#38. 'Gunpowder Milkshake'
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The main event is Netflix's Gunpowder Milkshake, the Karen Gillan-led "Lady John Wick," and all three hosts arrive at qualified affection for what Sonny calls nice, empty spectacle: he likes Gillan and Michelle Yeoh, calls the bowling-alley fight the best-choreographed sequence, but argues the film copies John Wick's assassin-world mythology (secret guild rules, sanctuary diners, weapon check-jars) instead of doing the harder work of matching its action choreography. JVL says there's less to it than meets the eye, noting director Navot Papushado's earlier film Big Bad Wolves was genuinely excellent and this is a steep downgrade; he singles out a hallway fight — Gillan's arms paralyzed by a bad-guy doctor — as the one scene with real wit, reminiscent of Raising Arizona, while cataloguing every place the film's own "mythos" rules collapse within seconds (guns in the diner, an unused Gatling gun) and cracking that Paul Giamatti is ready to play Billy Joel in a biopic. Vic gives it a B/B+ overall and runs his full Quadrant grades — plot a clean B (no disguises, easy to follow), duration an A (barely under two hours), violence/action an A+ (the forklift beheading), sex/nudity an F but defended by comparison to Atomic Blonde — and confesses to being personally conflicted about which Karen Gillan he finds more attractive, her human self or her Nebula robot self from Guardians. The front third is dominated by "Flag" surviving his first colonoscopy ("three hours of missing memory, both wonderful and scares me"), KSA's formal demand for a Formula One: Drive to Survive episode, an extended riff on the unmistakably phallic shape of Jeff Bezos's Blue Origin rocket that spirals into a full Fantastic Four powers tangent, listener reaction to the recent MCU-ranking bonus episode, Sonny's solo week spent rewatching all four Predator films (with Predator 2 reappraised as a late-'80s/early-'90s urban-crime-panic movie in which the Predator hunts LA gangs), and Vic's own home-alone stretch, which he turns into a guessing game before revealing he made a "clam-wich" — Whole Foods 365 fried clam strips on brioche with Duke's tartar sauce — and closes the episode vowing to go for a run to work it off.
From the show notes
This week the guys talk about Netflix's Gunpowder Milkshake . Sonny has thoughts on the Predator movies. Vic goes on a quest to find something to eat his family can't stand. Plus: space penises! All that and more on this week's episode of the Sub-Beacon.
Full transcript
Sonny00:00:00Sam, your talents are needed. Somebody stole from us.
Guest00:00:10He's crazy enough to steal from the firm.
Sonny00:00:14Is it done?
Guest00:00:15There's a change of plan. They have an eight-year-old girl. I can't leave her to die.
Sonny00:00:24Sam, you killed the wrong people. You're no longer under our protection. Some bad men are coming to hurt us.
Guest00:00:30We have to go where it's safe. Hi, Mom.
?00:00:36Am I a grandmother?
Guest00:00:38God, no.
Vic00:00:51Hello and welcome to another edition of The Sub-Beacon. I'm Victor Matus along with Jonathan V. Last and Sonny Bunch. Just a reminder, The Sub-Beacon is now available through Patreon. Go to subbeacon.com. You'll easily find us. Please subscribe. Tell your friends. We're the perfect traveling companions on that long summer road trip or long commute back to work. And don't forget about the Sub-Beacon merchandise store at tpublic.com. Gentlemen, how are we, JVL?
JVL00:01:18I have some good news and some bad news. Bad news first. The bad news is Ben Dreyfuss and I can't be friends.
Sonny00:01:26Oh, no. Why not?
JVL00:01:28Because of the good news.
Sonny00:01:29Flag made it.
JVL00:01:30He came through in the end. He came through. He texted, so to speak. He texted me and he said, "I woke up and I have three hours of time missing from my memory and it is both wonderful and it scares me." So, yay, Flag. I'm glad you're back.
Vic00:01:47That's what most people say from that experience, by the way.
JVL00:01:50I have a point of order to raise with you guys from KSA. She demands that we do a show about something called Formula One Drive to Survive, which she claims is Good Place/Ted Lasso level amazing.
Vic00:02:13Wait a minute. I thought that sounds like it's a documentary. No?
Sonny00:02:18I have no idea. Is it not like a Top Gear? I have no idea. That's what it sounds like. I saw this comment from KSA. I'm pretty sure. I wasn't sure how to respond, because I have no idea what it is.
JVL00:02:27I don't either. Where is it on? I think Netflix? She's never steered me wrong. Maybe she steered you guys wrong. No, that's true. I'm open to doing that.
Sonny00:02:38We'll take it under consideration. Okay.
JVL00:02:40That's the thing. I feel like it's important for us to talk about, because we're taping this a little early. We're taping this on Tuesday, July 20th. On a Tuesday. And Jeff Bezos' space penis successfully... Launched. It slipped the surly bonds of Earth. And I am very curious as to what you boys think about his space penis.
Vic00:03:03Okay. What are you talking about? I mean, not about... Jeff Bezos went into space.
Sonny00:03:08Yes. But what do you... You saw the news, right?
Vic00:03:11I did. What's with the space penis?
JVL00:03:13Did you...
Sonny00:03:14Did you...
JVL00:03:15Well, it looks a little bit like a penis. Oh, you mean the ship. Did you see the... No, no. No, no. Sonny. It's not that it looks a little bit like a penis. Every obelisk, every tower, every rocket is just sort of by general definition vaguely phallic. Yeah, phallic. Yeah. This thing looks like Seth Rogen built it.
Vic00:03:31You mean it's like the fuel tanks are like too giant at the base of it? This looks like if Seth...
Sonny00:03:37But it's also got a little head on it. Oh, okay.
JVL00:03:39Got a little mushroom head up at the top. If Seth Rogen was... And one little window in the middle.
Sonny00:03:43It's like it's... A vertical window. It's like something out of...
JVL00:03:46Yeah, it's something out of...
Sonny00:03:47A vertical window. ...Austin Powers.
JVL00:03:49Really. Wow. If Seth Rogen was doing a sci-fi type movie, this is the rocket he would have come up with.
Vic00:03:57That's what you want to be on.
JVL00:03:58Riding on it.
Sonny00:03:59Imagine Sausage Party, but about space. That's right. That's what...
Vic00:04:03I was curious why all of a sudden it was a bigger deal than Richard Branson, because I didn't realize how much further up he was. Oh, a lot further. Yeah. In terms of kilometers. Hundreds.
Sonny00:04:17Hundreds of kilometers. He actually... I mean, he actually... I would say that he actually went into space as opposed to Richard Branson, who just... Went up kind of high.
