#31. 'Marvel's M.O.D.O.K.' (Hulu)
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The trio reviews Marvel's M.O.D.O.K. on Hulu, Patton Oswalt's stop-motion Marvel comedy about the AIM supervillain juggling world domination with a crumbling marriage. Sonny calls it "Robot Chicken by way of Marvel" — solidly plotted and genuinely weird (a turtle-alien sex gag he loves), but stretched into sitcom-length episodes when it should have kept Robot Chicken's rapid-fire 11-minute joke density; he's glad it sits outside MCU continuity but wishes it were two episodes tighter. JVL, though he agrees it runs too long, is struck by how emotionally earnest it turns out to be, reading the finale — where present-day Modok tortures his younger self to win back the family he sacrificed — as a letter from a 40-year-old to his 25-year-old self, and speculates the material is personal to Oswalt given his wife's sudden death and instant single fatherhood. Vic grades it Quadrant A- for plot, C for duration (thanks to Hulu's relentless ad breaks), A+ for violence/action, and B for sex/nudity, and quizzes the guys on Modok's comics pedigree and the show's stop-motion technique. Before any of that, the opening runs long on Sonny's new Quicksilver board shorts (and the ensuing mesh-underwear/Speedo debate) for his surprisingly non-Catholic-exclusive Knights of Columbus pool, Vic's jokes about RCIA and holy pool water, fears that Jeff Bezos won't survive his upcoming Blue Origin flight before Prime Day, a long nostalgic tour through CRTs, rear-projection DLP sets, and plasma screens en route to an OLED-vs-QLED-vs-TCL buying-guide tangent, a Chicago-movies detour (The Untouchables, Ferris Bueller, Adventures in Babysitting, young Elisabeth Shue as the Burger King girl), and a quick box-office check on The Conjuring 2, A Quiet Place Part II, and Cruella. They close, as ever, on JVL's outtakes report of his son Flash's absurd travel-ball pitching stats.
From the show notes
This week the guys review Marvel's M.O.D.O.K. on Hulu. Think " Robot Chicken meets Marvel." But with some depth of feeling! We also talked a bit about TVs and Prime Day deals ahead of the forthcoming sales on Amazon. This is the WiFi system Sonny mentioned ; it's $90 off he swears by it, as it transformed his Internet usage at home from barely usable to pretty amazing overnight. Here's the TCL family of TVs JVL mentioned. This is the TV Sonny currently owns . Here's Vic's TV:
Full transcript
Guest00:00:00M.O.D.O.K! And do you know what MODOK stands for? Mental Organism Designed Only For Killing.
Sonny00:00:08A.D.E.S!
Guest00:00:10For Killing. Where does he go at night? Nobody knows. Oh, no one took the cans out?
Vic00:00:24Come on!
Guest00:00:25Ah, shit.
?00:00:30Sub-Beacon, The Sub-Beacon
Vic00:00:38Hello and welcome to another edition of The Sub-Beacon. I'm Victor Matus along with Jonathan V. Last and Sonny Bunch. Just a reminder, The Sub-Beacon is now available through Patreon. Go to subbeacon.com, you'll easily find us. Please subscribe, tell your friends. And don't forget about The Sub-Beacon merchandise store at tpublic.com. It made me wonder, now that it's gone, it's getting really hot out there, do we have in the merchandise store swimwear? We should have swimwear.
Sonny00:01:09I don't think so.
JVL00:01:10Bikinis? Well, Sonny, you need to buy swim trunks.
Sonny00:01:15I bought some swim trunks.
JVL00:01:16Oh, you did? Did you get the Quicksilver board shorts?
Sonny00:01:19I got a pair of Quicksilver, but not the diamond Dobby ones, which I couldn't find on Amazon. Just like a different pair of Quicksilver board shorts. And I didn't realize that they don't come with a mesh.
Vic00:01:30No.
Sonny00:01:31There's no mesh underwear.
Vic00:01:33So it's a free-for-all in there. It's like Aqua Commando.
Sonny00:01:37I bought another pair of swim trunks as well, and now I'm trying to decide if I want to freeball it or if I want to get a— You don't wear mesh board shorts.
Vic00:01:46I'm used to that. I think you need some in there.
Sonny00:01:49Or if I want to get some compression undies or whatever. I don't know. I don't know what the deal is. You could always— They have those.
JVL00:01:57I'm trying to figure out. They call them surf shorts. I think. It goes underneath your board shorts if you need that sort of thing. Typically, that's for guys who are doing a lot of actual surfing. But you could do it.
Sonny00:02:12I don't want to go to the pool and have my shorts come flying off.
Vic00:02:16We could be like my giant Dutch brother-in-law. He prefers Speedos.
Sonny00:02:21I could do that. I feel like that would be a big hit. It's coming back. Oh, did I tell you guys that the pool that I joined is actually— It's the Knights of Calais. The Knights of Columbus?
Vic00:02:31No, it's not.
Sonny00:02:32I don't have to be— Is it really? I don't have to be a crusader. It is true. I can just pay money. The Knights—
Vic00:02:41I don't have to deliver fridges or whatever it was.
JVL00:02:46Victorino, he doesn't even see the Lord working mysteriously in his life, does he?
Vic00:02:50Yeah, no, he doesn't realize it. And also for people who— Sonny, you're so close. For people who need that sort of structure in their podcast, gentlemen, how are we? JVL, Sonny, Sonny. Okay, good. Now it feels complete. It just didn't feel right. That's what she said. Yes. You don't— It's the same thing with our— That's what Jeffrey Toobin said. In your face, that's what Jeffrey Toobin said. I'm back.
Sonny00:03:17It's the comeback tour.
Vic00:03:19It's going to be that kind of show, guys. It's the comeback tour. I hope everybody's enjoying this one. He said, "Quit jerking me off." I mean, around. Man, I don't know. Man, I heard he was just spewing off on CNN today.
Guest00:03:31Oh.
Vic00:03:32Just complaining about things. Oh. Complaining about things. Sonny, you know, the nights do open up the club to all people. That is true. You don't have to be a member, but—
JVL00:03:45Is that a form of evangelization?
Vic00:03:47Yes. Also, the pool, the water is actually holy water. I don't know if you know that. Did it sting?
Sonny00:03:52That explains why every time I jump in, the burning and the flames— It's like acid. It's like the devil's advocate. I put a finger in, and it's like—
Vic00:04:03Yes. He did that, and I still have questions about his powers in that movie. By the way, that movie was a serious Quadrant killer in so many ways, I think, except for—
Sonny00:04:14It's long. Yes. I was going to say duration. It's like two hours and 20 minutes long. It's real long.
JVL00:04:19I thought you didn't like the sex crossed with violence. Who, me? Yeah. I thought you said— Oh, yes. No, it's true, except for I had— You mean sex, but then all of a sudden it's a swerve, and you don't like that.
