#24. 'The Kid Detective'
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The main film is The Kid Detective (2020), the indie noir-comedy starring Adam Brody. Sonny pitches it as "Encyclopedia Brown but older" — a washed-up former child detective, still haunted by the assistant he failed to find, tasked with a real murder — and gives it a big thumbs up for its tricky comedy/noir/Wes Anderson tonal blend, a structure reminiscent of Brick, and a Brody performance so good it surprised him (down to a C-word aside that made him guffaw). Vic lands on a B-plus and publicly recants his earlier crack that Brody wasn't working much, calling him fantastic and singling out the drawn-out closet-hiding bit as the funniest thing in the film. JVL liked but didn't love it, hearing echoes of The Big Lebowski and Brick. The hangout leads with JVL's blissful solo week at the beach — coffee on the sand, sleeping to the waves, reading le Carré's The Honorable Schoolboy, the Gospel of John, and Cicero, and returning feeling "better than everybody else" (with a long le Carré appreciation of the Alec Guinness Tinker Tailor). Vic reveals he's been on dupilumab (dupixent) injections every two weeks for his eczema — dubbing it his "Wolverine blood" and citing a study suggesting it left him largely COVID-protected — while resisting the actual vaccine, and closes on a Bourbon Steak wagyu dinner that triggered a passing Gatwatch gout twinge.
From the show notes
Did the guys love The Kid Detective ? Why does Vic have Wolverine blood? Why does JVL seem so relaxed? Where is Sonny asked to wear a mask? All these questions and more answered on this week's episode of the Sub-Beacon!
Full transcript
Vic00:00:00I used to be loved. I used to be a kid detective.
Sonny00:00:04We're all really counting on you.
JVL00:00:06I was so far ahead of the game. But one day I just woke up behind.
Guest00:00:13This guy in my homeroom claims he practiced with the Mets. I need to find out if he's lying.
Vic00:00:18He's lying. Hello and welcome to another edition of the Sub-Beacon. I'm Victor Matus along with Jonathan V. Last and Sonny Bunch. Just a reminder, the Sub-Beacon is now available through Patreon. Go to subbeacon.com. You'll easily find us. Please subscribe, tell your friends, and don't forget about the Sub-Beacon merchandise store at tpublic.com. Gentlemen, how are we? JVL, what is going on?
JVL00:00:55I am tanned, rested, and ready.
Vic00:01:00Oh, that's great to hear.
JVL00:01:01I just got back from a week at the beach, which is not special, right? Here's the special. Now put the drink down. I don't want you to spit it all over. A week at the beach by myself.
Sonny00:01:16What?
Vic00:01:17Boom! How did you get to do that? You must be worn and exhausted.
Sonny00:01:22Were you down there building the doors to replace in yourself instead of, you know, paying $30,000 to have them done?
JVL00:01:29No. My beautiful, lovely bride said to me a couple of weeks ago, you know, you haven't really had a break in like two and a half years. You need some time. You need some time to yourself. Go down to the beach. I got the kids. Wow. I said, I'll take some of them. She said, no, no, that defeats the purpose.
Vic00:01:49Just go. You know, JVL, every time that you did your good deeds around the house, taking care of kids and things, whatever it is you have to do, whatever it is. You know, in my mind, it's always like stick that stick that chip up your sleeve. Right. And just wait. Just keep. Is that the phrase? Chip chips. Keep your chips. Chips.
Sonny00:02:12And just, you know. And I'm not 100 percent sure where you're going with it.
Vic00:02:14Anyway, sticking chips. And then you cash out. Then you can cash out those chips. And all of a sudden. Aha. There's your week alone. Cash.
Guest00:02:21Cash.
Vic00:02:22Cash out the chips. You know what I'm talking about? It's a great start to the show.
JVL00:02:27Thank you.
Sonny00:02:28Every every morning.
JVL00:02:29I. Took. My. Coffee. Out.
Sonny00:02:34Onto the beach. Onto your veranda. No, no. Out onto the beach.
JVL00:02:38I have a deck. I have a deck. But I took my coffee out to the beach.
Sonny00:02:41What's the difference between a veranda and a deck?
JVL00:02:42I think a veranda is a porch. Is it not?
Vic00:02:47Yes. Yes. And it is bigger. I think a deck is bigger. A veranda. I always think of cruise ship.
Sonny00:02:53Is a veranda like a is it attached to the house like above? Yeah.
JVL00:02:58Is it like a. Yeah. It's a little thing. It's a little thing. A deck is bigger. Sorry. Yeah. So I would put my coffee in my my Yeti Rambler, which my beautiful wife got for me for exactly this purpose. And I went out and just sat on the beach and listened to some book. I listened to the entire Honorable Schoolboy, John le Carre's second movement in his Carla trilogy. I read the entire Gospel of Luke. And I even read no Gospel of Luke Gospel of John. I read the whole Gospel of John and I was there and read a book by Cicero. Wow. Look it. I am a fancy gentleman reading great Roman philosophers and you've you've come back enlightened. I do feel basically like I'm better than everybody else now.
Sonny00:03:52That's fair.
Vic00:03:53And now and for some reason you have a lot of blisters on your hand.
Sonny00:03:56Can I can I can I just I just have this.
JVL00:03:59I have this hair on my palm.
Sonny00:04:00I have. I'm going blind. I have.
Vic00:04:03I have said this before on the show for a week, man. That's crazy.
Sonny00:04:07I have said this before on the show, I believe. But I think The Honorable Schoolboy is my favorite of the Carla trilogy. I think it's actually I think it is actually the best of them. And I think that there is a there is a really, really good sequel to Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy, the Gary Oldman movie to be made out of that book that like. Fans poses some of the characters around you give you give you give Tom Hardy the like broken hearted lover role in The Honorable Schoolboy. And it like makes that whole it would make the whole thing work did even better.
Vic00:04:43Did we do? Did we do that by any chance? I think a show. I think Taylor, the Gary Oldman, I don't think I don't think we did. I don't because I guess I watched that on my own. And I have to tell you, that did not do well in the quadrants, did not under I absolutely
Sonny00:04:57one hundred percent. I did not understand that.
Vic00:05:00Wow. Sonny budgeted it. I gave it an F minus. I was an F minus.
Sonny00:05:04I mean, I was I was watching it at home. So, you know, I wasn't necessarily watching it in the proper, you know, like pure focus on the screen, whatever. But I watched I remember watching it and thinking, what the what the fuck am I? What is happening? I thought I read the book and I and then I watched it again. I was like, oh, OK, that makes perfect sense. This makes perfect sense.
Vic00:05:26I thought perhaps I needed to have watched. I watched some prequel or the Alec Guinness version in order to get what's going on.
Sonny00:05:34Who read the locker a.