Vic00:04:22What do you call it? Suborbital or whatever the term is. Yes. Yes. Does that mean Richard Branson's going to have to outdo Jeff Bezos now in what?
Sonny00:04:28Orbit the Moon. Well, you know the... What would have been... Slingshot. We got to see what Elon Musk is going to do.
JVL00:04:33Oh, yeah. Slingshot. In the movie version of this, Richard Branson would have died, because he moved up his launch to get ahead of Bezos, even though he wasn't going very high. And so, in the movie version of this, his space plane, which was launched from a plane, it wasn't even... Oh, right.
Sonny00:04:51Right. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was like...
JVL00:04:54Like the X1. It was like the right stuff. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. That's right. So, that would have blown up, and then we would have had the drama of like, "Does Bezos survive?
Vic00:05:01Does he not survive?" But of course, Lord Bezos survives. Or that Branson's ship would explode at the launch pad, because of a radical Jake Busey. Just blowing it up.
JVL00:05:11Now, do you think that the space penis was perhaps bombarded by cosmic muraise while he was up there? Oh, he's just giving him powers now? And maybe Jeff is going to come back with some extra powers? Maybe he'll... Additional powers. He's always stretching. He's always reaching. I mean, he's already-
Sonny00:05:26Oh, you mean like the Fantastic Four?
Vic00:05:27Yes. Something happened to all of them? Michael Chiklis? You caught up. That Fantastic Four? You caught right up on that one, Vic. It took you a second. Considering I didn't see any of those movies, I think I saw part of the one with Jessica Alba. There were two. There were two with Jessica Alba. That's a Marvel movie. That's a Marvel movie, isn't it?
Sonny00:05:47Yeah, but not Marvel Cinematic Universe. That was a Marvel movie. Chris Evans is in that movie. Chris Evans plays- Yes, as the Torch. As he plays the Human Torch, just before his turn as Captain America.
JVL00:05:57Rare people.
Vic00:05:58It's funny that people were willing to give that a pass. Rare.
JVL00:06:01He's one of the rare actors to occupy two roles within the same Cinematic Universe. Crazy.
Sonny00:06:08It's so crazy. Well, it's not the same Cinematic Universe. You know what I'm saying. They're just both Marvel movies. Yeah. Lots of people have gone back and forth between DC and Marvel. Yes. I was like David Harbour, for instance, who was in Black Widow. He was also in Suicide Squad, and he was Hellboy. That's actually three- I was going to say Hellboy. That's actually three separate Cinematic Universes labels, comic labels.
JVL00:06:31Here's the question I wanted to ask you guys. If Jeff Bezos had been bombarded by cosmic rays while aboard his space penis, what power do you think he would have wanted?
Sonny00:06:44Let's just go from the original- Oh, would have wanted. Fantastic Four-
JVL00:06:47Would have wanted. Fantastic Four, right? So the five of them were bombarded in the movie version, not in the comics. What do you think he would have wanted? Would he have wanted to become Michael Chiklis?
Vic00:06:57No, it's too bad if it were-
Sonny00:07:00Human Torch. He'd want to be Human Torch.
Vic00:07:02For sure. If it were the X-Men, he would have been Professor X Mind Control. I think that would have been his thing, because that's what he wants, ultimately. But that's not the Fantastic Four.
Sonny00:07:12Jesus. Jesus, Vic. Come on.
JVL00:07:15They're mutants. You see, they're born that way. Yeah, mutants.
Sonny00:07:18Mutants have the X chromosome. Come on. No, but he'd want to be the Human Torch, or possibly the Invisible Woman. Imagine if Jeff Bezos had the power of invisibility. Think about all the trouble he could get into as an invisible man.
JVL00:07:39Let me then flip this question around for Victorino. Sue Storm. I remember her name. If you could have any of the Fantastic Four's powers, or you could be Jeff Bezos- Which would you rather? Jeff Bezos.
?00:07:50Yeah.
Vic00:07:51Jeff Bezos' power of being Jeff Bezos, way cooler than any of the Fantastic Four. The Fantastic Four, I assume they live comfortably in sort of space-agey headquarters, but they don't have the money. They just don't have the money.
Sonny00:08:07Yeah, but they've got tons of money, though, because Reed Richards has patented all his ideas. I bet Reed Richards, if he's not a billionaire, he's probably pretty close. What's the Fantastic Four's headquarter called? Reflexible.
JVL00:08:23Oh, it's going to kill me. Yeah. I'll effort that while you guys talk.
Sonny00:08:29All right. But Reed Richards was fabulously wealthy. He supported the whole team with the money from his inventions. So I mean, I don't know. I don't know.
JVL00:08:43All right. Santino, how are you? Oh, the Baxter Building.
Sonny00:08:47The Baxter Building.
JVL00:08:48That's what it was called. Which funnily enough, we have a street address on it. It is at the corner of 42nd and Mad.
?00:08:54Wow.
Sonny00:08:55That's crazy. How funny is that? It's in New York City.
JVL00:08:58That's...
Sonny00:08:59It's in New York City. So... Okay. The Baxter Building. Do you think the Baxter Building was destroyed when the aliens attacked? When Loki showed up?
Vic00:09:09You know what's funny? There actually is a building on Fifth Avenue in Midtown called the Fisk Building.
JVL00:09:14Like where the kingpin lives. Yeah. That's...
Sonny00:09:18This is the worst... This is the worst... Yeah. ...thing we've ever done. Well, you know... Even worse than that MCU... You let us down that path. Even worse than that MCU ranking.
Vic00:09:26You can cut it all out. Oh, hey. Any feedback?
Sonny00:09:29Any feedback on the MCU ranking? People seem to like... People seem to like it. People seem to really like the MCU ranking. I saw... So, I...
Vic00:09:35It worked out. I saw Adam White at this work retreat that Kate was at and he was giving a talk and afterwards he said, "I'm really... I'm very... I'm very nervous and with some trepidation about listening to that bonus episode," and I assured him it's not as bad as he might think it was.
JVL00:09:55I was reliably informed by the one Jonathan Podhoretz... Oh, no. ...that while our bottom five was right, we were insane to not have the Guardians of the Galaxy and Iron Man, the original Iron Man... All the way up. ...as the top two.
?00:10:11Bah!
Sonny00:10:12Ridiculous.
JVL00:10:13I mean, I thought...
Sonny00:10:15Yeah, I thought Guardians of the Galaxy should've been a little bit higher, but he also thinks Avengers is terrible. Yeah. So, Jon Podhoretz does not know what he's talking about when it comes to movies. No. You can take that to the... And the Avengers had a little bit of a song and dance in it. You're listening right now, Jon, and I'm telling you, you're just wrong. You don't know this form of art called the movie. You don't get it.