Vic00:04:31No, no, no. You're absolutely right, JVL, and that part really did disturb me. I'm talking about the part where Charlize Theron takes the robe off, but my TV was able to digitally remove the scars and the cuts.
Sonny00:04:41Oh, good.
Vic00:04:42Good, good. So, yeah.
Sonny00:04:44Really quick— Speaking of TVs—
Vic00:04:46Yeah, hold on. Let me just say a quick aside. This is a long time ago. John Podhoretz had recommended to Jay Nortlinger that he watch The Devil's Advocate, because he said, "Oh, it's such a great movie." Jay was so disturbed. He said it was so awful for him. It was traumatic for poor Jay having to watch that movie on so many levels, but it was really just quite, as you know, it's dark stuff. It's dark stuff. Although in the end, Keanu Reeves made the right choice. So where do we go from here? Oh, Sonny, your pool. You're in the pool. You're gonna go to the lights at Columbus, and you'll be doing the breakfast buffet soon.
JVL00:05:27What is your over-under for Sonny starting RCIA? Do you think he'll make it to August?
Sonny00:05:34I don't have time to go to church.
JVL00:05:38End of the pool season?
Vic00:05:39You know what? He's ... Yeah. You know what? That's not ... You stick your ... What do you call it? You dip your toe in first, and then there you go.
Sonny00:05:47There was a guy in a black robe walking around. He was shaking a thing. I didn't quite understand what it was.
Vic00:05:55It was like ... Yes, I do.
Sonny00:05:56I'm usually ... During the adult swim, he's like, "All right, all the adults get in."
Vic00:06:00Right. That would be me shaking the martini shaker.
Sonny00:06:03That's what I usually use. Power of Christ compels you. I don't know.
Vic00:06:06I don't know what you say during this. Wow. Well, good for you. That's one step in the right direction, Sonny. You were gonna say, "Speaking of TVs, how is your TV ... Who has the problem with your TV?" That was JVL.
Sonny00:06:17Well, there was ... A listener wanted to talk about Prime Day. Oh, right. Right?
JVL00:06:22Listen, can we get very serious for a moment?
?00:06:27Yes.
JVL00:06:28This could be our last ever Prime Day with Lord Bezos.
Sonny00:06:34You guys saw this, right? He is ... He's going to space. He's going to space.
Vic00:06:37You're worried it's gonna be like an Apollo 1 situation.
JVL00:06:41It's the first ever manned flight of his Blue Origins rocket, and he's going up in it. And I am telling you, in the movie version ... In the movie version of his life, this is how he dies. No, no, no, no, no. Or how he fakes his own death. Yeah, no. So he can then become even more powerful.
Vic00:06:59What I think ... You know what else he said is ... John Hurt and contact.
Sonny00:07:02Three days later, he'll show up at the KC Club.
Vic00:07:05Yeah. No, he's also building one of these wormhole devices, and he's pretty sure ... But you
JVL00:07:10have to check the security. Security was lax, they said. Anyway. He's actually going back in time when he gets up there so that he can steal ... Go back in time and steal Bill Gates. Steve Jobs, their brains, and like Cobra Commander creating Serpentor, he's gonna do a DNA project to make one master tech leader or something. That's good. That's good.
Vic00:07:35Yes, I wasn't sure if you wanted to talk about that for this, or what if- What if he dies? We have another week before Prime Day.
JVL00:07:40Are you guys prepared for what can happen if Lord Bezos dies?
Vic00:07:44When is the flight?
JVL00:07:45Pandemonium. When is the flight, JVM? It's like a week after Prime Day.
Vic00:07:50Oh.
JVL00:07:51This is, I'm telling you, this is how-
Vic00:07:53Who else is on the flight? Like actual experience people?
JVL00:07:56It's like five people. He's taking his brother. I mean, at this point, everything is fly-by-wire. It's all, I mean, the people don't do anything in the rockets anymore. It's all done by the computers. Oh.
Vic00:08:10Yeah.
JVL00:08:11That's not good. But, man, I'm telling you, just be prepared, because if he dies in a rocket blow-up, it will be the biggest story in America. Yeah. Since like January. Yeah. It'll be like Princess Di. Yeah. Well, okay.
Vic00:08:27But you don't think, now obviously there's a bit of hyperbole here in our discussion, but you don't think people are actually like news organizations, they haven't written up, you know how they do the pre-op, but you don't think they've gone that far.
JVL00:08:40If somebody, if the big papers haven't done that already, they're fucking crazy. Because you know what's really dangerous? Sitting on top of six stories worth of rockets. Six stories worth of rocket fuel. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like things go wrong. It's like sitting on a warhead. They go wrong all the time. They even go wrong when you've done them hundreds of times before. And they have not done this hundreds of times before. Yeah. It's really dangerous. Honestly, I kind of feel like the UN Security Council should come to Lord Bezos and make a plea from all of humanity that he not do this, that he not risk himself.
Sonny00:09:16Yes, to set an example though for the rest of us. That's right. We need to aim high. We need to set high goals and then achieve them.
JVL00:09:25Jeff, don't do this.
Vic00:09:27It's too soon. You're too young. Yeah. The world needs you. If the rocket boosters are Morton Thiokol, get off please. Okay. Sonny, what else? You don't know that? I don't understand the reference. That's because it's already after your time. The Challenger happened. That's right.
JVL00:09:43That's the O-Rings.
Vic00:09:44Morton Thiokol. And if you were alive at the time or if you were a kid, there was so much news devoted to that at the time. Yeah. The O-Rings. Now there's a documentary on it now that's back out on the Challenger and all the problems leading up to the rush to get it out. But at the time, there was a lot of ... So it was just in our heads that you just had to know that it was the booster rockets and the O-Rings and Morton Thiokol. By the way, JVL, did you know the Morton of Morton Thiokol is actually Morton Salt? Like it's the same company. I did not know that. Weird. Sonny, other than that, what else is going on?
Sonny00:10:18I still don't understand this phrase. The phrase that you're saying, Morton Thiokol. What does that mean?
Vic00:10:23Morton Thiokol was a company. It was a contractor who built the O-Rings. So it's like Northrop Grumman.
Sonny00:10:27Yes. Yes. Yes. They got swapped up later.
JVL00:10:31Gotcha. Gotcha. What else?
Sonny00:10:34That's the Salt version. Are we supposed to buy a TV for somebody? Is that what we're supposed to be doing? Somebody wanted us to talk about the differences between the various types of TVs. Oh, okay. Good. I'm going to use the bathroom.
Vic00:10:41OLED versus QLED. I'm going to use the bathroom when I come back. Let me know how it goes. So, Vic, do you have one of the televisions that are flat yet? I am looking at it. Is your television flat? I believe it's called Cathode, Ray. Cathode? No. It's got a tube inside.
JVL00:10:55It's a DLC.
Vic00:10:58It's only 18 inches deep. It's amazing.
Sonny00:11:01It's a Sony Trinitron.