JVL00:05:35Well, I'm sorry, I have read the locker, right?
Sonny00:05:39No, no, no, no, no, no.
JVL00:05:41The audiobook, I mean, oh, the reader, I can't afford that. It's somebody very good. You know, sorry, I have to say the book is a lot like that, too. I mean, so the book just throws you into the deep end and you have to. You have to work. Catch up. You have to work. Right. And you it's it's such a fully lived in world. And he he's I am I am not the biggest Lurker a stand in the world, but as a world builder and an observer of people, in addition to all the tradecraft stuff, man, is he good. And some of them, I mean, just the characters, I love Connie Sachs like crazy. I love Ricky Tar. I love Fawn. Fawn, who is this like psychotic, gay, brown nosing, tiny little guy who is the biggest badass in England. So so Fawn is John is John Smiley's babysitter. And so he's this little leprechaun of a guy who kind of reminds me of Brad Pitt's character from Snatch the Pikey. Right. And all he does is follow, follow Smiley around. He worships him, you know, and he's a huge kiss ass and he's really obnoxious. And he's he's kind of fey. And he's also the biggest badass on the planet. And so there's these bursts of spectacular violence where Fawn will suddenly, you know, break some, you know, two arms of somebody or, you know, kill a guy three times his size in five seconds because he just like rawr.
Vic00:07:27It's like, so good.
JVL00:07:28So good. That's good. Yeah. You know, Victorino, if you haven't done it, the BBC Alec Guinness Tinker Tailor is so good. I honestly think that Alec Guinness's portrayal of John Smiley might be the best screen adaptation of a character ever. Okay. I'm Ron Burgundy. Like he's so perfect. Good.
Vic00:07:58I'll add that to my list.
JVL00:08:02So anyway, I was at the beach and it was amazing. You know what I like? I like-
Vic00:08:08Thank you, Shannon. Thank you, Shannon. I love the sound of the beach. I love the sound of the waves. Yeah.
Sonny00:08:15I slept with our deck door in the bedroom because the master bedroom has a door out
JVL00:08:21onto the deck. Just listening to the waves all night while I sleep is the best.
Vic00:08:24It's meditative. It's meditative. Yeah. Good for you. Good for you.
JVL00:08:29I'm very jealous. The best.
Vic00:08:31That's very nice. Yeah. How are you, Victorino? I'm doing fine. We'll get to me in a little bit. But Sonny, what's going on with you? How's that GEICO insurance?
Sonny00:08:38It's great. It's great. I got my money back, thankfully. Yay. There you go. So all's well that ends well. It's just a funny story to tell the children.
JVL00:08:47I hope you really profile people coming to sell things to your house. Anyone who shows up-
Sonny00:08:54Anyone selling highlights. Anyone who shows up wants to buy- Yeah. Wants me to buy highlights for a children's hospital, you're out.
JVL00:09:00Good. Boy's life, get out of here. You creeps. No, it's fine. Okay.
Sonny00:09:07God, nothing has happened to me this week. Nothing of interest. I am just at home all the time and that's about it. You're not out and about? No. Beth got her second shot today, so in two weeks we will be able to go. Live our lives again. Oh, right. Yeah. And we are currently strategizing like what restaurant do we want to go to first? We want to go to the little Italian place or do we want to go to the big steak house? This is my life now. This is the only thing I have to look forward to.
JVL00:09:42I got to say, once Sonny, once you guys both feel Bill Gates as nanobots in your blood rearranging your DNA, it's just amazing. I'm already there. It's so good.
Sonny00:09:57I'm talking to you now from a Microsoft tablet surface thing where I got rid of my MacBook Pro that I love and I was like, "Give me this Microsoft crap."
Vic00:10:06No, I remember how weird it felt when I first went back to dining inside a restaurant last March. Last March. Yeah. It was, "Wow, this is crazy. How come I'm the only one without a mask?" It was really weird.
Sonny00:10:18I had a mask thing happen to me today. What? Again, I'm fully vaccinated, right? Yeah. How is anyone to know that? Because it's not like I have the card taped to my forehead. I just tell people even though I just lie, just lie. But I-
Vic00:10:34You haven't gotten vaccinated, Victorino? I do not want that vaccine, but I'm probably going to have to get it because they won't be able to go anywhere without it.
Sonny00:10:41You got to get the vaccine, man. It's not like you're- My body's funny.
Vic00:10:45I have been out and about with people indoors without masks for 13 months and I have been completely healthy.
Sonny00:10:50Victorino? I think JVL is scrubbing his hands right now as you're talking.
JVL00:10:55Victorino, it takes a team of scientists working round the clock just to keep you alive as it is. No. In fact- The work they've had to do on the gravy blood that you have and with your blood pressure and-
Vic00:11:11Yeah. Actually, no. Blood pressure. Your gout. It was 105 over 65. You can't take chances. 105 over 65, I got great blood pressure. But no, the truth, it's more complicated than that. Now. Now you've got great- That's right.
JVL00:11:24With your- Three times a week.
Vic00:11:26Your flesh-eating bacteria in your arm. This is- No. Well, as you know, all that changed. That was in 2015 and then the strep infection in my arm. But beginning in 2017, I got on a monoclonal antibody, dupilumab, dupixin. It was the biggest breakthrough in dermatology because it just ended eczema. So I get this injection every other week. And it blocks interleukin-4 and it's a biologic drug. And basically what it does is it tamps down inflammation and prevents cytokine storms. But what's the catch? The catch is you have to be on it for like three years. I've been on it for three and a half. So the NIH did a study of like 775 people on my medication for three and a half years. Only six people got it. Only six people got COVID. And those six were completely mild.
Sonny00:12:28So I... So basically what you're saying is that you are immune. You are naturally... Yeah. You have the Wolverine blood.
Vic00:12:34I have it. But it's not... But it's not... I do. But it's not news because you can't get it now. It's like if you got it now, you'd have to get it, an injection every other week for three years. But for those of us, and Matt Sonny did a similar study who were on it, we were in good
Sonny00:12:53shape. I didn't even know... First off, I didn't know you were getting an injection of miracle drugs every two weeks. Kate gives me the injection every two weeks. When you go to get your... Every two weeks. When you go to get the blood of the 20-year-old cycling through you like Peter Thiel. Not pegging. You mean she... A little something for the effort there.
JVL00:13:08It is... Oh, by the way... And she learned... When you say Kate gives you the injection every two weeks, you mean with a syringe?
Vic00:13:15I... Yes. I also give an injection. But the injection that she gives, I have to remember not to get in a fight with her before the injection. That's happened where I've been like kind of pissing.
Sonny00:13:28She really jams it in there.