Vic00:10:37Wow. That's... Santino, how are you, buddy? Sonny Bunch, what's going on?
Sonny00:10:41Excited. I can't wait to get text messages from Jon. J Pod about this, because it's going to happen. He's going to say, "Well, I know more, I've forgotten more about movies last year than you've ever known." It's fine. It's all right. I'm good. I'm good. It's been a weird couple weeks. I was in DC, as you guys remember, then Beth went out of town, so I had the kids, all to myself, and I did what I always do when I have the kids, all to myself. I went to a nice grocery store, and I got a good piece of meat, and I cooked it on my cast iron skillet. Oh. And it was great. It was fantastic. Fantastic times.
Vic00:11:19Did you do one of your 500 degree specials?
Sonny00:11:20You got to get the 500 degrees, man. If you can't get your oven up to 500 degrees, you might as well be a caveman in caveman
Vic00:11:27times. I could get it, but the whole place would be up in smoke, so I can't do that.
Sonny00:11:31So much smoke. I had to open all the windows. I mean, I have like a vent hood in my kitchen, and it's still, you just got to get all that out. But anyway, I don't know, man. It's fine. I watched all four. I watched all four of the Predator movies, not Alien versus Predator, but the Predator movies. I was going to say if you ever had to watch-
Vic00:11:52We talked about the last one, right? If you ever had to watch The Predator more than once- The black one. That's-
Sonny00:11:57I watched it again. I watched it again because I just watched all of them because I was like, "Ah, why not?" And Predators, which is the one with Adrian Brody and Topher Grace and Alice Braga and Laurence Fishburne. Not great by any stretch of the imagination, but at least a competent, decent action movie. But oh my God, that Shane Black Predator movie is so bad. It's terrible. There are things missing.
Vic00:12:27It's so bad. Poorly edited. Clearly, I mean, they just probably had so many different-
Sonny00:12:33Well, there's all sorts of stuff that happened in that. I mean, one-
Vic00:12:38Post-production disaster.
Sonny00:12:39One thing, they had to take out two minutes of material literally three days before it to picture Locke because, what's her name, Munn, Olivia Munn found out that she was in a scene with a sex predator. This was during all the Me Too stuff. Her introduction is just like, she shows up, it's just like, "Hey, it's Olivia Munn on my screen.
Vic00:13:00She's got a dog." You mean there was somebody who was an actual predator on the set of The Predator?
Sonny00:13:03An actual sexual predator. An actual sexual predator on the set of The Predator.
Vic00:13:08And they just took him out of the-
Sonny00:13:09And they literally just cut his material out, so her introduction, her whole introduction, she's getting hit on by this guy, supposedly, nobody's seen it, but she's getting hit on by this guy. This guy's hitting on her, hitting on her, and she's ignoring him and finally puts him in his place. And it's at a dog park, I think, and instead the movie just starts with her walking her dog and a van pulls up and is like, "Come with us to the secret science base. We'll take your dog." And we're like, "What the fuck is happening?"
Vic00:13:38What is the name of the villain in that who was in The People vs. O.J. Simpson? I forget his name.
Sonny00:13:45Sterling K. Brown. Sterling K. Brown. Sterling K. Brown. He's great.
Vic00:13:49He's the only good thing about that movie. But again, there's stuff, something going on there because it's like when we first meet him and how he's popping the Tums, he's got this whole character thing, but not quite enough and then suddenly he dies and it happens so quickly when he dies.
Sonny00:14:05Yeah. That is like ... We did a whole episode on this, so we shouldn't repeat all of this. I'm sure people listen to it like 100 times because all of our episodes are gold and you should listen to all of them 100 times, but his death in that movie is literally blink and you miss it. Yes. I saw the movie. I remember seeing the movie with ... I think I saw it with Peter Suderman because it was a press screening and afterwards he was like, "That movie was so incompetent. They didn't even show what happened to Sterling K. Brown." I was like, "They did. They did." But it was so quick and so darkly lit- He died in a tree. Didn't he die in a tree? Well, he shot himself in the face with the Predator gun that was on his shoulder. Oh. Is that what happened? It's literally like he turns his head and he gets shot, but they cut to where you're looking at it from a different angle and if you're not really paying attention, you don't realize it's him. Anyway, the whole thing is bad. The whole thing is bad, but I like-
Vic00:15:00The son in that movie who I found kind of annoying in that movie, he was great, however, in Good Boys. Yeah. Yeah.
Sonny00:15:10He was fabulous. I like him. I like him. The other thing about the Predator movies- And I'll move on from this. Watching them all again, it's really interesting watching Predator 2 because Predator 2 is very much- The one with Danny Glover. The one with Danny Glover. It's set in Los Angeles. It's like what if the Predator came to Los Angeles and hunted street gangs, but if you watch this movie, it really is not a sci-fi action adventure movie. What it is is a late '70s, early '80s, late '80s, early '90s crime panic movie. It is a movie that basically says- It is a movie that basically says, "We have this gang problem in America, what if we let the Predator kill all the gangs?" In LA. In LA. It has the most ridiculous gangs, it has these Jamaican drug dealers who are throwing chicken bones.
Vic00:15:59There's a voodoo element there, but also there's the, is it the Columbians or the Italians, and they string a guy up and then they gut him.
Sonny00:16:10Yeah, while his naked girlfriend is sitting there watching. Yeah, it was crazy. Yeah. Who the Predator spares, of course. Also, this is the movie where the Predator comes up to the cop and the cop is pregnant. The cop is pregnant with a child, and because the Predator is pro-life, the Predator is the- Spares. Predator is the Antonin Scalia of the Predator world. He's like, "No, I will not murder you, pregnant lady."
JVL00:16:39Also-
Sonny00:16:40Even though you have a gun.
JVL00:16:41She should have been, she had the gun.
Vic00:16:43Yeah, the gun is the gun. It could have been fair game. The kid, remember, because remember- The kid was innocent. The kid in the- The little baby, innocent. Yeah, because of the toy, but there was the other kid with a toy gun, and he says, "Oh,
JVL00:16:52it's fake." Yeah. Wait. So I never saw Predator 2. In Predator 2, the Predator is the good guy?
Sonny00:16:58Well, no. Not exactly.
Vic00:17:00No, but you develop, but you understand he's not just a killing machine like Alien, you
Sonny00:17:04know? Well, it's not, it's, I mean, in all of these movies-
Vic00:17:06They're here, they came down here for sport.
