terrible their fathers are. And Ryan Reynolds says, it's a miracle we're not both strippers. It's fucking fantastic.
Sonny00:38:35I don't remember that. All right.
JVL00:38:37I'll give you another amazing joke. I'll give you another amazing joke in this. So. What they set up is that there's this incredibly wealthy Egyptian billionaire, and he is the one who is paying $300 million for these eggs because he wants to give them to his daughter, whose name is Cleopatra as a wedding gift. And when we get to the over the top party, which is almost.
Sonny00:39:01This isn't funny. I know what you're gonna say. It's not funny. I know what you're about to say.
JVL00:39:05It's not funny. The fact that she looks and oohs and ahhs over the eggs for less than five seconds. And then when some guy from Game of Thrones does a musical. Appearance, she leaves them in a heartbeat to try to get a selfie with him, whoever he is. I don't. I have no idea who he is. I've never seen this guy before. Ladies love Ed Sheeran. But the fact that she that she leaves the priceless eggs and grabs her phone to try to get a selfie with him is hysterical.
Sonny00:39:31It's basic. Cool.
Vic00:39:33It's basic. Okay. So I did not. I found it very. I just found it very derivative. And like there's all these jokes about Indiana Jones and the chemistry is fine. I'm tired of the Ryan Reynolds snark. It's like watching Deadpool three or something. Although I like the reference as a drinks person to aviation gin. I assume you caught the bottle that he poured that did not have the label. It was turned around. But that's clearly aviation because I have aviation gin.
Sonny00:39:58Well, it was it was it was interesting to me that they did turn around the bottle. I was actually kind of surprised by that. He doesn't have it in his. He doesn't have it in his car. Yes. Yeah. That he gets to like, you know, I don't know. I was I was surprised by that. Well, it's like it's like whenever you see a bottle of Sin Ghani pop up in a in a.
JVL00:40:17It must. So if they had a chuckle, I got a chuckle out of the hole is right. If we're not getting paid, you don't get to see the label. It's funny how it works.
Sonny00:40:25Not the other way. But I mean, I would assume again, I would assume I am. I am surprised that Ryan Reynolds and his people didn't, like, work that into the into the the actual contract, everything like any time he's drinking on screen, it has to be aviation.
JVL00:40:37JVL, why did you love this movie? I. Well, here's the thing. I loved it. I thought it was sensational. The the another great joke you're talking about, the don't move because the bull senses motion. This is the CGI ball park. That's CGI. No, it was David Attenborough there. I saw this in a documentary says, I think you're thinking of Richard Attenborough. All right, I'll give you that.
Sonny00:41:03That's a bunch of references.
JVL00:41:05It's just a bunch of references to very funny references. And so here's the thing, though. I thought the script was 90% great. The chemistry of the three leads was off the charts. Movie star stuff.
Sonny00:41:22I cannot believe what I have never.
JVL00:41:25I like Gal Gadot. Believe it. I like Gal Gadot. I like her a lot. Just fine. I like her more than just fine. I like her a lot. I've never seen her have this much fun on screen. Gal Gadot was having a great time and it was infectious and it was great. Here's the problem. So there, there is a third act problem. The final 20 minutes of the movie suck. So it does not stick the landing at all. However, this is a movie in which it looks like they spent about 150 million on salary for the three leads and then $7 million on everything else because the movie looks not like a movie. It looks like the made for USA series. The Librarian starring Noah Wiley 100% and that is true at the level of the score, which sounds like it's generic, you know, clip audio from SoundCloud that they have downloaded. It's true of the way it's shot is true. The fact that every location seems to be a green screen.
Sonny00:42:27Yes. Well, they shot it during the pandemic. It is so they shot a lot or they shot a lot of it during the pandemic. So a lot of it was done like essentially without crowds. They were trying to do, you know, I am here to tell you.
JVL00:42:41That if this was 2018 and this had been shot by a real studio as a real movie. Then this is this film would have been pushed into the summer. It would have been like a June opening and one of those like Jumanji, one of these quiet like, hey, you know what Sony really thinks they have something here, but nobody's seen anything about this. They've got these three stars and it would have it would have opened to one hundred and one hundred million dollars that would have had an A plus plus cinema score. And we would all be getting one of these sequels every four years until they had sucked everything dry from it, because this would be like rush hour. We the the buddy cop action comedy is one of the great genres. And had this been a real movie back in the before times done by a real studio and not Netflix with the same script, but another couple of right throughs on it. And filmed like an actual movie, this would have been like Shanghai noon or rush hour to or I just lethal weapon.
Sonny00:43:50I just want to highlight here that basically what you have just said is that if this was a different, better movie, it would have been a better movie. And I agree with that. Yes, I told you.