Vic00:13:29Also, if she... If it's too early in the morning, also if she's hungover, also if... I mean, so there's all various things, but over the last three and a half years, she's gotten really good at it. And basically... Have you ever...
JVL00:13:43You ought to send her to the beach for a week by herself.
Sonny00:13:47Have you ever thought about doing a Sammy Jenkins thing where you ask her to just keep giving you the shot over and over again and see what happens?
Vic00:13:53So she remembers. I've given the shot to myself once. I'm terrible at this. You know like how diabetics, you could give yourself the shot. Do you just jam it in your leg? What are you waiting for? I did.
Sonny00:14:03My aim was so awful that it was like... You don't have to get it into a vein, I assume. What was that? You just like... You don't have to get it into like a vein or anything.
Vic00:14:09No, no, no. Just you could stick it in your gut, six inches to the left or right of your navel. But my aim was so bad, I bent the needle when I did that. Because I'm clearly that bad. You are the son of a doctor. I know. I know. It's shameful. It's shameful. It's the Wolverine blood. It's turning him into a superhuman. Yeah.
Sonny00:14:33But I know. I mean, really everything. Vic is going to... JBL, how are you reacting to the fact that JBL is going to, or Vic is going to outlive both of us?
Vic00:14:39It's astonishing.
Sonny00:14:40With his Wolverine blood.
Vic00:14:42It's the big... I talked to my doctor about it. He says it's the biggest thing that's ever happened in dermatology. But anyway, I probably could still have it for traveling purposes. I'd still have to get a vaccine because a lot of countries, places do not... You need that passport thing, probably. That passport thing.
JVL00:15:04Yeah. So have you gone out to any restaurants recently, Victorino?
Vic00:15:09Yeah. I was out to lunch twice. This is an interesting thing because it's a sign that the pandemic is ending, that in fact I'm beginning to gain weight and go out. More people are coming to me for lunch. And so I think last week, for example, I had two lunches with friends. And then this week, also a dinner and a lunch. I got a lunch tomorrow, but I had dinner. Oh, and I had lunch on Monday. And then I had dinner last night, actually, with our good friend, listener Dan and Mary Cameron Ham. Dan! And it was lovely. We went to Bourbon Steak. We had a great time. Sonny, you said you had some questions.
Sonny00:15:50Well, it was very fun. It was very funny because Mary Catherine sent a text of the elderly Asian tourist who she was having. Yes, I looked jowly.
Vic00:16:00She was eating next to. Profile is not. I said, take the picture. It's funny.
Sonny00:16:06Just that's funny. I was like, why? That man needs trifocals.
Vic00:16:09Yeah. And keep in mind, I'm wearing our former sponsor, Warby Parker's. But I can't read. I can't read those things. MKH.
JVL00:16:16What are you doing in Macau?
Vic00:16:17What was that?
JVL00:16:18Mary Catherine, what are you doing in Macau?
Vic00:16:21But I'm reading on my little iPhone SE and so I can, you know, because they scan it, you know. Question. Question. And I was looking. You know what I got? I got a runs a cop, a twenty three year old rum for just an after dinner drink. Question.
Sonny00:16:39Yes. At Bourbon Steakhouse, do they do you have to pull up the menu on your phone or do they have actual menus there like a civilized restaurant?
Vic00:16:49A lot of places have menus. Like you can you could have in your hand, not Bourbon Steak. Yeah. Yeah.
JVL00:16:58Because the fomites are what has killed 600000 people.
Vic00:17:00That's interesting.
JVL00:17:01This drives me crazy.
Vic00:17:02Also, but they also use they had an iPad for like wine list and stuff and then took care of that.
JVL00:17:08But it was great. All right. Seafood Tower. Mm hmm. Yes. Wait.
Vic00:17:14Did you do the way goo? Yeah, we did. A little bit. A little bit. A little bit. Tell me about it.
?00:17:20Come on.
Vic00:17:21Oh, and I forget. That's a bad word to use. It was really just a it was like putting a melted pad of butter in your in your mouth. And here's the funny thing. I don't like the texture. No, this is funny. That's the thing. This is funny because I've had wagyu on like on a handful of occasions, maybe two or three times in my life.
JVL00:17:40Right. Can you explain to anybody who is listening to this who which would include me had I not gone to Bourbon Steak with you one Japanese cow.
Vic00:17:47OK. But it's different from Kobe. Right.
Sonny00:17:50Kobe is from Kobe. It's like a super pampered cow. It's like this cow. You can tell. I said this cow lives like a king, like a samurai king.
Vic00:17:57You know, they they they they feed it beer and they massage it and everything else. But it has a very rich diet and you get like two ounces of it. Well, I think you have to order a minimum of what you get, what you can afford. But so the interesting thing is, I mean, the end result is the marbling is so is a lot. But it's it's very evenly distributed. That versus like most steaks, you'll have the edge, which has a big lot of fat and then it gets leaner in the middle. This is like speckled throughout. So they brought it out medium rare. And I have to say, it was so remarkable. And so in terms and I made sure you know what I made sure I made sure I said, I'm not going to have a lot to drink because I want to remember the meal. And I did at that point and and no, but it was really it was. It gets a little fuzzy after the bottle of rum, it was it was a glass but it was but it was incredibly delicious and memorable.
JVL00:19:01It was really something else. Did you get the I'm sorry, Victoria, how do you pronounce it again? Well, like you like we will like you like you we will believe me, I'll get the sample
Vic00:19:12of getting to some Japanese later on in the show. I got a treat for you. Okay, go ahead.
JVL00:19:17So I get did you get the little sampler the thing?
Vic00:19:20They brought out the fries, they had the truffle fries.
JVL00:19:22And then no, the Wagyu sampler because they Oh, yeah, no, it was like a little plate.
Vic00:19:27He he ordered a little plate for the little plate and, and then I had my own steak, just a small 12 very modest 12 ounce New York strip. And then and then some sides and then we had I had a martini and then we had plus the Alaskan
JVL00:19:42crab claw. Yeah.
Vic00:19:44To start whatever was in the tower was in the tower of seafood, the literal tower. A king crab claw and this is you know, the generosity of our our listeners and friends is really something is it's a testament, really, it's a testament.
JVL00:20:00So we Christopher Nolan Sonny was there shooting B roll for for Dark Knight Rises.
Vic00:20:08And so yes, my fellow that was Jonathan Jonathan is the the fellow Hoya so had a martini had a terrific Zinfandel. The Zinfandel was called problem child from Paso Robles. I'd never had it before. It was amazing. I mean, even like, you know, we're like, I, in my stupor, I woke up, I said, Hey, this is delicious. What is this? No, I actually do remember asking what it is. And the and the waiter said, Oh, this is called problem child and Mary Catherine says under breath. Yeah, you know all about that, she said to me. And then after that, I switched over and had an after dinner drink. And and that was it. And that was my my lovely evening. The evening with our, our friends. So thank you again to listener day and Miss Dan.