Sonny00:17:08Right. I mean, like, that's the basic premise of the first one. Because you like all of the guys on the team who are getting killed, it's like, "All right, this guy's clearly the bad guy." Yeah. But in Predator 2, the Predator hunts the gangs in Los Angeles, and yeah, a couple of cops do get killed. Bill Paxton gets killed. Bill Paxton was in it, I forget. Yeah, the Hispanic cop, I think, whose name I forget, he gets killed. But it's, the Predator kills almost all Jamaican drug lords. There's a Bernie Getz scene in a subway where some guys try and shoot some innocent bystanders, and this guy pulls out a gun, and then it's like everybody else on the train pulls out a gun, and so it's like the gangs versus the vigilantes, and then the Predator kills all of those guys, so it's very much, again, it's a very weird movie to watch, because if you watch it, you place it not within the canon of sci-fi movies, but it's the warriors, or Death Wish, or New Jack City. It's like in that group of films, really, more sensible.
JVL00:18:21And so who is the audience rooting for? So if you're a normal audience member, are you kind of rooting for the Predator to use for the killers? You're technically rooting for Danny Glover.
Sonny00:18:32Danny Glover's the hero. You're like, we want Danny Glover to take down both the gangs and the Predator, and also Gary Busey, who is in this as the government guy. Oh, he's the captain? Oh, he's the government guy. No, he's like the federal government guy, who apparently was supposed to originally be played by Arnold Schwarzenegger. Somebody on Twitter said this, so it must be true. But Gary Busey was supposed to be Arnold Schwarzenegger, and that's how he knows the backstory of the Predator. The Predator. That would have made sense. Anyway, again, Predator 2 is not nearly as good as the first Predator, which is a perfect movie. In every respect. But it's interesting and kind of weird to look at now with a little bit of distance, 30-some years now.
Vic00:19:22Yeah.
JVL00:19:22Victorino, how you been, bud?
Vic00:19:25I am doing great. I'm home alone. Hey. So early this morning, early this morning, oh gosh, they got up at 5.15.
Sonny00:19:34What's that noise?
Vic00:19:35Kate got the kids, and she brought them up to Connecticut and dropped them off there for a couple weeks. And she's coming back down in a couple days. And then after that, we'll go up to Jersey, Connecticut.
JVL00:19:47She doesn't want to stop and spend a few days with your dad.
Vic00:19:50And she can take her time coming back. You know, like I said, she'll be back. And then she's gone again. And then, but in the meantime, I'm just here. In fact, it's funny you should mention that. I did, like at the moment, I rented a movie, but it's on kind of a 24-hour loop thing. So if we could just hurry the show, then I can get back to watching it. That would be great.
JVL00:20:12How many? How many hours of Civ have you played so far?
Vic00:20:15None. I've been so busy. So, you know, I was at work and then I came back and I ended up cleaning more than I want. Oh, man, it's such a thankless job. You know, laundry and the stuff that she does and like scrubbing like the shower floor and the sinks. It's terrible. And look at Sonny's face. And so, you know, there's that. But you know what I look forward to the most? This is true. What I look forward to the most when I'm home alone is thinking. What am I going to eat? Because this is my opportunity to go somewhere that usually I'll get outvoted on or somewhere that perhaps my whole house would be repulsed by or somewhere I'm too embarrassed to admit that I want to go there. Like I'll drive by a place. Oh, that looks good. And nobody else. Right. Somebody would get that. I love pig knuckles. I really do. Of the of the German, French or Filipino kind. They're all good. Knuckles are great. But so here's for dinner tonight. I'm going to give you three choices to guess what I had for dinner tonight. OK, here we go. Yes. Again. OK. Number one, not great Chinese food. That means not the obvious. Like there's a Peter Chang's here, which is everyone raves about it and was written about in the New Yorker, the guy and the whole thing. So not that. But the kind of places that you drive by and it's just the kind of place that's basically takeout delivery.
Sonny00:21:36The place with the bullet bullet turf window. Yeah.
Vic00:21:39You know, very basic, very basic. Very. Very old school. Very bad for you. Chinese food. OK, which Kate does not want to go to. That's a that's a B supermarket fried chicken. You ever go into the supermarket and they have it's it's right. It's not the rotisserie, but they actually have in a bucket like Harris Teeter has it in a bucket. And sometimes the quality is questionable. Sometimes you'll get it where you see on the wing tips or the flaps. You can still see a little bit like where the feather was. They plucked it, you know, but it's a supermarket. Fried chicken killing Jimmy or three or C clam, which which I Kate bought from. I'm sorry. Again, clam, clam, which. OK, so Kate bought from Whole Foods a frozen box of three sixty five fried clams and I have brioche buns. So I could have put the fried clams with brioche and I have Duke's tartar sauce and could have had myself a clam, which. That would be something I might be trademarked. I should give it. It's probably a friendlies thing. Clam, which it's a lot not to be confused with fish of a jig, but the clam, which or the clam boat. So what do you think it is? A not great Chinese food, B supermarket fried chicken or C clam, which D all of the above.
JVL00:23:02I was going to say there's a D D. I ate everything.
Vic00:23:06No. OK, not D.
JVL00:23:07Oh, OK. I'm genuinely surprised. I don't know. Come on. I'm not an animal. Over the course of the day.
Vic00:23:13What do you what do you make? I'm not an animal. OK, go ahead.
Sonny00:23:17I would guess Harris Teeter fried chicken.
Vic00:23:22OK, JVL.
JVL00:23:25No, I literally thought you just did sampled all three. No, I don't know. If I had to guess, then I would guess not great Chinese.
Vic00:23:34Believe it or not. See the clam, which and the problem I ended up I ended up I ended up putting the whole box. In the oven, like on a on a on the flat baking sheet of all three hundred sixty five clams, three. It serves it's a serving of four. But you know what? It's whole food. So in this in tribute to Lord Bezos, I had his his his fried clam strips and I put it on the brioche with the Duke's tartar sauce. And it was a party the first time. The second time, the second sandwich I had because I had a lot of clams, not so great. And then the leftover clam strips. That's right. But I had an apple afterwards. Yes.
Sonny00:24:14Did you just did you just like put all of the leftover clams in a bowl and kind of pick them the rest of the night? Just like, you know, I like popcorn in my defense.
Vic00:24:24I didn't have a side. I didn't have like French fries or anything because that was crazy.
JVL00:24:27OK, you need me to come over tonight just to watch you, Vic.
Vic00:24:30So I don't want you like see me. You might see things go bad. I'm alone. I'm alone here. There's nobody there to help you. You might you might see me.
Sonny00:24:37You have your bracelet on. Oh, no, we lost him.
Vic00:24:44I passed out. And tomorrow I still have one more night. So tomorrow I'm thinking I might go to the diner, sit at the counter because I love the counter. Have a little corned beef, hash and eggs and maybe even a milkshake. Speaking of which, this week we're talking about gunpowder milkshake on Netflix. Sonny Bunch, how about a big boy review?