Vic00:11:03I had, in my old Kennedy Ward apartment, a great one. It was a rear projection, but the screen was flat. You know? Oh, yeah.
JVL00:11:12I remember that. It's a Fox. It's a DLP, right?
Vic00:11:15It's a giant Fox. It's a digital light projection. And it was like all those TVs. The weight, there was such a disequilibrium where the weight was. It was all in the back. So if you carried it, you know, you think that you lift it equally, but no.
Sonny00:11:27One hand- It's all in the back, right?
Vic00:11:29Yes. So one hand, if you're holding it sideways, one hand is going to be heavier than the other. One hand is carrying more weight than the other. But not only that, but it had the built-in, I've told this before, I think, in a past episode, but it has the built-in DVD player in it, which was so convenient.
JVL00:11:45That's worth $600 right there.
Vic00:11:47I believe it was a Panasonic. And then eventually, but until the thing breaks and then it's just, you know-
Sonny00:11:53Then it's just a box. Then it's just a box.
Vic00:11:55Then it's stuck and your movie is stuck in there.
Sonny00:11:58It's still there. The first time I went to see Beth's mom and her husband, Mark, they had a DLP TV. And I remember he tossed me the remote, he was like, "Yeah, turn it on." I hit the power button and nothing happened. Like three lights on the front of it. It just started blinking. I was like, "I'm hitting the power button. What's going on?" Literally, the first time I touched the remote of this thing, the lamp, the bulb and the thing burnt out. And I was like, "I broke it, but I just pushed the button." He was like, "Yeah, I guess you were just the unlucky push to be the last time this was ever going to turn on."
JVL00:12:41So did you go out and buy him a plasma screen?
Sonny00:12:43No, I was like, "I'll go buy you a new lamp." And he was like, "No. No. It's fine. These things happen. It's old." I was like, "Phew." Got out of that one. And other more adventures in TV purchasing. I bought a ... I had one of the very rare ... This is a relatively rare, unusual thing. I had a 32 inch or maybe a 30 inch, I can't remember, cathode ray tube HDTV. I had- Ooh, the flat screened CRT. The flat screened CRT. I can't remember those. But HD. It was like 1080p. Or no, it was 1080i. It was not even 1080p. It was 1080i. And it weighed approximately 7,000 pounds.
JVL00:13:29What was the aspect ratio on it?
Sonny00:13:32It was rectangular. It was 16 by 9. It was 16 by 9, but it was just ... I think it's still in my parents' house somewhere. How much did that cost at the time? Pre-HDMI, so it was just the component cables. It was amazing. Do you remember the price? Oh, I don't. I couldn't remember that. I don't know. That's got to be 800 or 900 bucks. It was probably in the 800 range back then, because it was also ... I mean, again, it was small. It was like 32 inches or something. Oh, right. Right, right, right. It was not a big TV, except it was-
JVL00:14:08Even smaller than you think, because it was 32 inches on the 16 by 9 diagonal.
Sonny00:14:12It was 32 inches on the 16 by 9, and also, again, the density of a black hole. I mean, it was like, if you put it on a modern TV stand, it would just collapse into kindle. Kindling. Kindling, not kindle. Sorry.
Vic00:14:28When I was a little kid, I managed to get into my room an old black and white TV that had the ... It was not used, but you know what I mean? You plug it in, and it had the antennas on, so you can get just a couple of channels. The rabbit ears. Yeah, the rabbit ears, and it was black and white, and I remember what I would watch, which was Johnny Carson, because it was ... Let me tell you something. Great material there. I learned a lot.
JVL00:14:54I learned a lot from the man. How old, Victorino, were you when you got your first remote control in the house?
Vic00:15:02Oh, young, I think, because ... But I mean, I still remember as a kid- Was it with the cord?
JVL00:15:07Yes, of course.
Vic00:15:08The box. The corded remote control? It's the box with the cord, but before that, I do remember as a kid, like four, five years old, you had to go up to the TV. It was a Zenith. You had to change the channel. And it was wood paneled, and you had to change the channel. There was 12, and then there was two dials, right? One is the regular channel. The other one was the UHF one. UHF, VHF. Which sounded like there was a rubber band in there that would make this thing, but the box was great, because that's what allowed me access to channels 48, 17, and channel B, or 31, as some of my friends know. But that required a little bit of finesse. That required a little bit of finessing, and the results were grainy. Grainy at best. Nevertheless, I- They were good enough. They were good enough. To answer your question, I currently have a Sony down here. Good enough to get the job done. To get the job done. Really, all you need was the audio. But what I have now is a Sony. I think it's a Vizio. I don't know. It's from a few years ago now. Did you just say a Sony Vizio?
JVL00:16:04That's not a thing.
Vic00:16:05No? That's not a thing?
Sonny00:16:07What is a Vizio? Isn't that a thing? Sony's and Vizio's are just two different brands.
Vic00:16:10Oh, they're two different things. Well, I'm looking at it. So you're saying I have a Ford Honda?
Sonny00:16:13Okay, fine.
Vic00:16:14I could have sworn I saw the word Vizio on my TV, but I'm looking at it, and it says Sony. Bravia? Yes. That's it. That's it.
JVL00:16:24Thank you.
Vic00:16:25Okay. So we have a listener. So TVs, TVs.
Sonny00:16:28Who needed TV advice? Go. I mean, JBL, what do you have? You have a TCL?
JVL00:16:32I have a TCL, which is generally regarded as the all-time bang-per-buck champion. So the TCL 6 Series is... Is a 4K with a full local dimming array and contrast that stacks up against basically any other LED there is, or LCD there is, right? And to get better, you have to go to OLED and OLEDs are not yet where I want them to be when I make the jump in terms of price and also in terms of operating system. So I'm a huge believer in the Roku operating system, which is the Roku operating system is to your television as iOS is to the smartphone industry. It is far and away the best OS and it's super robust. It is not buggy in the least. It has support from everybody in the world. So I, I think it is worth staying. You could buy a 65 inch six series TCL right now for 500 bucks, 400 bucks. And then you can get yourself a 70 inch OLED three years from now for probably 500 bucks. So why, why wait until the, why just wait until the OLEDs are being made with the Roku OS, uh, and then get the 70 inch version of them for the same price.
Sonny00:18:13Now I'm, I, I don't care at all about the smart TV stuff. I actually, I don't use the smart TV function on my TV at all. I plugged in, uh, an Apple, uh, an Apple TV 4k to, to, to get all of the apps and stuff. I just, I don't, I don't, I am, I want dumb TVs. I'm tired of smart TVs. I don't need my TV to come with built in apps or anything. I just, I want to be able to plug things in and play them.
JVL00:18:40Once you have a Roku TV, you won't feel it. It just obviates the need for the Apple, but you don't need it on my, on my plasma, but you don't need it. Cause it's just in the television. Then you don't need the app. You don't need anything plugged into it other than your receiver.