JVL00:20:54Yeah, Stan.
Vic00:20:56His adventure is YouTube here. His adventures are amazing. And and I have to tell you, I didn't sleep all that well, though, because I think my my body was not used to sort of a late night of eating like I got to get used to it again. So I would say that kind of work yourself back. Yeah, so I used to not be and now I have to work myself back into shape because all he did was toss and turn and then I felt a little bit of a little a little twinge a little Oh, no, middle of the sunny.
JVL00:21:23Do it.
Sonny00:21:24Do it. Oh, God. I can't even remember the Gatwatch. Dude, dude, dude, dude. There we go. You forgot that. I forgot.
Vic00:21:31It's been so long. It's been so long since we had a Gatwatch update. But it came and went. It came and went. And I've been okay since I drink a lot of water.
JVL00:21:38Did you do anything to stop it?
Vic00:21:40No, no. I mean, I just felt it. I felt a little bit and then it just disappeared on its own. And but it's unclear to me if it's it's because of the the red meat in this and the shellfish and the alcohol or, you know, after Ladies Book Club, Kate came back and brought some of Emily McClain's homemade granola. And I've been eating that. I've been eating the granola and, you know, oatmeal. That's another gout thing.
Sonny00:22:06It's probably the oatmeal. It is. It's I would I would put money on it being the oatmeal.
Vic00:22:11Gout is such a great mystery. It's one of these things that we may never know the it may never know what causes it. It's a. A great unsolved mystery, much like this movie we just watched over I was going to say over the weekend, but we don't do over the weekend anymore. Sorry. This week we are doing the movie The Kid Detective, Sonny. How about a big boy review?
Sonny00:22:31Yeah. So The Kid Detective came out in October of last year, came out in October of 2020. And like over the last month or two, I've seen people kind of mentioning it and talking about it and saying, oh, this is a good movie. I really liked it. You know, we should people should see it. And and so I was like, well, why don't we do that for a show? We did. So basically, the elevator pitch is Encyclopedia Brown, but older. What would it what would it look like if Encyclopedia Brown, a, you know, a acclaimed child detective got a little bit older and was still trying to do the detective thing and was terrible at it and was not was not good at what he did there. There are also kind of undertones of like Brick here, the Rian Johnson movie and some other stuff. But it's not it's not mannered and weird like that. It is just it's just it is a it is a noir wrapped in a kind of what if what if Encyclopedia Brown got old and and still did the the thing it stars Adam Brody as a 32 year old who is now trying to figure out what to do with his life. His parents are like, I'm not bailing you out anymore. His he lives with a terrible roommate. He has a snarky, mean assistant who is always undermining him and undercutting him and he lives with an enormous regret. He has a huge regret. When he was younger, his his original assistant, who he paid with grape soda pop, went missing and the town expected him to find her. And he never did. And it has been weighing on him this entire time. When another child in the town is murdered, he is tasked by the girlfriend to figure out what happened to this young man. And that's all I really want to say about the plot. We'll talk about it a little bit more in a bit and we'll get to spoilers then. But man, I I love this movie. I dug it. I really like the kind of weird tonal shifts that it takes between kind of a a dark comedy slash straight up noir slash almost Wes Anderson esque. Look at what happens when you grow up, but you don't really grow up, which is is like kind of a weird combination. It it reminded me a little bit of the Wolf of Snow Hollow, which I don't think we did on this show that that came out last year. But again, another movie with a weird tonal mix of, you know, that that is kind of more horror slash noir. This is more comedy slash noir. But Adam Brody is great in it. Adam Brody is really, really good in this, which surprised me because I was not I am not a huge fan of the OC or really anything. Really anything else he is. He has done.
Vic00:25:18What happened to the other guy from the OC?
Sonny00:25:20He's been he's been on a bunch of he's been on a bunch of stuff like he was he was he there was a he played Jim Gordon. He played Jim Gordon for like for like five years on that Gotham show. Like that show was on for a show was on for like half a decade, apparently. Yeah, but Adam Brody is really, really good in it. All of the little details of how they build this guy's life up. And how he is, how the things that he investigated in his childhood still like haunt the town. Like just one small example. What was the name of the gang? It's like the Red Apple Gang or something like that, the Red Shoe Gang, Red Shoe Gang, something like that. But like it's basically like a gang of school toughs. And it turns out they they become like the the actual drug pushers in town. Right. And like it's little weird things like that that just and like, again, Adam Brody's performance in this is so good, like just so many kind of under the breath of sides. That made me laugh out loud. I mean, the there is a C word dropped in this that like actually made me guffaw in my living room. I missed that. I think I missed that, too. Oh, yeah. It's it's the the the the the bitchy goth assistant. He's talking to he's talking to the woman. Oh, yes. I heard him. Yes. And and she says that. Yeah, that she says that the assistant showed him the newspaper where he after he has spoiler, I guess we'll talk spoilers now after he has been arrested for peeping as a peeping Tom because he's caught in. He's not actually peeping Tom, folks, don't worry, but he's he's arrested for being a peeping Tom. And so he's in the newspaper again. And the assistant's like, you're finally in the newspaper again, like real bitchy. And then and then the woman who has hired him says that she showed it to him and just under his breath. He's like and just like it just like I. Like, again, I just as as long time listeners of the show, no, I'm I believe I'm writing that down because I'm going to beep it. But but as as long time listeners know, I think that the United States is way too hung up on that word and we need to we need to be a little it can be used for great humor as it is in this this movie. So I'm I am big thumbs up on this. I I thought it was I thought it was entertaining and clever and like. Good enough to not be. It's not it is not as complicated as Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy, certainly again. It reminded me a bit of brick in the way it the mystery unfolds and the way it resolves. But yeah, loved it. Thank you.
Vic00:28:02Big thumbs up. JVL, what did you think?
JVL00:28:07Will you first Victorino? How did you do on the quadrants?
Vic00:28:12Not bad. I think it gets a score. A B. The plot to be plus I do have really I do have some questions.
Sonny00:28:19I'm a little interested. I'm kind of surprised that you are. I am, too. Well, okay. Well, B plus.
Vic00:28:24But there's a little was Kate explaining to you as you went to be plus there's a little asterisk. And it's because the woman who gives me my injection, she was sitting next to me and your nurse actually my nurse, my she that's what it's going to become now. You know, I'm already there where I have the nurse, the livid nurse, and it's my wife. And anyway, she was able to explain to myself. There was a lot of me going, oh, oh, and what did he say that sometimes is also what did he say? Okay. Okay. Who's that? I was like, Okay, well, we ever know who makes the origami I asked, you know, okay. So it's a great mystery. Duration is an A plus. Oh, goodness. That's solid. Move. Solid. 100 minutes. Yeah, violence action. See, you know, I mean, there's some fighting going on. Sex nudity. I'll give it a B because they had the photo that has more that has more nudity.