Sonny00:25:03Gunpowder milkshake. I when I was watching this movie the other night on, I guess, the Wednesday it was released, maybe it was the Thursday after it had come out. I was kind of surprised because I hadn't gotten any. So I like I I'm usually pretty on top of what's coming out. And I had not really been aware this was not on my radar at all. Netflix has not done a particularly effective job of getting information about this movie out there. And I was kind of surprised by that because it was a festival hits. People seemed to like it at the festival on the festival circuit. And I was just watching and thinking, like, I like this. This is this is nice, empty spectacle. It's not great, but it's it's fine. So Gunpowder Milkshake is about it's basically the shorthand version of the elevator pitch is it's like Lady John Wick. It's it's John Wick, but it's ladies a a we in the opening moments, a an older assassin played by Lena Headey from Game of Thrones and three hundred. She abandons her daughter and says, I got to get out of here. I got to go. And the daughter joins the sisterhood of the assassins and kills people for the mob, which is run by Paul Giamatti, I guess, kind of or he's like the go between and yada, yada, yada turns out that the the young woman played by Karen Gillan now and in her elder elder years or in her twenties has to save a has to save a young girl from being murdered by the by the mob because she her father stole a bunch of money. And then the the long story short, the people who he stole it for, everybody was going to die, including a little girl. So I don't I, I, I almost feel dumb recounting the plot of this movie because the plot of this movie doesn't matter at all. It is entirely in service of the kind of empty style, stylistic spectacle of the whole thing. And the empty stylistic spectacle is fine for what it is. It is. This is not this is not as good as John Wick. It is not the the the the action sequences are not as well coordinated. I really like a lot of the set design. I like a lot of the lighting choices. There's a lot of neon used in this. It has this kind of. I don't know, mid-century modern aesthetic that I like, but the but the movie as a whole is basically just fine. It's just there to look kind of cool. And in that it as far as that goes, totally, totally acceptable way to kill two hours on a Wednesday night if you got nothing else to do and you've got Netflix on.
JVL00:28:06I mean, that that is like the that is the level.
Sonny00:28:08At which I am assessing this movie, I liked Karen Gillan a lot. I thought she was I thought she was good in this. I like Michelle Yeoh a lot. She plays one of the she played. There's a there's a troika of elderly female elderly older female assassins. Michelle Yeoh, Carla Gugino and Angela Bassett. Thank you. Who kind of, you know, guide her along and help her out and save her from from the villainous men. And, you know, this this is a movie that I think in a in in a if you wanted to give it a lot of credit, if you wanted to give it too much credit, has something to say about men and women. But it's it doesn't really have anything interesting to say. And it's frankly not that interestingly, again, choreographed or shot. The action is fine and nothing more than that. It has a great look, a lot of great camera moves, a lot of great lighting. It's fine. It's fine. It's a fine movie. It's a fine movie. And I like I don't have. A ton more to say than that. I just I don't I don't I don't there's not a whole lot of energy to be expended upon this movie.
JVL00:29:17The one big movie short episode. I mean, it is I like I, I just don't have I don't know.
Sonny00:29:23I don't have it. I don't have a ton. I don't have a ton to say about this movie. So my big boy review is rambling kind of kind of on purpose because that's how I feel about it. But my one big critique of this movie is the same one that I have of a number of these sort of John Wick, knockoffs. There are a couple of movies out like this. Hotel Artemis is another one where it takes the the kind of peripheral idea of John Wick about this like underground world of assassins that have all of these rules and all of these rituals and all of these little things that everybody agrees to abide by. And we kind of see them as we go as the audience. We're kind of introduced to them one at a time. And and it creates a little mythology. This is what this is. Another one of these movies that takes. That idea and treats it as the most important part of John Wick, as opposed to the interesting thing that kind of made all the rest of it even cooler. Right. Like the the reason John Wick works is because it has great action choreography. It's it's got realistic looking stunts. It's got, again, really well, really, really well framed and staged and shot action sequences with like camera moves that make sense and things that are planned and not cut together. Right. That's the big difference here. And and Gunpowder Milkshake has one scene like that, the scene in the bowling alley, which is a really good fight and really well done and like actually kind of clever. And everything else is just is just it feels like it's kind of thrown thrown together. Every all of the other action sequences feel kind of like they're thrown together and not entirely thought through in the same sort of way. But it's easier. It is easier to create silly rules for an assassin. World Guild sort of thing than it is to choreograph a big action sequence. And that's why these movies, again, like Hotel Artemis is the other one that really springs to mind. Ape that part of John Wick and not the hard part of John Wick tape, which is the the actual action. So that's it. I'm done rambling. Thank you. Thank you.
Vic00:31:27So, look, we were able to stretch that out. JVL, what did you think and what did you did you just see it? Did you see it today, yesterday or watched it yesterday?
JVL00:31:36There is less to it than meets the eye. So it's. Yeah. So there was a time in the mid to late 90s when there were a lot of indie auteur type filmmakers and directors who want to make a name for themselves. And they would do these weird, stylized, cool movies.
Sonny00:32:01Right. And the great age of Tarantino knockoffs. Right.
JVL00:32:06But some of which were pretty good knockoff, some of which were very good. Doug Liman, a number of a couple of Tarantino knockoffs. Right. That's right. And you would see that there would be directors with significant talent. Right. Like Tarsim. Remember Tarsim? Tarsim. Just one name. Tarsim. Just one name. Tarsim Singh. He you know, he sort of like blew out and, you know, didn't come to but was good enough visually that you're like, oh, this is interesting. Right. So it demands a little bit of attention. Are you talking about the guy who directed The Cell? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And and, you know, you see little movies like this, like, honestly, the Reservoir Dogs is the classic movie about this. The Gunpowder Milkshake. Has it clearly it was it a pair of directors, a pair of Russian directors, I think, who know it's a woman, it's an Israeli director.
Sonny00:33:04His name is Nava. Shado or something. Oh, that was a man. I'll look it up. Yeah, I didn't know.
JVL00:33:09This is a guy who is who is not a top tier talent, just is not a top tier talent. And you can see it in almost every frame there. It's like, oh, we're going to have cool things. Right. Except that the execution on every cool thing, even down to the set design and lighting, just isn't great in the the writing is weak. Every it just sort of fails and you could see how if you had handed this project to a director with talent again, not somebody we like, right? I mean, give it to Michael Bay, right? You would have gotten something interesting. And what you what you got instead is not interesting.