Sonny00:18:55I like to know that I have control over what my TV can show me. It's not just like coming up with things and demanding, do you talk to your TV?
Vic00:19:03Like you can, I don't, I don't, I don't do voice search. It creeps me out.
Sonny00:19:09All right.
JVL00:19:10Yes. Me too. Yeah. Do they make the jump to OLED now or should they wait two more years?
Sonny00:19:17I mean, I, it, it just depends. I mean, your, your point about the money is right. I mean, OLEDs will be cheaper in two years cause they get a little bit cheaper every year. I don't think they're going to be $500 for a 65 inch. That's still, we're still a little ways away from that because I, I, I do think it's also like kind of, I think enough people don't care about the quality that much that they're fine with getting the non OLED software. Uh, screens. I mean, and I will, I'll be totally honest. The OLED, the black levels on the OLED are amazing. They're almost too good. Uh, I've mentioned this before that like any light in the room creates reflection and is slightly distracting. I'm going to have to get like blackout shades for my TV room just to, just to make sure that no, no ambient light can sneak in. Um, I will, I, the, the image on my TV is, is better than the old TV I had, but I will say that I. Do not, I, I do not know that it is necessarily an enormous upgrade in terms of contrast and color banding and all that stuff from the plasma, which is, uh, what I, what I was using before and what I still have in another room. I, I, the plasma screen I have, I, I will keep as long as I can, um, because it's, it's a nice big screen and it's plasma and it, it, the 10 ADP is fine, frankly, um, for the, for the purposes of that room. Uh, should people up there what they're, I don't know. I mean, again, it just depends on what you're willing to spend. If you, if you are happy dropping, you know, you can get the LG OLED that I have, I think is about $1,800 right now. Um, you know, the, you, you can get like 10, 65 inch. It's the, yeah, it's the 65 inch, uh, 65 inch LG OLED, whatever, not the newest, newest one. I think it's the, I guess. It's the 2021 version. Um, but the, uh, but I, if you get it on Amazon through prime day, um, I think you get 10% cash back with a Amazon prime card. If you have that, which I do, it's like, I, I save so much money on Amazon because I get 5% cash back on everything. Yeah.
JVL00:21:33And if you wait for the, the in memoriam sale after he gets his burial in space. So, I mean, I think then it'll be even steeper discounts.
Sonny00:21:45I, I, I'll have to, I'll have to look, maybe I'll throw some links in the, uh, in the, in the show notes of this episode, but I think you could probably get, if, if there, if you have an Amazon prime visa or whatever, the chase, the chase Amazon prime card, you get 10% cash back on TVs in this run up to prime day. And I think, you know, they're about, they're either 1850 or 1900 right now, which means for somewhere between 1600 and 1700 after you, you factor in the cash back, that's not a bad price. I mean, it's, it's, it's still expensive. It's way more expensive than the TCL for sure.
JVL00:22:23I think Best Buy is cheaper than Amazon on basically all televisions.
Sonny00:22:27No, I, I was, trust me, I was, I was keeping very close eye on this for the last six months.
JVL00:22:33I have bought three TVs recently, um, like two for us and then one for, for my in-laws and on all of them, Best Buy was cheaper to buy, you know, like 80 or a hundred bucks.
Sonny00:22:46Well, Best Buy has, Best Buy had the Vizio OLED, um, which was cheaper and I think exclusive to Best Buy. Uh, but I, I didn't want to get that one.
JVL00:22:57No, Vizio is crap.
Sonny00:22:58So I, I want to, I wanted to get the LG or the Sony, but the Sony is super expensive.
JVL00:23:03Also the TCL, I believe come with the Chinese communist party surveillance chips pre-installed. Well, that's good. Because it is. It is a, a fully Chinese company. They don't just make them in China. TCL is owned by.
Sonny00:23:16It's another good reason not to get TCL. You don't want to, you don't want to get that.
JVL00:23:19Owned by, a company founded by a guy who, uh, was on the winning side of the cultural revolution. So says his corporate biography.
Vic00:23:29Who did not have to, who did not have to swim across the chattel to Taiwan.
Sonny00:23:32So I, the, the short version is OLED is better than QLED. Um, QLED is still very good when I, when I kind of dismissively said this to, uh, our friend, uh, uh, Tony, Tony, um, on, on one of my, uh, podcasts over at the bulwark. He, uh, he was like, no QLED. I mean, look, QLED is very good. It, it, it, it does a slightly different thing. Um, the black levels aren't as deep, but the contrast is slightly better. It depends on how you want to measure it. Um, so I, I don't want to sleep on QLED, but it is, uh, I, I, I think it's probably not quite as good as OLED. Again, it just depends on what you're willing to spend. I, I, I spent a little bit more on this because I don't want to buy another TV for 10 years. Um, and I feel pretty confident in, in being able to do that.
JVL00:24:19See, I, I err on the side of go cheaper now because I want to buy another television three years from now. And I want, I want to get a large one, not a 65 inch. I want to get a 70 or 75 inch monster.
Sonny00:24:33Yeah. So in my, in the space where I have my 65 inch TV, that's about as big as spaces. That's about as big a TV as you can have in that space. I'm like, I'm about six feet from the screen and it like, if it actually goes any wider, it will be in the, uh, sliding glass door area. It like will be like, it literally just like won't fit in that, in that space. But that we do have another space that's slightly bigger. And one day I'll, I'll get the, you know, 80 inch OLED 8K.
JVL00:25:01Do you remember when you had your ColecoVision and you had to get a screwdriver to the thing that the rabbit ears plugged into?
Sonny00:25:09To RF switch, right? To RF switch.
JVL00:25:13Do you remember that? And you had to choose channel three or channel four.
Sonny00:25:16I had barely, I think we had a RF switch on my NES.
Vic00:25:20We, we, I think we just left the stuff plugged in the back of the TV. I don't remember. I don't have, I don't have any more memory about like how we turned on to switch to the ColecoVision. It just, it was, I thought you just switched to a channel and then you turned it on.
JVL00:25:32Channel three or channel four. That's right.
Vic00:25:33So it's probably what it was. And we had actually, we actually got the expansion module. So you could play the Atari 2600 games on there because you're just so amazing. Those games. I was like, wow, I really miss combat. You know, it's air sea battle. Give me that. So, uh, yeah.
JVL00:25:50Well, I believe that's how they got the input into. So before they had component video, the way it was, the, the set was essentially broadcasting a signal, you know, your, your console broadcast a signal hyper locally to that television,
Vic00:26:06which is why you chose the channel three or channel four, depending
JVL00:26:09on which channel you did not get in the area in which you lived.
Vic00:26:13Right. Either three or four. Well, yeah, we were, we were a four house, so I guess we used three, uh, one.