Sonny00:29:14More nudity than literally the last like 10 movies we've seen.
Vic00:29:18That's exactly right.
Sonny00:29:19And you're like a B. This is this has more nudity than any movie that we've talked about since so showgirls.
Vic00:29:25We need to see. Yeah, we need to see more more of these movies. It's really something else. Okay, so so it did it did it did fine on the on the quadrants. Film noir definitely it's the music that made it film noir it's very the me I liked I love the music for it. That too.
Sonny00:29:43Yeah. And it's very classy. I mean, it's like it is structured. Right. It is structured very explicitly like a film.
Vic00:29:49It's kind of it's vertigo ish also, you know, and and so I mean, it's following a lot of following around. Again, like Sonny, I take back what I said about Adam Brody. We were watching that remember we did the blockbuster documentary last block. And we made I made a joke. I said clearly, he's not doing much these days because I remember I was like, well,
Sonny00:30:10there's this movie The Kid Detective that everyone's talking about.
Vic00:30:13And that was a call, you know, a little a little teaser there. Yeah. And so I take it all back because I thought he was fantastic in it and very funny. And you know what else I had recently rewatched. Thank you for smoking. And he's great in that, too, as the Hollywood, the Rob Lewis assistant. Yeah. It's like he clearly knows these people because he played it to a T, you know. So there was that. And I thought the same thing. Encyclopedia Brown. Actually, my wife said that. So. And then I took it from her.
Sonny00:30:45So also, did you know Lord knows you didn't read in. No, of course not. As a child.
Vic00:30:50I'm picturing Caillou. But that's a different thing. It's that you are.
Sonny00:30:53I mean, in San Diego, this this encyclopedia brand had nothing to do with Nazis. No. That's right. That's right. That's right. So if it had been like lost, if it had been air brown child detective, it's like, yeah,
Vic00:31:09brawn. Yes. Okay. And also, you know, what also kind of reminded me who from Roger Rabbit, Bob Hoskins. Remember him? The down and out detective who was once great and everybody loved him. I love Jonathan's love, but you know, and he was another another noir and then down on his luck because of the booze. There are there are weirdly but there are, you know, in the middle, it's dark. It's very dark. But again, there are very funny parts. And I'd have to say the funniest thing about this movie is the hiding in the closet. It just had me in stitches because they they drew it out. Isn't a short thing. It's a long segment that felt like you were there.
Sonny00:31:47The bit that made another another part that, again, just made me guffaw out loud was when when the little girl comes back to her room and starts playing pong just like her brother. I was like, I was like, all right, that's that's that's a good bit. Yeah. And Adam Brody and Adam Brody's in the closet is like, oh, come on, because it's just like it's just it's perfect.
Vic00:32:05Two other thoughts it made. This this sounds funny, but watching it, I had the the sudden urge to pee. And the reason is when I was a kid, you know, like you play hide and go seek. You would hide somewhere. And as soon as I found the hiding spot, immediately I'd have this urge that I'd have to use the bathroom because it gets so nervous. And you know, and you and I'm just relating like what it is. He has to stand there. He can't even bend. He has to stay there in the closet. And it's just awful. And the other thing is, unlike most movies where they tease you about getting caught and in the end he sneaks out some way, he finds a way out now that it did not work. It did not work out for him there at the end. So that was great. Anyway, I'm trying to think, you know, I'll look at my notes if I had anything else. But that is I mean, I had a few questions and and some spoiler alert stuff. I don't know if we want to do in the spoiler alert. Yeah. Come on. Give me your question.
JVL00:32:57I know I just in the Victorino question.
Vic00:32:58I just want to say I am relieved that the killer or kid killer slash kidnapper turned out not to be Adam Brody himself. Like they pulled a Silver Lake. Ending where, oh, it's him all along. You know, it's like, thank goodness it's not. That's not what happened in the Silver Lake. It's not. He was killing the dogs. He was killing the dogs. Well, he was not the girl. The movie was about the dog. Wasn't that movie about who's who's the dog killer? That's the movie.
Sonny00:33:30OK, sure.
Vic00:33:31OK.
Sonny00:33:32All right. And then you're right. This is nothing like under the silver. See, that's 100. You nailed it there.
Vic00:33:37And did you ever did you. Oh. That's a Chinatown ending there. Like who's mother's daughter's father is you. What? OK, so very weird. Not quite incest, but all right. Question. I only I think I have three. I have three questions. What's the deal with him crying and the parents acting all weird at the end? Obviously he's having a breakdown. What's with the weird parents?
JVL00:34:08His parents are bad parents. Weird.
Sonny00:34:11Throughout his parents, his parents are not good parents, and he is like he is not OK because he's like he has he has spent his whole life, you know, like living with the
Vic00:34:19guilt of the town.
Sonny00:34:21And now it's crime of the soul. Now it's been solved, but he still does not feel better because his problems are internal. This is this is how it is like under the Silver Lake. Under the Silver Lake is a movie about how all of Andrew Garfield's problems come from within. And he tries to solve this great massive conspiracy, and he thinks that that's going to make his life better. And the secrets of the world. But in fact, all of his problems are inside because he's a crazy person. And like, I don't think Adam Brody's character, this is crazy, but he is he has internal problems that he needs to solve.
Vic00:34:51Are you sure Andrew Garfield was in that movie? Anyway, question speaking of speaking, speaking of being, was there some significance to him saying that his pee smells like fish? Is there some sort of thing going on here?
Sonny00:35:05I thought it was just funny.
Vic00:35:06OK. All right. Just checking, just checking, because, you know, I thought it was no big deal with the soda. But then it popped out in the end. There's the grape soda. Hmm. OK. Well, and and the last one was my joke about do we ever fight? I thought that the principal was making the origami. No.
JVL00:35:23Yes. The principal is the one making the origami.
?00:35:27Yeah.
Vic00:35:28I thought that and then I thought, I mean, he's it's not her, it's not it's not she in the shed.
Sonny00:35:36She might be making it as well at this point, because that's all she does now, but I'm pretty sure he's bringing her the origami in the shed.
Vic00:35:42Oh.
JVL00:35:43Oh.
Sonny00:35:44Am I am I wrong? Did I have I misread that JVL?
JVL00:35:47I don't believe so. I believe that is correct.
Vic00:35:51I thought she was making them and then he's bringing them to her.
JVL00:35:54No, I don't. I don't think so.
Sonny00:35:56OK. No, because there was one in her locker. Remember? Yeah.