Sonny00:33:52The director's name is Naba Pupusado, who is a he is again, Israeli born and he directed a movie. I actually really, really like with Aaron Chalets called Big Bad Wolves, which Tarantino himself like championed was it was basically like the Israeli reservoir dogs and is really interesting and like actually has interesting things to say about the nature of evil and that sort of thing and I don't know if if the downgrade here because there's a huge downgrade between like the step down from Big Bad Wolves to this. I assume you guys have not seen Big Bad Wolves. I have not. But the step the downgrade from Big Bad Wolves to this is striking and I wonder how much not having his writing partner working on this with him hurt him.
JVL00:34:45Yeah, it's it's I mean it's a mess and we can talk about the movie. There are there are things to like about it, right? There are you know again the Coen brothers, right? Imagine imagine the Coen brothers version of Gunpowder Milkshake and what that would have looked like, right? It would have been like half Raising Arizona. Half no country for old men or something like that, right? It would be interesting and this you know you the most interesting scene in it is a fight in a hallway of a medical clinic where the three bad guys are all basically crippled having previously fought with with Karen Gillan's character and Karen Gillan has had her arms paralyzed by by a bad guy doctor who like gives her shots to make her arms numb.
Vic00:35:37Who if you look at very briefly you think it's Peter Stormare, but it's not right.
JVL00:35:42And so you get this fight that is actually a little reminiscent of the the trailer fight in Raising Arizona, right? It's just weird and it's funny. You know, it's it's it's I love that and there are some moments like that. But then that just sort of the air comes out right there. So, you know, you get like, oh something interesting happening and then it just right. Yeah, and you see this even down to the casting choices, right? So the the the the gang member head who I don't have IMDb pulled up. These guys has this great voice and it's tall English actor.
Sonny00:36:18That's Ray Winstone, isn't it? No, no, no, no, not reinstall.
JVL00:36:21Oh Ralph Ralph Inison. Yeah, Ralph Inison is just fabulous voice. You know, you think oh that's a great bit of casting. But then the guy who is his heavy who is like running his army of it is just some random Euro trash, right? I mean just like you look at this actor. This is this actor brings nothing to a letdown to the screen. Yeah, and especially does bring something to the screen because he is paired up on screen with Karen Gillan and Lena Headey and Carla Gugino all of whom are really great actresses. So this again stuff to like about it. I really like Karen Gillan. I think Karen Gillan brings this undercurrent of comedy to everything she does. Like it's just it's always there underneath the surface and it serves her really really well because she can be funny without trying to be funny and there are things to like about it. But just yeah.
Sonny00:37:17Yeah. No, I it's exactly how I feel like there it you can't even blame this on standard Netflix bloat because this is not a movie that was made by Netflix. This is a movie that Netflix picked up right like a lot of movies like this, you know, you look at it you're like, Oh, okay. So this is two hours and 20 minutes long because Netflix makes everything two hours 20 minutes. That's right. But this is an hour 55. It's it's it's fine, but it could have been much tighter. It could have been again. I like it has pretensions that it does not know what to do with it has it has it has things. It thinks it wants to say about women and the treatment of women and men and but it does nothing interesting with that at all. Just nothing interesting.
JVL00:38:02Even just about what it is. So it presents itself almost as a fable and you see this in the the dialogue is overwritten and is intentionally overwritten intentionally stilted to to connote. I believe that you are not in the real world, right? That's right. I mean it really is trying to let you know. This is not the real world. This is a fable. We are in and we are telling you a story and that's okay. You're like, okay, where do we go with this? And but then it doesn't quite know what to do with that idea. Everything is everything is underbaked and so of course Victorino you're going to say you loved it, right? Oh, yeah.
Vic00:38:40First of all, I was very conflicted because I don't know. I don't know what I find more attractive Karen Gillan is human or his robot because I thought she was kind of, you know, there's something about the robot.
JVL00:38:51Yeah.
Vic00:38:51No, there's something about her. I that's crazy to say but you know, there's something about it. It's like ooh, you know, what's that? So it's kind of weird to see me. I don't think I had seen her in another movie other than as being nebulous. Duber. Yeah, Jumanji. Oh, is she in Stuber?
JVL00:39:07She isn't stupid even real. She isn't so Stuber is a terrible movie. She's in the first three minutes of it where she is Dave Bautista's cop daughter. Oh the partner the cop part. Oh, that's right. And you watch that and for the first three minutes. I thought this movie is going to be great because I want to watch Karen Gillan and Dave
Sonny00:39:24Bautista do buddy cop because they're in the they're in an elevator and I think he is talking
JVL00:39:29about his daughter having sex or something and she's She's like, yeah. Oh sure. She's still a virgin, right? And he's like right, right and it's hysterical and then she dies that anyway. Well, that's the movie I wanted. Yeah, you've seen her Jumanji. She's great in the Jumanji movies.
Sonny00:39:44I never watch the she's the red Robin Williams.
Vic00:39:47No, no, no, the Kevin Hart's I skipped all of them. I haven't seen any of those but good for me. I'm glad. Yeah, I haven't seen any. No, she's great. Okay. It's funny. You should mention by the way Tarsim. I think where I first heard Tarsim was I believe this is not by looking it up. I believe he directed the REM video for losing my religion.
JVL00:40:10I believe that's correct. Is that right video director? Thank you. And do you remember do you remember who the cell tried to turn into a serious actor?
Sonny00:40:18Jennifer Lopez and also Vince Vaughn.
JVL00:40:21Jennifer Lopez was a serious actress. It tried to make Vince Vaughn and not be a comedy actor and into a serious actor.
Sonny00:40:28Well Vince Vaughn Vince Vaughn has successfully made that that turn in more recent years. It just took him took him a little while to get there.
Vic00:40:35And and Tarseem not to be confused with another one named director.
JVL00:40:39Make G very different. All right.
Sonny00:40:42So what do you think?
Vic00:40:44Okay. So what I think I gave it about address. I gave it about it between about a B and a B plus. So the plot isn't a very easy to understand. I was a there were no disguises. No disguises. No masks.
Sonny00:40:57Never never had to reach over to Kate and ask you what was happening.
Vic00:41:00Stop. Okay. No, I understood very straightforward. Okay. Duration was barely made it in a but it was under two hours. It was under two hours. Okay, violence action a plus. Are you a you had a beheading?
JVL00:41:15The forklift beheading was pretty good.
Vic00:41:16Yeah, that was something it happens. I was like, what was always a forklift. Oh my gosh. It was great. Okay, sex nudity is an F and a few if some listeners rated movie a it's an R-rated movie be people think it's unfair. I got two. Two words for people who think that's an unfair grading. Those two words are atomic blonde. A plus. Okay, so I thought the same thing I for me. It was like Kill Bill meets John Wick and it's like, okay. It's like I don't know is it but then it's like it's too. It's too obvious. It's too derivative. There are things I loved about this movie. The car chase in the garage where she has to drive and it's kind of cute. I know but
Sonny00:42:00the little girl is a little girl can't use her arms. So she's right.