JVL00:44:02I think we basically agree.
Sonny00:44:04If this movie had a better script and if this movie was direct, I said, if this movie were not this movie, if this movie, if this movie was what had a had a third act that worked, if this movie didn't hang its hat on a fucking Ed Sheeran joke, did you see Netflix trying to make this a thing on Twitter, Netflix on Twitter? No, I didn't.
JVL00:44:26I'm not on Twitter.
Sonny00:44:27We're trying. They were trying to meme it on Twitter where there's a line in the movie where Ed Sheeran's like, don't you know who I am? I'm Ed Sheeran, bitch. And and it was like, that's sad. It's sad that this isn't that's not the thing. Well, that's what that's what they tried to make it as the funny thing.
Vic00:44:44That's a great Ed Sheeran impression, Sonny.
JVL00:44:46So I have never seen Ed Sheeran before. I had no idea who he was. The funny very famous musician. I don't listen to his music, but he's a joke is that he would.
Vic00:44:54The only thing that he would mention is Game of Thrones, which is a little cameo he made.
JVL00:44:57But the fact that is, oh, no, the real joke is that she grabs her phone and doesn't give a shit about the eggs. Yeah, I got this is hysterical funny. I again, as I said when I began this, Sonny, you and I are 80 percent in love. We're in alignment. This is this again.
Sonny00:45:14But you can say this about you can say this about 90 percent of movies, but this was not shot to be a better shot.
JVL00:45:19No, this is the problem.
Sonny00:45:21This movie was better scripted about it was not.
JVL00:45:25It's not a movie. This is the fundamental. So had this been a movie and not content, oh, then we would have been talking about it the way we do Rush Hour Two or Shanghai Noon, or as I said, Lethal Weapon. Right. Or Leak the Weapon Two. Right. I mean, this is that these great buddy cop action comedies become touchstones. Right. There are things that everybody loves, things that everybody stops to watch when they're on TNT. And this was this close to being one of those movies. And instead, Netflix turned it into fucking content. And the difference between content and movies is that movies matter and content doesn't. And maybe Netflix is right. The content is, you know, content, greater sign movies that, you know, who needs movies? You could just do content and content pays for itself. And, you know, it's like the the the people in media are like, oh, we need long form reporting. But the problem is, too long form reporting, you got to pay a couple of reporters a living wage to work for two months and only publish one thing. Whereas you can hire a 22 year old to write 15 takes a day while just rewriting, breaking news on other places and get lots and lots of clicks. But so maybe they're right. But even as content, you love this content. I've loved it. Qua content, meaning for for what is on Netflix. This is the best Netflix original I have ever seen, and it is still content.
Vic00:46:59You need to watch Stranger Things. Well, it's not about the first season. Yeah, it's not a movie.
JVL00:47:04This is the best Netflix movie I've ever seen. And that's because of the movie star like quality of the three, their chemistry and screen and the pretty good stuff. But but you know what? This is again not to tease out the the bonus show, but watching watching this, which is you know, Red Notice again, like somebody had taken a Shane Black script and just like fucked up the last ten pages, but then handed it to the same team that did Burn Notice and said, shoot this for USA Network. Watching that and then also watching David Lynch's Mulholland Drive. Just hammers home the idea that that cinema as art is gone. It is gone. And that is, you know what? It was gone in Mulholland Drive to that is a fucking tragedy there.
Sonny00:48:01We'll talk. We'll talk more about Mulholland Drive in the bonus. I am. I mean, look, I disagree with you. I disagree with you that Netflix has has. Not made better originals than this, but the trick is all of the better originals have been made by, like, actual great filmmakers who they have just given the keys to. So I didn't care for Roma, but I like better than the Irishman. A lot of people are part of the Irishman.
Vic00:48:26I like Irish for the Irishman. The first part of where a senior citizen, Robert De Niro, pretending to be young Robert De Niro in his twenties.
Sonny00:48:36Very creepy.
Vic00:48:37Not very creepy. But the middle when once they can just be their old selves.
Sonny00:48:41But like Ballad of Buster Scruggs, the Coen Brothers movie, you know, I like I they've had some they've had some good, good original stuff. But yeah, I agree with you that, like, most of it is just it's just content. It's just this is why this is why I find I still think it's very weird that Netflix wants to be in the film business as opposed to the TV business, because TV is where they actually capture the the hours and hours of eyeballs. And the only reason to be in the film business is because you want to get the prestige of being associated with a Ryan Reynolds, Dwayne Johnson, Gal Gadot production.
JVL00:49:23No, I think the reason is because you have to drive the other studios out of business so that you are the only creator of content. It's predatory capitalism. It's not it's not because they're making money of that. It's because they in order for Netflix to justify its stock price, it has to be a monopoly list. Even in a duopoly, even if it's just Netflix and Disney Plus, the Netflix stock price does not make sense. Yeah, right. This is that.