JVL00:36:00That's right. OK. JVL. Is Adam Brody like a Bizarro World's Topher Grace? It feels like. It feels like they have a lot of the same thing going on. But darker.
Vic00:36:13Yeah. Darker.
JVL00:36:15Topher Grace was great in in good company, but yeah, I so I I didn't like it as much as you did, Sonny. I didn't dislike it, and I really liked the third act because in the third act, it does bring all the different strands it's in playing with together in, I think, a very satisfying way. Uh, but my problem with it is that it felt really derivative and this of of a bunch of different things, which I will go through in in a moment. But it felt derivative and of of things, all of which were a lot better. So it takes I mean, his detective work is basically like the the detective work in the Big Lebowski, right, where it's just a series, a comedy of errors and stuff that, you know, when when the dude goes and tries to to find, you know, he's like, oh, I'm going to find out what note this guy took, you know, when he's out in the desert and he puts a piece of paper over and then traces it with with the pencil and all it is is a doodle of a dick. And so it's got that like lousy, you know, bad detective part to it. It has the high school noir stuff like Brick, you know, it has a lot of it. I thought a lot about Under the Silver Lake while we were watching this, you know, just in the the sense of you're in this lived in world where everything is just off by like 30 degrees. You know, it doesn't doesn't quite work. You have the the unfulfilled world. Unfulfilled promise of a child genius like Royal Tenenbaums and what it owes everything to is Veronica Mars. And I don't think either of you guys ever watched Veronica Mars. And I will tell you as sure as I'm sitting here that Evan Morgan, who wrote and directed this, knew exactly what he's doing because and his his homage and his tip of the cap here is having Caroline drive a Chrysler LeBaron. And the Veronica Mars, her car in the series was she drove around in a Chrysler LeBaron. So this is all of which is to say that I wasn't.
Sonny00:38:51But wasn't Veronica Mars like actually in high school? Wasn't she?
JVL00:38:54Yeah. She was solving crimes in high school and actually a lot of like weird sex stuff with people pregnant with kids they shouldn't have been having was happening as well.
Sonny00:39:07Well this also happens in brick. Remember? Like this is again like it. I feel like when you when you're making a movie like this with high schoolers, that is the go to solution and problem, which is like weird in and of itself.
JVL00:39:18But but all I'm saying is that all of these things are better than this. Like this is a B and all of these other things are in their various ways, a to a plus or you know, a minus to a plus pieces of of storytelling. Yeah. And so I ultimately was not super satisfied, you know, like it was fine. I didn't dislike it. As I said, I think the third act works nicely. But in the genre of high schoolish noir detective stuff. Or quirky, weird, dark comedy slash detective stuff. It just feels like second rate material. See here's I guess it helps that I never saw Brick.
Sonny00:40:05Yeah. Well, so let me. Brick is the movie that kept coming to mind while I was watching this. And I have to say, I like this more than Brick. Even if I will totally agree with you that it is not original like Brick or whatever.
Vic00:40:19Because Brick is. When did that come out? Who's in it?
Sonny00:40:22Brick stars Joseph Gordon Levitt. It's Ryan Johnson's first movie. He made it for like 300 grand or something. And it's good. It's like a very good, cheap, low budget movie, right? It's a perfectly fine noir and it's very clever. And my problem with Brick is that it relies on that cleverness to an aggravating degree. Like the whole high school kids talking in the lingo that they're using that they never really explain where, and using, oh God, there's a very specific phrase that they use that every time I hear it, it makes me roll my eyes because nobody would ever talk like that. And it's the sort of thing that when you read it on the page, I'm sure it looks great. When a character says it out loud, you're like, oh, it's knives in my eyes, right? Because one of the characters has a hangover, has a headache. He's like, I got knives in my eyes. And every time I hear that line, I'm like, the fuck is he talking about? What is knives in my, oh, he's got a headache, okay, fine. And that's what I don't like about Brick. It is overly clever, and this movie is not overly clever. It feels more real, more, it just works better.
JVL00:41:32Yeah, it's less contrived, I think, in that way. This is... I mean, this does have... There's something to say in that it is a tremendous indictment of adults. Yes. Every adult in this movie is a failure at their job. The police can't catch either, they didn't catch the kidnapper, and they aren't able to catch the murderer. His parents, Adam Brody's parents, are terrible parents. And the whole town has layered expectation. First of all, they have indulged this kid who, it is clear, was not a great detective. Yeah. He was not actually Encyclopedia Brown. He was a mildly clever kid. And the town indulged and fed this idea of precocity in ways which ultimately were wildly destructive to him.
Sonny00:42:29And I found that, again, interesting. This is why he cries at the end.
JVL00:42:32Right. Well, he's a tragic character. Yeah. And he was not that smart. He wasn't a great detective. And it's one of these things which, when parental expectations and the expectations of adults around you start rolling downhill at a young age, it becomes a snowball and it becomes impossible to stop. And all of a sudden, nobody realizes that you can't fucking get into medical school. And I'm sorry, but I couldn't get in. And what do you want me to do about that? Or I couldn't solve the case. Like what? And then you wind up as, you know, a broken shell of a person by the time you're 32 or something. So I'm just saying that... What are we talking about here?
Sonny00:43:17Eventually, he gets to take a week at the beach and he's happy again.
JVL00:43:21I'm just saying that I do actually appreciate that it has something... The movie has a larger thing to say about it, which I appreciated. That said, I did keep thinking to myself. I kind of would rather watch Under the Silver Lake again. Because it's working in the... Great movie. You know what, Victorino? You're going to watch it sober one of these days and you're going to love it.
Vic00:43:44The guy who is the songwriter guy, he wrote all the songs.
Sonny00:43:49The Devil.
Vic00:43:50The composer.
Sonny00:43:51What was happening there? What was happening there? So it was awesome.
JVL00:43:54That was the best scene in the movie. I don't know.
Sonny00:43:56Best scene in the movie.
Vic00:43:57I was so confused. Victorino, I know. Was he killing the dogs? Because you were drunk.
Sonny00:44:01I'm like, is that's the guy who's killing the dogs? I literally... I literally, the other... Like a month or two ago. I turned that scene on, on Amazon Prime. I like fast forwarded it to it. I was like, I want to watch the songwriter sing in Under the Silver Lake because it's that good.
JVL00:44:12Yeah. I'll tell you what, something else about this movie is that it is essentially a public works program for repertory actors in Ontario. In the...
Vic00:44:24Was it filmed? Was it filmed?
JVL00:44:26Was it filmed? Not only was it filmed, but like one of the first title cards on it is like an Ontario heritage production. Yes.
Sonny00:44:36That's right. That's right.