Vic00:42:03I didn't realize that that was permanent. I thought that she wouldn't be able to use her arms only for a minute. I didn't realize it was like that's it until she gets the antidote and and I thought that was great with a poor Porsche 944 by the way, which I spotted in a second because I had a an eighth grade teacher who had that as a car and it was very unusual because in parochial school, you know, the teachers in parochial school where I went to st. Joe's and months you're done with they make less than public school teachers, you know in Tom's River. So you are either very committed or you should be committed and you know, but it turns out he his father was very rich. So he drove around this point and it was a red Porsche 944. So it looked exactly like that. And I thought that was a great looking car. The the other thing I liked was the the hallway scene as JVL just mentioned where she came. It's original can't use her hands and just has to snap away in order to get the gun to fire. That was kind of funny. And what was the scene that you just mentioned Sonny also that I thought was very good.
Sonny00:43:11Oh the bowling alley, the bowling alley scene. I thought the bowling alley scene was probably the best choreographed fight, right? That's the one that actually looks like they put some thought into how it was lit and how it was framed and how it was shot. Yeah, it's like kind of backlit like a little wet. It's very I thought it was I thought that was very well done JBL is right though. I do think that the the hospital fight is better just because it's clever and it's funny or it's like more interesting. Yeah, you know the other thing that everything is so generic after that.
JVL00:43:40Well, you know, I kind of like to when so when she makes the handoff with for the kid the gang who has kidnapped the kid. They are all wearing monster masks. And so one of them is the wolf man. One of them is Frankenstein. One of them is Dracula great-looking mask. By the way, they really were good looking really I need that but then so they leave with the money and she goes to chase them and before these guys have even gotten out of the parking garage. They've all started shooting each other because there's such a gang who can't shoot straight man. That's hysterical. She's sitting there watching them do all their work for but then funny. She winds up in the end killing the guy in the vampire mask by driving a steak through his heart.
Vic00:44:19Oh little things like that. I thought we're like, yeah, right. That's it.
JVL00:44:22And again, it's telling you we're in a fable. Right, right. But then they bring you out of it with you know, Lena Hedy has this very funny line where hey, she's opening up a secret passage and Karen Gillan's character says, where does that go? Lena Hena says Lena Hedy is fucking Narnia. And you know, it's this like, okay, so hold on. I guess we're not in a fable, right? We're in a place of recognizable in the same way that they've got like, you know, literature draped throughout right? And I'm sure it all has been right. We're getting Virginia Wolf and Jane Austin and in that symbolism. No, it is symbolism is also taking you out. Of the idea that symbolism.
Sonny00:45:00No, I know, but I see that was that was in the real world. I get right again. That was that's the sort of like John wiki thing that annoyed me where it was like, oh, this is very clever. It's a very clever Assassin world. Yeah that they built when you know, or like the or like the like and the nurses station the little jar that they're supposed to put their guns into and everybody knows exactly right what to do and it's like, okay, I get it. You know, we all it's well again.
Vic00:45:26Yeah, because like in John wiki have the host.
Sonny00:45:28I'll intercontinent.
Vic00:45:29It's like the Continental right and then and then there you also have the diner but this is no good.
JVL00:45:34This is yeah, this is what really bugs me about that in and the egg the execution of this is incredibly poor in gunpowder milkshake in all of the places which are supposed to be part of the mythos of this world. None of the rules hold for even five seconds. Yeah, so in the diner the diner which is shot by the way at all sort of magic hour.
Sonny00:46:03Yeah, as if why was it was shot.
JVL00:46:05It was shot with with green screen right as if it but it was but the idea being that outside looks like magic hour as if the diner itself is on a different plane of existence, right? The diner itself is Valhalla or something and the idea is that like, you know, nobody's allowed to bring weapons in the diner and the very first time we're in the diner Lena Headey has a weapon and she shoots and kills somebody and then the next time the next time. When they're in the diner literally everybody has weapons every single person in there has got any really wait a minute. Hold on. So these rules don't work and the same thing with the the medical place, right? So we have this hospital that's like the assassin Hospital which has to mean that it's sanctuary that everybody goes to everybody knows. That's why she knows the rule, right? You put your guns in the cookie jar, right? Except that like the very first time we're in there. The doc is like selling her out and like isn't providing medical doesn't actually provide any medical care like the patient. Who dies, right? Like you can really hold on a minute. None of this works, right?
Vic00:47:01Yeah, that's the for me. It was the in-between stuff. So in between some very interesting action sequences you had just filler that just didn't work. I did have questions. Yeah, and it's funny. Actually, my first question on my script here literally says question. Where does this take place? Because that's what I was trying to figure out, you know, is it real? Is it not real Europe? Is it like Prague or Budapest and everybody? Loves it. Her, her license plate is CH, which I think is Canton Helvetica. So that was like, oh, it must be in Switzerland. But you know, I don't know. They could be in wherever Prague or wherever. I have no idea. It looked lovely, but also I don't see any civilians.
JVL00:47:42You know, I mean, yeah, one chef, no civilians.
Vic00:47:44There's a chef when they come out into a restaurant, but there's like the streets are empty, you know, and it's just like there's nobody. It was just really weird. So it's like extras, no extras, right? So it's not like again, they're floating.
Sonny00:47:56This was also a movie that was made for probably like 10 million dollars. I would guess I would it was it was a very yeah, it was a very it was a very
Vic00:48:06as opposed to like a Mission Impossible movie where they're filming it on the actual streets and it's mania and everything else.
Sonny00:48:12Okay, maybe like 15 million, but it was it's not an expensive movie.
Vic00:48:15This one the the next question I have is did someone else finish off the girl's dad because there was a lot more but I mean, where was it just he died of the wound.
Sonny00:48:28Well, the the somebody else killed I think. Well, I guess the doctor just let him die. Okay, I think maybe maybe he actually killed him. Maybe he actively killed him weird. It's a lot more. Okay, according to Wikipedia says this movie had a 30 million dollar budget, but I I don't I don't know what they spent 30 million dollars on.
Vic00:48:47Okay, Paul Giamatti salary. Okay, and the last question is where are they heading in the end because it looks like a Subaru. commercial they're on the coast there.
JVL00:48:58You know, I have some questions Victorino JVL. So the the librarians who I believe the idea is if so these these women who run the library with all the guns. I believe it is that they're essentially like a ninja clan, right? So they are they are the ninja who are hired out by the two the Dimos or what? I don't know the right the two the two ruling. With ruling houses and they use them. So they make all sorts of like weird choices like when that when Michelle Yao comes in and she's got a chain gun, which looks like a yeah, you know, like a like rock-and-roll from G.I. Joe 50 Cal that she's using and then she just like tosses that and picks up a chain.