Sonny00:49:50That's why. I mean, this is why they're this is why they're spending, you know, $18 billion a year on content or whatever question.
Vic00:49:57How do they travel from city to city so quickly? How did they get to the jungles, especially how did they get to Argentina?
JVL00:50:05How did they get to Argentina? But stop.
Sonny00:50:07Do not question.
JVL00:50:08Doesn't that green screen work? And here's the other thing. Look, I I am not a child. I understand that most movies do green screens. Now it is, you know, not everybody is Zodiac, which I loved. Not everybody is out there with Frankie Ford Coppola in the jungles shooting on location. This looked so bad.
Vic00:50:32The jungle scene looked like it was like from the Dora the Explorer movie.
Sonny00:50:36Not that I've seen it, but you know, it was like it was from Indiana Jones four. Yeah. That's right. Another crystal skull. Remember that? Remember the jungle scenes on that one?
JVL00:50:45Our buddy Matt Robarts emailed me to ask what is it that happens that the CGI work now looks worse than CGI work from five years ago? Yes. And the only thing I can think of is that it's now optimized for smaller screens.
Sonny00:51:02So you can just spend less money on it.
JVL00:51:05Right. Like, like, look, nobody's seeing this a 30 feet tall, everybody's watching it on their phones. So just make it look good enough for the phone.
Vic00:51:14So if you do see it on a big TV, then it's awful.
Sonny00:51:16Yeah. I mean, I saw it again. I saw this in a theater. It must have been. And I was. Horrifying. I was like, I was like, this looks I mean, it looks like somebody made this at home on a MacBook Pro.
JVL00:51:27But again, I laughed out loud and the this is the role Gal Gadot was born to play. She has so much fun. It's great. I haven't seen her have this much fun. Since she did the fish out of water stuff in London at the very beginning of of Wonder Woman two and the second act of Wonder Woman two, when first Wonder Woman, sorry, the second act of the first second act of the first Wonder Woman. And she's just great. She's legit great in this when she starts singing downtown. And I don't just mean like super hot. She's fantastically funny. I love her sonny. You took your headphones off.
Sonny00:52:10There's an actual there's an actual good movie that's out in theaters right now called Last Night in Soho that uses the song downtown to much greater effect. Seek that out. Don't watch fucking burn red notice.
Vic00:52:23I like Gal Gadot even in that date night movie with Steve Carell. She has a cameo with Mark Wahlberg and she's on screen for only a couple of minutes. Amazing Victorino.
JVL00:52:33What do you think about that swimsuit in the final scene?
Vic00:52:36Yeah, she's great. That's right. I love it. I like that swimsuit was not a special effect. I wouldn't know. I would have liked. But boy, howdy.
JVL00:52:43Mm. Okay.
Vic00:52:45That's all. Great. Okay. Thank you. Corrections.
JVL00:52:50Shout outs. Anything. I had a correction. Oh, I said we're three weeks away from three years away from Ambush Bug. Ambush Bug is D.C. I realized that as soon as we finished taping. It's not a Marvel movie. That's all. And I have a correction.
Sonny00:53:03I have a I have a spirit of the week.
JVL00:53:05Oh, wow. It is Christmas time, which means that Hardy Wood has their gingerbread. Stout. Hardy Wood, a brewery in Richmond, Virginia is the only thing good to ever come out of the Confederacy. Their gingerbread stout is amazing, and as I have found, you have this gingerbread stout with a chocolate chip cookie.
Vic00:53:26Oh, boy, it sounds like it's like a whole.
JVL00:53:31It's like Gal Gadot in your mouth.
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Sonny00:53:49What do you got? You got anything? Vic, did you have any drinks before the show?
Vic00:54:01I did it, but I keep on slurring. I've been slurring today. I was.
Sonny00:54:05Have you noticed this? I'm a little slurring. Do you need to maybe. I might be having a stroke. Is your left arm.
Vic00:54:09I might be having a stroke.
Sonny00:54:10Is your left arm okay? No, I don't. Can you feel everything in the extremities of your fingers? I guess it's fine.
Vic00:54:15I don't feel it at all. It's kind of numb.
Sonny00:54:17Okay. All right. I just wanted to check. I just wanted to check because that Patreon shot out there at the end.
Vic00:54:22That Patreon. Was it sure? Yes. I don't know. Does anyone else smell the almonds? The bitter almonds?
Sonny00:54:28Do you smell that? Okay. No?
Vic00:54:31All right. Do we need to text Kate? Right here on the show.
Sonny00:54:34I'm doing this for the ratings.
Vic00:54:35I'm sure it's fine.
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