JVL00:44:38Filmed in Canada. That's right. That's right. That's right. And this was the Canadian government. A lot of tax credits. Shoveled money into this production. And clearly one of the strings on it was that every actor aside from Adam Brody has to be Canadian? Local. A handful. And you go and look at it. A handful of boots in this one. They are, everybody except for Adam Brody is a local Ontario actor. They have almost no credits to their name and I thought it was actually the girl who plays Caroline who has a very, she must be a Quebecois because she has a very Frenchy Santa name. But she was great. Sort of understated.
Vic00:45:13She looked very high school. Okay.
JVL00:45:15Yeah.
Sonny00:45:16Okay. I'm just going to move on from that.
Vic00:45:18I found this movie very instructional do's and don'ts about all sorts of things. I mean it was scarier than, you have no idea how scary it was for me to watch this movie.
Sonny00:45:30I love the goth assistant who was on Veep. Yeah. She was the daughter of Veep. Yeah. She was the daughter of Selena Meyer on Veep. It took me a while to figure it out. For like five or six years. Yeah. It did to me as well. I was like. Who is she? I know her from something. And she's very funny in this. Very good. Not a Quebecer I don't think.
JVL00:45:47No. Well, I don't know. You know what? You know what? I feel like it lost a little bit of, there was one plot thread that I was more interested in them spending some more time with and that was the ego boost drug that he buys. Yeah. And I kind of wanted more from that. I thought he was going to use it. Because the scene where he goes and bitch slaps the, you know, the 16-year-old druggy kids. Kids on big stoops. That was so great. Right. That was so great. Yeah. That Victorino, there's your violence. Oh, you know what?
Sonny00:46:19I have to upgrade it because I forgot. Oh, you know what? I have to upgrade it because I forgot. I'll tell you what else. Again, like under the Silver Lake.
Vic00:46:24Yes. I'll tell you what else I forgot about, of course, in terms of violence. The ending when the culprit decides to stab himself. In the heart. I was expecting it right for the jugular. Oh. It's steady. I was like, and he does it twice. It took me.
Sonny00:46:41I mean, it took me a second to realize what was happening there because at first I thought he was setting Adam Brody up. I thought he was going. He was like going to kill himself and like, you know, frame. You know what I thought?
Vic00:46:50Please don't grab the knife. Don't try to save his life at this point and pull the knife out. Your hands, your hand, your fingerprints are all over it. You know, but that was terrible.
JVL00:46:59But that moment is a wonderful tell. Right. So, because Adam Brody, this is again, I say, I thought it really stuck the landing of the third act. So his character comes to, he solves this mystery by realizing that he was never a great detective. Right. The clue, the clue, which has him figure this out is that he solved this other case wrong because he wasn't a good detective. The only reason the principal did this was because the principal was worried that this kid. Yeah. Was some sort of genius. Right. And as soon as he saw that he wasn't and that it was all a fraud. Yeah. Then he was like, oh great. I can go abduct this kid.
Vic00:47:40He, I believe his line to the, the principal's line was, I just wanted to see what I was dealing with here or something like that. You know what I mean? Yeah.
JVL00:47:48Yeah. But, but again, I just think that's a nice, a nice turn of storytelling, having the character solve a case by realizing his own failings. Yeah.
Vic00:47:56Yeah.
JVL00:47:57So I thought that was, you know, thanks. As I said, perfectly, perfectly fine. I just. I'd rather watch brick or under the silver lake or a random episode of Veronica Mars. Okay. That's all.
Vic00:48:09Do we have any other thoughts on kid detective?
Sonny00:48:12No, no, no. Okay. Good movie. People should, people should watch it.
Vic00:48:17I liked it. Fine. Movie. I liked it. Fine.
JVL00:48:22Movie.
?00:48:23I've got a spirit of the week. Ooh.
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Sonny00:48:29Japanese gin.
Vic00:48:30It is from the same people. The same people who, uh, who, who give us a, I'm going to get this wrong, but it's from Suntory who also does Japanese whiskey times.
JVL00:48:40Exactly.
Vic00:48:41And it gets even better. So, uh, a writer, this is some time ago now had interviewed me about something, something related to vodka. And then we ended up having a conversation about what else is he like these days and different things. I told him I was really into gin and he says, uh, Japanese gin is really good. I said, I had no idea. I mean, I guess I shouldn't be surprised. They do everything. And so I thought, no. And he says, you know, and the one he mentioned said, what can I get here? Because I'm not in like New York and you know, I live in Virginia. It's the ABC store. It's state controlled. You're going to have only a handful of selections of these things. And he's mentioned Roku. That's the one you could find. I said, I don't know. I don't know if I've seen it there. So I went to, uh, ABC and in fact they do have it. However, more importantly, um, this was given to us, given to me, uh, by Laura Orland over at Savona communications. Uh, they represent. Roku. So when I got their email saying Roku is this new gin, not this new gin, but it's a gin. It's great to celebrate cherry blossoms, the whole deal it's happening now because Roku is Japanese for six and they have six botanicals, including the Sakura cherry blossom. So it was this whole theme thing. And I said, Hey, I'd love to try some. And so they sent over a bottle. Uh, so thank you very much to Laura Orland for that. Um, it is, how do you pronounce it again? Congratulations.
Sonny00:50:0215,000 number one, lucky gin make me laugh, save some of that for mortal combat.
Vic00:50:09Okay. Thank you. Yes. Um, but if you like Japanese whiskey, I'm telling you, this is really great Japanese gin. It's clear, crisp, refreshing.
JVL00:50:16The whole drinking it straight up.
Vic00:50:17No, I'm having a, not after last night, I'm having a little gin and tonic. Um, it is, uh, it's great as you know, the Japanese, anything that they do is great. So, you know, electronics, alcohol battleships. Uh, okay. Uh, also, uh, again from the house of Suntory, uh, speaking of which this is for real to our listeners, uh, for a limited time. If you go to drizzly.com drizzly, of course, where you can order drizzly.com and you enter promo code Suntory time, all one word S U N T O R Y T I M E. You will get $5 off your first order of Roku gin. Give it a shot.
Sonny00:50:56I am tough. Specifically wrote.
Vic00:50:58Yes. I have, I have never been more proud of a promo code. Suntory time in our, in the history of our show, because it worked for any Suntory whiskey. Can I, if I get, I'm not sure, I'm not sure. But Suntory time is the promo code and, uh, uh, and I'm a real, I'm a real believer in this product.
Sonny00:51:16So, uh, do you like it more than the Plymouth?
Vic00:51:19That's a hard one. That's how it is.
Sonny00:51:21It's English and Japanese.
JVL00:51:22So listen, it's hard. My father-in-law loves gin and tonics. Yes. Should I pick up a bottle of this for him?