Sonny00:26:19I just want to shout out one more, uh, prime day deal that I, that I noticed, uh, the Eero mesh wifi system, uh, is like so well for you. You joke about this because it's not the mesh. It's, it's not the mesh that causes my signal to drop. It's literally the signal coming in from the house. And the mesh, uh, wifi system allowed me to understand what the problem was. So before I had an extender that just sucked. So the signal would kind of fade and get stronger and fade and get stronger. And then it would cut out. And I was like, ah, crap, what's going on. But what has happened, what happens now is that the signal just cuts out entirely like this. And then it comes back like this five seconds later. And it, uh, it, and it's, it's because the mesh is so good that I'm like constantly connected to everything, uh, but it's the signal from outside of my house that is, that is screwed up. So one of these days spectrum, one of these days spectrum, you're going to, you're going to hear from luck with that. Hear from my lawyers.
Vic00:27:19It's hard to keep track with all the meshes going on. You know, you got the mesh and the swim trunks. You got your signal mesh, so many meshes. And then I got the other mesh that I'm in that class action lawsuit with, but that's a whole other story. Sorry. People know that's a, well, you have to see if you'd be on the lookout for those commercials, if you, if you had the mesh, yes, you know, I have
JVL00:27:38on never heard them here though. I've only heard them in north Jersey. Yes. I've heard those commercials in north Jersey.
Vic00:27:44Yes. And there's, there's two, one that I thought had to do with hernias, but then the other one, the other one I thought was vaginal, so, oh, I thought
JVL00:27:52it was, was the mesh they will insert for people who are in danger of blood clots. Yeah. It turned out to be bad. I think that's the thing.
Vic00:27:59Yeah. And it was bad too bad as well. Something JVL, what's going on with you as we're hitting nothing, we going on too
JVL00:28:04long, I'll give you something in, in outtakes. Okay.
Vic00:28:08All right, great. I actually don't have a transition to this. So I'm just going to jump over to, uh, that's a very big head. You have speaking of which, actually, did you want to, did you want to do a box office, uh, discussion 30 minutes in well, you know, conjuring two did 24 million, uh, followed by a quiet place to with 19 and in third place Cruella at $11 million. Uh, that movie has already grossed more than $43 million. That must be an amazing movie, Sonny.
Sonny00:28:37Uh, I would say, uh, the most interesting thing is that the conjuring at 20, what was it? 24 million. Is that right? Yes. 24 million is something like, I don't know, 30 to 40% below what the previous conjuring opening weekends for that series is, which suggests that the, uh, HBO max, uh, deal with Warner brothers is starting to have an effect on box office take. Uh, we'll see what happens this weekend within the Heights, a movie that we're not going to be talking. Talking about on this show. Oh, tell you that much. Um, I already have to do it on one of my other shows, so I'm not, I'm not, we're not doing it here. Okay. Um, we're going to do infinite next week. Yeah. Oh, look into that.
Vic00:29:19That looked interesting. Okay. Good. Oh, by the way. Okay. So really quickly, um, uh, people were talking about, uh, on Twitter and you joined chimed in about Chicago movies and you said the untouchables. And then of course I said untouchables for great Chicago movies, uh, Ferris Bueller fugitive, and of course the blues brothers, and then other people said, what about it? Adventures in babysitting. And I said, that is a great movie with Elizabeth shoe care fall who happened to be also very good and leaving Las Vegas, which did pretty well in the quadrants. But do you remember Elizabeth shoe? Where am I going with this? Elizabeth shoe, uh, got her start. She was the burger King girl. You can still probably find it on YouTube.
Guest00:29:58And she was great.
Vic00:30:00I was a daily motion and she was prior to karate kid. She was the burger King girl and I loved burger King, except for the birthday parties because everyone got a crown and it never fit my large head. Speaking of which, uh, today we're talking about Modoc on Hulu. Uh, Sonny, how about a big boy review?
Sonny00:30:19Marvel's Modoc on Hulu. Uh, so this is a, I think the last TV show spearheaded by Jeff Loeb, uh, from the, the Jeff Loeb regime, uh, at Marvel. Um, it is outside of the Marvel cinematic universe, which is interesting in and of itself. We can talk about that a little more. Uh, but it is not connected to Avengers, infinity war, Spider-Man far from home, or any of those things. It's its own, its own separate little thing. Um, it is the, the easiest way to describe it is that it's robot chicken by way of, uh, uh, Marvel comics. Uh, it stars Patton Oswalt as Modoc, who is the head of AIM, uh, which is basically evil Stark industries. It is an easy shorthand to think of it. Um, he's a villain. He wants to, you know, take over the world and make it a, uh, uh, utopia in his image. Um, but, uh, problem for him is that he's got a family and he's got family life and he's got to figure out how to deal with his kids, you know, he's got a young son who is an ADD case and he's got a daughter who like him has a giant head. That's floating on a chair. Um, who is a little mini villain on all on her own and his wife is an influencer. So he's juggling, uh, Well, you know, life as a villain, uh, with his business, which has been taken over by a Google like company, uh, and life with his, his family, which is, uh, not great as the series begins, the wife wants to get separated and get a divorce. So here's, uh, as I said, it's, it's, it's kind of like the adult swim series, robot chickens, it's stop motion animated. Um, it is, uh, produced by Seth green, uh, there, there, it has this kind of wacky, uh, not quite as Dada Easter absurdist as robot chicken, but in a similar, similarly weird humor, uh, sort of vibe to it, um, that I don't think entirely works. I don't think the aesthetic here entirely works because robot chicken episodes are 11 minutes long. And the way that it's structured is that it just jams jokes in there. There's like four jokes a minute, you know? And it's really clicking, uh, on, on, on all cylinders. And in this show, it's structured like a sitcom. So the, the, the kind of the goofiness of it kind of wears out it's welcome in a way, because it's not quite, it's not quite fast and snappy enough to keep, to keep up the pace of that, uh, that, that whole wacky, wacky ideal. Um, that said it is, it's still pretty funny. I thought it was, I thought it was, uh, a. A solidly plotted, solidly scripted show. It's got very good jokes about Google and influencers and all of that stuff. Um, and, uh, the thing I, I, the thing I think I like the most about it is that it is separate from the MCU. It is not the kind of standardized, um, the, the standardized, uh, aesthetic and tone and quality control that Marvel is known for, which leads to a lot of unevenness. There, there's ups and downs in this series that you, you're not going to find, uh, on a WandaVision or a, uh, or a Falcon and the Winter Soldier, or even a Loki, which is out this week. The new, the new MCU show Loki is out this week. Um, but it is more memorable as a result, and just one, like, brief example, of this there's, there's an episode early on, I think it's the third episode, maybe the fourth episode where a series, uh, where a group of turtle like aliens from another dimension show up, uh, at a corporate retreat and they basically, uh, party, the people in this corporation to death, they, they part. And at one point, at one point, one of the characters shouts out, good news, guys, you can fuck them or something. You can have sex. With them. And they start having sex with the turtle and like, you would never find something that weird or that, that, uh, frankly kind of creepy and absurd on, in an MCU production, it just wouldn't, you know, even in Thor Ragnarok, which is about as weird as the MCU gets, you wouldn't see something like that's not MCU. That's that's, that was all crashed.