Vic00:49:47It's yeah, it's a weapon wrangle people which is a little time-consuming considering. There's a lot of people coming.
JVL00:49:52I'm like you just had a machine gun right mate. Maybe you keep the machine gun. Yeah, and then they the similarly they have a Gatling gun mounted inside a VW minibus and it looks like they managed to kill two guys with it.
Vic00:50:08Yes. I totally agree including failing to kill the it's a damn Gatling gun. What can't you just wait for him to can't you wait for him to rush and supposed to just they do the salad. I see you see this all time. A lot of movies. Were that and then they're out of bullets. So I don't know you're right. And then she has to try to use the tomahawk.
JVL00:50:30I really it just that was frustrating. It was a huge guy. It was like, yeah, this machine gun. It was insane. It was like what but again as a choice, there's a choice. Why do you put a Gatling gun into the movie? Right? It does not play a significant role, right?
Sonny00:50:46Makes a cool trailer shot.
JVL00:50:47You only put it in if you were going to do something interesting with it. And I'm pretty sure you're right that they just knocked out two people with it. Yeah. And I have one more thing. Yes. Is it me or is Paul Giamatti about ready to play Billy Joel in the Billy Joel movie? Well, the late Billy Joel. Sure.
Vic00:51:09You can play late Billy Joel. There's probably closer in age, but he looks a lot like he's got a little right.
JVL00:51:14You know why?
Vic00:51:15Because you know, he's got the mustache go to teething.
JVL00:51:18Yeah, and probably has sort of the bags under the eyes and stuff.
Vic00:51:22Yes, really looks like Billy Joel.
JVL00:51:23Right?
Vic00:51:23He probably has. He has the fat fingers because that was Billy Joel's thing. He always hated that fat fingers. Yeah, that was that's how I felt about the movie. It just, you know, there were good parts, but there was, you know, interspersed with a lot of bad. So I think we all agree on that. Yeah, fortunately also, you know, I like I like Lena heady heady, but I can't see her in anything other than I keep on thinking. It's Cersei Lannister. So I just don't trust her.
JVL00:51:49Anyway, I choose violence. Yeah, remember what she was.
Sonny00:51:53She was also really good. Really good in the Judge Dredd reboot Dredd. She played the she played like the she played the crime boss in that movie. Very good.
JVL00:52:02She has been great in everything. She's ever been in great.
Sonny00:52:06I love I love her. I think she's fantastic.
JVL00:52:08I saw the first time so not the first of the first time I saw her. I was probably like the the Sarah Connor Chronicles on Fox live and I would tell you that I believe she is the best Sarah Connor. Wow, but I then saw. Many years later. I just rented this like little BBC series that she was a TV series that she must have been 18 years old in and it's about a priest in Ireland. Who's a young priest, but he's not like it's not like one of those bring you down with all his guilt trip priests. He's a cool priest. He's got a guitar and he wears sneakers and stuff and she is the girl in the village who doesn't believe in God anymore and and he starts working. Working on her and and maybe maybe they'll fall in love to or maybe she'll turn to God and embrace you. Who knows? Anyway, it's this preposterous show and it was just one of those moments when you're looking at bad, you know, bad TV and you realize oh that person is going to be a star because she's really good. Yeah, and that's that's Lena Headey great and everything.
Sonny00:53:18She does great in 300 lover.
JVL00:53:20She is great in 300. She's really great in 300. Do we have any more thoughts remember but powder milkshake? Anyone who isn't us is the enemy.
Vic00:53:32Okay, spirit of the week. We don't have a spirit of the week Corrections and shoutouts. Oh, what are you drinking? Jamie? Is that is that a glass of water? That's just wanted me to water and water Diet Dr. Pepper very as you would in Texas, by the way, so good shoutouts over the weekend at. At my wife's work retreat to listeners to the show came up to me very excited. I was very excited to meet them. One is Nick Gallagher and James Cunningham. So thank you fellas. In fact, I believe it was Nick who was he turned to his girlfriend or fiance and and said, do you know, you know that this podcast the Sub-Beacon and she goes no. And I said, okay, I was time for me to turn around. Okay, I'll see you later. Sorry. But anyway, thanks.
Sonny00:54:21Thanks for a woman is ever. No woman has ever answered. Yes to that question.
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Sonny00:54:49For the record. We have many lovely lady listeners. I just yeah, but I'm saying no any any guy who has ever like turn to a woman randomly.
Vic00:54:58And have you to impress a girl?
Sonny00:55:00Have you have you heard of this podcast?
Vic00:55:02You won't believe you won't believe this large-headed guy standing right here.
JVL00:55:06He's he's on the show. I was going to say in fact, one of our female listeners has been at my house the last couple days. Tanya McKenna Tanya McKenna visiting visiting the last family kidding me and it's been super family or just her just just on you. Their their daughter is awake. At camp and they're her husband's home working working working. And so she came and g-money has been stuck to her glue. That's nice g-money loves nice.
Vic00:55:35I remember I had lunch with her husband and you went out and they take you to some crazy sandwich place Monty's in Pittsburgh. Those were the days we stick the giant knife in the middle of the sandwich. Is that where you get the clam which no, no, you have to go to friendly. Just you got to go to you got to go to friendlies and I don't think there are any friendly south of New Jersey JVL. Is that right?
Sonny00:55:58No, there's what there was a friendlies and really 100% of friendlies in Stafford, Virginia. I know that. Okay, we're a fact.
JVL00:56:06I love don't know why they went out of there. They still was so Victorino. There was a friendlies in Woodbridge, Virginia when I first moved to Woodbridge and it went out of business and became a gun shop. But still with the same friendlies architecture like all the same friendlies architecture and and you know, with the double windows take out and then the gun shop went out of business and is now laundromat and again, the building.
Vic00:56:36That's very but unchanged if the building is a because it was a very trademark building. So now you're going in a you know, where they used to make the fribble.
Sonny00:56:44It's always yeah, it's always it's always funny when you get to like a what used to clearly be a Pizza Hut.
Vic00:56:51Yes. Yes, that's exactly right. There there is a barbecue. There's a barbecue joint up here called sloppy Mama's on Lee Highway. That used to be a Pizza Hut and the roof is so unmistakable. They're like, what are you going to do? You just have to wreck the whole thing or you know, you just just just roll with it. I am my thought is I'm just going to go for a run tomorrow to work out that clam, which my only fear is that I'll be like on Lee Highway when the clam, which decides to go Bon Voyage.
Sonny00:57:23No, no, sure. It'll be fine.
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