JVL00:34:58It is sneaky MCU because they have the crashed helicopters. It takes place in a post post, uh, winter. So, uh, it's not, it's not, it's, it's, it's in the X universe.
Sonny00:35:12They may, they may try and retcon it in, but it, you know, it, it references some of that stuff, but that's because it's referencing everything. It also references green lantern. That doesn't mean it's a fair, fair, um, uh, DC movie. So, uh, anyway, I, I, I like it because it is weird. I think it could have been slightly weirder and honestly, I think it would have been a better show if it had been the same number of episodes. I think it would have been a better show if it had been the same number of episodes. If it, if they had done the full robot chicken thing where it, where each episode is, is, you know, 11 to 13 minutes long and they're just jamming MODOK jokes and Marvel jokes and like weird, creepy sex turtle jokes in there, uh, constantly bang, bang, bang one after the other. It would have been, I think a little bit better and truer to that specific idea of. Of comedy. But I don't know. What'd you, what'd you guys make of it?
JVL00:36:10JVL. What do you think? So, uh, it's way too long. It is twice as long as, as you say, Sonny. Um, but here's the weird thing about it. It is the most emotionally earnest Marvel production because it has a very, a very genuine emotional core to it. Uh, which is messy and a little bit uncomfortable and I don't know if you guys watched the whole, the whole thing. I did. I did. So one of the things about Modoc is that Mo it is, he is not like Homer Simpson. So in his home life, he's not the bumbling guy who's trying to get it right, whatever. He isn't trying to get it right. He's a, he's a terrible father and husband. He is selfish and unpleasant. Uh, and through a bit of time travel, he bumps spoilers for anybody who cares about this sort of thing. Uh, he goes back in time and his 22 year old self, uh, sees what he has become, which is like a third tier villain with family problems. And then 22 year old version of himself who dreams of taking over the world and becoming the emperor of earth is horrified and you see little scenes of Modoc's life as a series goes on. Like for instance, his wife telling him she's pregnant and he says, how can I celebrate a birth when I have to plan a funeral for my dreams? And this is both played for laughs, but it's also very real. And the, the denouement of the series comes when, uh, the 22 year old version of himself starts traveling through time and like Dr. Strange in infinity wars, he says, I've, I've looked at all 5 million timelines and there's only one timeline in which you get to become the emperor of earth. It's the timeline in which I kill your family. And Modoc can't, he can't say yes, but he can't say no. And so the 22 year old version of him kills his family. We shoot forward and he in fact is emperor of earth. He's old Modoc. He is old Modoc. And he is. He is torturing the 22 year old version of himself, trying to find out how to get his family back. And this is a very, this is like a, a letter written by a 40 year old man to his 25 year old self saying, I know that you think it's going to be hookers and blow for the rest of your life in that you're going to become super famous and you're going to change the world. And that the idea that you live in a suburban house with a white picket fence and two kids and a dog is going to look to you like jail, but you have to trust me that you're going to change and it won't be jail when you're here. And that's a, like, that's a, that's except for you and Marvel movies don't do things
Vic00:39:30like that. It's the 22 year old who prevails over 40 year old, but this is in that way.
JVL00:39:36It's, it's the exact. Opposite of that, what was that horrible animated family film that we, we just watched a few weeks ago.
Vic00:39:43Yeah. What was that?
JVL00:39:45Not Harry and the Hendersons, the Mitchells versus the machines, which was all schmaltz in the service of like, well, they all look like they're bad parents and a bad family, but it turns out they love each other and everything is okay. This is much messier. This is, uh, this is about grappling with the idea that you change as a person, as you grow and that the things which you once saw as a form of imprisonment are actually the good stuff and the stuff that you will learn to cherish, even as you hate it. Yeah. It will become important to you even if it isn't, you know, a Hallmark card.
Sonny00:40:27Yeah.
JVL00:40:28That's a really deep.
Sonny00:40:30The payoff on this, the payoff on this season and frankly series, cause I don't think there's going to be a second episode. It shouldn't be. Second season. Um, the payoff at the end of this season is fantastic. It's a, it, for as much of a slog as the show is in, in parts in the middle, it could have been done in five episodes, the whole thing could have been done in five episodes. There are ups and downs there, there, there, there's a whole, you know, team up with the minor villains episode, which like, again, is like kind of funny and has some, has some good jokes in it. I like that a lot. But like at the same time. It's just filler. It's filler. It's filler episodes. A lot of the stuff with the Google, uh, corporate, the E the living corporation or whatever is again, it like doesn't actually pay off anywhere. It's a, it's a, it's a distraction from the actual, but maybe it's Ness. I, I got, I hate to criticize it because I think it, I think it all basically works as a piece of storytelling. It just, I, I just needed it to be tighter. I just needed it to be like two episodes. If you, if they could have gotten it two episodes tighter, even at this length, I think it would
JVL00:41:36have, it would have worked, but Victor Victorino, would you think, well, you know, the man of
Vic00:41:41the people I, yes, I tend not to, I don't think I do quadrants the line about giving hand jobs behind the R that will just kill with you talking, uh, uh, a series, a series quadrant score. The plot, the plot is an a minus. It's pretty easy to understand. It's pretty straightforward. He wants his family back duration. I gave it a C. Um, I also have the cheap version of Hulu that has about 20 commercials jammed in there. Yeah. I don't know how you would have Hulu kills you with commercial. Oh my God. I had no idea because I've watched movies on Hulu and the only, they don't interrupt the movie.
Sonny00:42:15Uh, do you guys wait, do you guys both have the commercial one?
JVL00:42:18I, you know what? I actually switched over to the paid ver to the, the expensive version, um, just for this.
Vic00:42:25And then I went and canceled the expensive version as soon as I was done because I was,
Sonny00:42:30I was watching it. I kept seeing where the commercial breaks were. Yeah.
Vic00:42:33There's like six breaks per, per 30 minute episode. Yeah. It stretches it out and, and it's, you know, they have the little, uh, countdown clock to tell you how much the ad, how long the ads are. And it's about two minute breaks for each fucking hour. It's a minute and a half. And I stare those seconds, those seconds. It's like the, it's like the Christian Laitner shot would have been like two minutes instead of two seconds by that counting. You know what I mean? It's like so slow as it ticks down to zero. Um, so it got to see, uh, violence actions and a plus very funny. Um, and sex nudie kind of gave it a B, you know, there's some parts, uh, pretty funny. Um, I, I liked it. Uh, I did think it was on the long side. Um, I have questions, uh, like where, where, I mean, I, I, I had, yeah, I had to look into all of this cause I thought they just made up these characters, but of course they're all real, but, uh, and they're sort of like D list villains. But the question is, is Modoc himself one and doesn't recognize that he is. I, how is he treated in the Marvel universe? Where's Modoc from and what, what comic book is he in?
Sonny00:43:42He's human. Modoc is Avengers and Iron Man, I think, uh, and he, uh, I mean, I would, I would classify him as a, as a B tier villain, not, not a total joke, but also minus C plus, not a real, he's not Mr. Sinister as we see in the nightclub B minus C plus level villain.
Vic00:44:03Um, is he, uh, what is his personality? Like in the comics, in the comics is just very serious and nothing like this, obviously I would assume. Yeah. I mean, he's this little guy with a Napoleon complex who I'm going to rule the world. Oh, okay. So that is okay. All right.
Sonny00:44:19Yeah. Interesting. Um, I was kind of surprised to see arcade show up who I'm pretty sure. I don't know.
Vic00:44:25That struck me as a DC thing, but no, it, cause it's very joke.
Sonny00:44:28Real. He's a, he's a, he's a, he's a Marvel villain. Okay. I always can, I always think of him as an X-Men villain for some reason, but he, I think kind of is just a free, he just shows up wherever.
Vic00:44:38Yeah. Um, I like the, I like the, I like the various little spoofs they do. Uh, Sonny, did you recognize the spoof of the, the mad men carousel spoof? Did you like that? Yes. That was very good. Of course there's the Ken Burns.
Sonny00:44:52Again. That's the sort of thing that you could do. You do, you do like briefly and then you flash to the next joke, like on, on robot chicken, that would have been a like three second joke that they returned to, you know, maybe four times.
Vic00:45:04You got to stretch it out. I also like the idea. It's like, I liked the pixelated mandrill genitalia was very funny. It's very funny. It's a half door. It's just a stick. It's a, um, armadillo. I mean that, that, that's, that, that's still for me that that really worked. I thought it was great.
Sonny00:45:19We're, we're all of those, uh, like bottom feeder villains. Real. I looked into it.
Vic00:45:26They were. Yes. I look, I didn't check into the, I didn't check the one, uh, voice by bill hater, which is the, um, the angle like singer, the, yeah, the, the, the, the has been rockstar, which is hilarious. Um, but the other ones were including what be Goldberg who voiced pouncy, I think is her name. I mean, I, I think, but, uh, melter, I mean, and, and of course, uh, iron man was voiced by John Hamm. It was very good.
Sonny00:45:47I did not even realize that until I looked. Yeah.
Vic00:45:49I had to look it up. I mean, it sounded like it and what be Goldberg. I recognized that as well, but otherwise, I mean, I, I, John Hamm, once again, begging
Sonny00:45:55people to think he's funny, but it's like his, his whole post madman career is right. He's doing comedy being like, come on, tell me I'm funny bridesmaids, but it works.
Vic00:46:06I like it.
Sonny00:46:06All right. I like it.
Vic00:46:08Funny. Um, John. Yes. Uh, so they go back. Monica is his rival at aim. Right. Uh, and she, uh, they had, there's a joke about how she killed a Marvel superhero. And then the joke is they don't tell you who it is. Um, but I'll tell you, it looked like, um, what's his name? Ryan Gosling, not Ryan, uh, Ryan Reynolds is a, a superhero who, who, who Deadpool Deadpool. It looked like Deadpool, but I don't know. I don't know if that was supposed to. The joke.
Sonny00:46:37I don't think, I don't, I think the joke is just, well, Deadpool, it's not an Avenger as well.
Vic00:46:41All right. Mm. Uh, but no, I, so I, I thought, I thought it was funny, although I thought it was a little bit on the long side. Um, and, uh, yeah, a great sort of cliffhanger ending about how is he going to get his family back? But you guys are suggesting that he, that he doesn't or that, that there is no, uh, season two.
Sonny00:46:58I would, I, I, my understanding and I don't have any particular insight into this is that that everything that Jeff Loeb has done is, is done and is finished. Oh, oh, right. I think it's all. What happened to, what happened to Jeff? It's all been, it's all been pulled under, under the umbrella of Kevin Feige and
Vic00:47:17the MCU. What happened to Jeff Loeb? Did he decide to spend more time with his family? Was he looking for a new event? Yeah.
Sonny00:47:22New, new opportunities? I, I honestly, that's, that's internal Marvel stuff, I don't know.
JVL00:47:27Yeah. Yep. Can I, JVL. I mean, just, I'm looking at my notes, uh, didn't, neither of you were struck by how great it was. I was wondering, Amy Mann cover Third Eye Blind.
Vic00:47:38Oh, was it Amy Mann singing that? Oh, yeah. I was, I was wondering because it was, it was a very nice version of that song.
Sonny00:47:45I just thought it was funny that they used Third Eye Blind, which is like the perfect, which is the perfect, like late nineties. Yeah.
Vic00:47:51Yeah. I have that. That's the only CD I own is that one.
JVL00:47:54But it's got all the good stuff in there. And the, the, the, the villain from Grumble modeled off of Gavin Belson from Silicon Valley, which was fabulous. Yeah. I appreciate that.
Sonny00:48:04Voiced by Beck Bennett. Beck Bennett. I love Beck Bennett.
JVL00:48:06Uh, yeah, I, you know, the, the whole thing, the, the other thing, and I, I am, I hesitate to bring this up, but I will do it only because we have a Patreon show and so this won't be done widely. So Patton Oswalt, uh, wrote and co-executive produced this, and a lot of him is in this. And I wonder if this isn't very personal to him because Patton Oswalt has had, uh, kind of a rough road. So he is, you know, basically Portland's comedian nerd in residence, uh, a beloved figure in the, both the standup scene and in the comic book scene from Portland, uh, and so not Portlandia, but actual Portland, actual Portland. And a few years ago, his wife died very suddenly and, you know, one of these, you know, horrible things very young. Uh, with no warning and you know, he's a single dad all of a sudden. And I just wonder, I mean, this is a guy who has always wanted to make it despite the fact that he's funny looking and he's a nerd and all this stuff. And suddenly he's a single dad and I, I just wonder if there is, if that stuff is pinging around inside the, I wonder if this is the actually in a weird way, if the, the stop animation series on Hulu full of dick jokes is actually the most personal emotional story any Marvel's property has ever told. Yeah.
Sonny00:49:46Uh, I mean, I, I think it certainly of this like generation, uh, of Marvel stuff, I, I, I don't know.
Vic00:49:56I mean, it, it, it, and, and, and Patton also, I mean, he, he, he gets work. I mean, he was the voice of Ratatouille, you know, Ratatouille. And he had a, and he had, and he had a great character role in Veep, sort of the molesting political consultant. He's great.
JVL00:50:15He's great in everything he does.
Vic00:50:16I love Patton Oswalt. Yeah. I hate his politics, but he's fine. So.
JVL00:50:20And he's, he's good in this. Yeah. And so I, I mean, again, maybe, maybe he came in, um, as a writer after, you know, the main arc was already established by Jordan Blum and, uh, I think he's, I'm pretty sure he's
Sonny00:50:35the short, the show runner.
JVL00:50:36I think he can in, I think he and Jordan Blum are the co-executive, but yeah, but I, I, as I was watching this, all I could really think was that a lot of this is old Patton Oswalt trying to talk to young Patton Oswalt and, uh, there is something very deep and very true about how these things that are, you know, it isn't a Hallmark card, right? I mean, the family life is like, it's messy. But a lot of these things are burdens and, you know, a lot of times in fun, but it changes you in fundamental ways, uh, even if you don't exactly like super duper love it all the time. And I don't know, I just thought it was like a, a very honest and uncomfortable and also true thing for a weird robot chicken show to be saying.
Vic00:51:31Well, certainly, you know, what you value or what, what gives you most, uh, uh, happiness when you're, you know, our age is different than what you thought it would be when you were, you know, starting work when you were like 22 or 23 and, and the only, you know, and I, when I talk to kids about in general about, you know, career choices and things, I always say, you know, I mean, it's, you know, try to, try to do the job that you love the most because you know, you can move around and you're, and you're mobile, you don't have any dependence. You can do all these different things. And when you're, uh, because when you get to our age, the, the, the priority is how much money you need to make in order to support your family. You know, which is, that's the only thing that really matters is do I have enough, you know, cause you have to go to school or this or that, and that's it and, and, and, and, and being comfortable, you know, and if you can do something great, great. But you know, that, that, that shifts because of these other responsibilities. But anyway, I have a technical question, which is how do they do this? Is it all just CG? I mean, it's all computer animated stuff to make it look like a stop motion or they actually do the stop motion.
?00:52:36Wow.
JVL00:52:37Yeah. There's a studio that does this. It's really like, like the old Rudolph, the red nose reindeer style. Yes. Oh, that's impressive. I just figured sculpting the sculpture work on them is gorgeous. Oh, that's really great because I just assumed that they just use computers to make it look
Sonny00:52:51like that. I don't know about gorgeous. I, there's like a, there, there's a, a clunkiness to it that I find very charming.
Vic00:52:57Oh, I love it. Yeah. It works much better than if it was just an animated series.
JVL00:53:02I don't know. I mean, when people are holding iPhones, you can see. The, the lines in the, the silver bezel on the iPhone, you know, they always iPhones typically have that, you know, that break in the best, I think it's pretty great. Yeah. Very good.
Vic00:53:18Yeah. Okay. All right. Uh, any other thoughts on Modoc? So, so, uh, this next movie you mentioned is, uh, Loki that's coming up the next, that's a series also. Yeah.
Sonny00:53:29That's well, that's on Disney plus Disney plus and first, first episode just dropped and that is going to, oh, and Wilson is back. I saw that.
Vic00:53:36He's great. I saw that. And so that is going to be connected to the Marvel Universe. Yeah.
Sonny00:53:40That's all MCU. Post.
Vic00:53:42It's very, it's very, yeah. So I mean it.
Sonny00:53:44Post Infinity War. Uh, so the way, the way it works is the, the Loki in this, uh, series is the, the Loki who in end game. Vanished. Uh, vanished, but remember in Infinity War, the previous one, Thanos killed him. Yes. So like in the, in the real timeline, he's dead. This is an offshoot. The, the, the, the like kind of thrust of the series is Owen Wilson works for the time variance authority, which is the, the, you know, hyper, uh, mystical organization in charge of keeping the timeline straight. This Loki who has escaped is, should be destroyed because he creates a whatever the long, the long and the short of it is he, he is, he is a, uh, a variant who needs to be eliminated and does not want to be eliminated.
Vic00:54:35Uh, you know what? I want to watch it, but already on the plot I'm, we're nearing between a D and an F.
Sonny00:54:40It would be very amusing to get, I, I would actually be interested in like week by week. What is happening? What I think is happening. Vic explains Loki.
Vic00:54:50No, I mean, it's, it's right up there with like Terminator time travel thing. I mean, it's just all fucked up. So, uh, anyway, but I, I will watch it. Here's a question when they do these kinds of shows, do they have to, are they not allowed to show clips of like previous movies with other famous actors? I don't know. I guess these shows studiously avoid that.
Sonny00:55:08You know? Well, so in this, in this one you, they had clips from Avengers end game. So there were, there were, uh, or there were, there were clips of like Robert Downey Jr. and Chris Hemsworth and all those guys. But very interestingly, Robert Redford, who famously was in Endgame, not in, not in Loki at all. He does not make an appearance in the flashbacks.
Vic00:55:31Yeah. He was, yeah, because he was in shield, right? That was his.
Sonny00:55:34Yeah. Cause he's there.
Vic00:55:35He's there when they're, they're making, he was there at the old free beacon office. That was that. That headquarters. Okay. Good. Uh, all right then. Uh, moving right along. Spirit of the week.
Sonny00:55:46You guys drinking anything? Diet Coke.
Vic00:55:48Okay. Drinking. All right. Um, corrections, shout outs. Anything? Nothing. We're good.
JVL00:55:55I don't think, I don't think I have anything.
Vic00:55:56Nice. All right. That is all the time we're giving to this episode. Questions, comments, compliments, tweet us at Sonny Bunch at Victorino Mattis. Again, be sure to subscribe to us on Twitter. On Patreon, just, um, uh, go to some beacon.com. We are there.
Sonny00:56:10Tell your friends until next time.
JVL00:56:21What's going on? So a flash has concluded his regular season of travel ball and, uh, so they, they keep advanced stats. The travel league level, uh, which is hysterical, uh, you can't get like war, but you can get things like whip and all sorts of, you know, barrels and stuff like that, uh, in 16 innings. This is more, I, I say this, Vic, this will all be lost on you, but for like Ryan, who's listening to this, this will make you laugh out loud. Ryan flash pitched 16 innings this season. He finished with 40 Ks. The opposing batting average against him 0.096 and the batting average against with runners in scoring position 0.08 ridiculous. I'm sure it's fine, Sonny. You're just staring right at me.
Sonny00:57:32Come on. I mean, those are good numbers. It's good numbers. You're just striking out those kids not putting they're not putting what it's what's the batting average with balls in play?
JVL00:57:41JBL with balls in play. I would have to go pull that up. Hold on a second. Not a lot of balls in play. Babbitt for 17.
Sonny00:57:56So when they hit the ball, they hit it hard.
JVL00:57:59No. Balls hit hard is zero. Point zero percent. So nobody hit nobody hit him hard. This is possibly a commentary on the fielding. Wow.
Sonny00:58:16So you're saying he doesn't have backup in the field?
JVL00:58:20I wouldn't say that. I would say I would say these are 12 year old kids.
Sonny00:58:23I think you are saying that.
JVL00:58:25I'm sure it's fine.
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