Vic00:51:29Yeah, it's great. I mean, I mean, honestly, if it's, you know, should I go to Drizzly or should I just go
JVL00:51:34to my ABC store?
Vic00:51:35What's that?
JVL00:51:36What's that code again? Suntory time.
Vic00:51:38Promo. No, this is a serious question. Should I just go to ABC store or should I like, where will it be cheaper? I have no idea.
Sonny00:51:44Cause I didn't get it on Drizzly. Can you even get Drizzly in Virginia? Does Virginia?
Vic00:51:48Oh, cause they have like these strict, uh, transferring law.
Sonny00:51:52I can get it here in Texas, the land of freedom, but you know, I don't know about, I don't
Vic00:51:56know about you guys. Well, there you go. Uh, do we have any other sort of corrections? Shout outs? Everything?
JVL00:52:02Shout out to my wife for letting me go away.
Vic00:52:04Oh, there you go. And of course, thank you Shannon and listener Dan. That is all the time we're giving to this episode, questions, uh, comments, compliments, tweet us at Sonny Bunch at Victorino Matus. Again, be sure to subscribe to us on Patreon. Just go to sub beacon.com. We are there.
Sonny00:52:19Tell your friends until next time. You have anything I was going to tell a mask story and then we got distracted. All right.
JVL00:52:35Well, I got something to you. Good. Tell me, tell us your mask story, Sonny.
Sonny00:52:38So, uh, I, I was at the, I was at the playground with the kids today and, uh, all of a sudden
JVL00:52:43I hope you're wiping down the play equipment after the children touched it because that's how COVID is transmitted from phobites outdoors.
Sonny00:52:51Uh, we were, we were outdoors, so I was not wearing a mask because I, because you can't, you can't catch it. And you're in Texas. And I'm in Texas. This was the land of freedom where I can get liquor delivered to me maskless while I'm swinging from Bob bottle. Anyway, uh, we're at the, we're at the playground with the kids, uh, youngest, uh, makes what I like to call the poop face. Uh, and I don't know you, I'm sure you guys are remember that as the, just like it kind of like wide eyed, like, Oh, Oh, yeah, I did that this morning. And I was, and I was like, Oh no, Charlie, do you have to go to the bathroom? And he goes, eh, and it was too late. He was, he was already, he was already mid, mid, uh, Beth. So I'm like, I pick him up and I run him into the, we're like right next to a rec center. I run him inside the rec center, go to the bathroom, you know, finish up. We finish up, we get everything taken care of. And as I'm coming out again with my child who I'm carrying like over my shoulder, like a sack of potatoes, you know, uh, the lady at the front desk is like, uh, just, just next time, make sure you wear a mask when you go into the bath. And I'm just like, lady, I like the, the, me first. I like, again, I, I, I like, I'm fully vaccinated. I don't, I don't care, but also like I'm in an empty building. There's literally one other person in this building and I'm going into the bathroom and I was just like, you know what? Give it a, give it a rest. All right. I didn't say any of this. I just said, yeah, okay, sure. Next time I'm running in here with my pooping child, I will make sure to, you know, put the goddamn mask on. But like, I'm just, I'm done with it. I'm like, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm done. I'm done with all that. Good for you. Anyway, JVL.
JVL00:54:25So, uh. Flash had himself a day last, uh, last Sunday. Uh, he, I, I am watching this streaming cause the games stream. So I am sitting at the beach watching this and, uh, the opposing team's parents are all standing around next to the camera. And so I am getting there. It's like hearing the visiting team's commentary. And so. So Flash goes three and two thirds innings, 10 strikeouts, no hits, no runs.
Sonny00:55:06Is he on a pitch count? Is that why he comes out at three and two thirds instead of going all four?
JVL00:55:10Yeah. Yeah. Uh, I mean, it like that. I'll just tell you, I mean, watching a lot of baseball that doesn't happen, right? You don't, you don't see kids going out and striking out 10 over the course of less than four innings. This is not a thing, which, which we see anywhere we go and travel. And yet the other team's parents are just like yapping at their kids. Yeah.
Sonny00:55:37All you gotta do is put a barrel on it. All you gotta get it. Cause can't, you gotta, nobody puts balls in play, right?
JVL00:55:44They don't, they don't foul balls off. They don't like, they just stand up there and fan because nobody can catch up to them. And one kid nearly put a ball in play and one kid hit a routine pop fly. Off of him, which, you know, the center fielder just like stood right where, you know, came right to him and he caught it. It was out. And this other team's parents started cheering. Like they just won game seven of the world series. I thought to myself, what, what's wrong with you people? Like just appreciate greatness.
Sonny00:56:16They're just, they're just, they're just cheering for their children.
JVL00:56:19No, no. There's a, there's a lot of like, he can't stop you. You know, you, there's a lot of.
Sonny00:56:26They're trying to, they're trying to give their children, you know, confidence. What are they supposed to say? Just don't die. Don't get hit by a pitch.
JVL00:56:33Oh, look, you say, you know, yeah, good, good, good hack. You know, you'll catch them. But, but I, I'm just saying when, when, when I see a kid on the ball field make a great play, I don't care whose team is. I'm just like, wow, that's awesome. At least no appreciation.
Sonny00:56:52You wanted them to start cheering for flash. You wanted them to start doing the slow clap. When you went off the field.
JVL00:56:58I'm just saying that, uh, you know, you, you can at least, you can at least appreciate and not go into this weird Kabuki theater of like, yeah, you got him.
Sonny00:57:12He can't hold you.
JVL00:57:13But I'm just like, he can't hold you. This kid's given up seven hits lifetime. What do you mean? They don't know that.
Vic00:57:18Like, yeah, I'm not even sure what that means, but you know, I'm just going to.
JVL00:57:22Any, anyone who's there watching understands like after about a, you know, five seconds, what's going on. That's all. I found it annoying. And I was very happy that I was not there at the game because I would have gotten like annoyed.
Sonny00:57:37Would you, would you have gotten rowdy? Would you have started counter cheering? Like every time he strikes a kid out, just being like, yeah, send him back.
JVL00:57:43No, because that's again, that's failure back to the, because that's bad.
Sonny00:57:49Right.
JVL00:57:49I mean, oh, oh, I'm sorry.
Sonny00:57:53Never mind. I don't understand. I, I, oh. Well, I'm, I am confused, frankly.
JVL00:57:59It is 12 year old baseball and you're supposed to be happy for all the kids. And, uh, nobody's happy for all the kids.
Sonny00:58:06They're happy for your, you're happy for your children.
JVL00:58:08No, I'm happy for all the kids. I love it. When, when the kids, I love it.
Sonny00:58:14When the kids, I refereed, I refereed a lot of youth soccer games growing up. Uh, and let me tell you, I had never met a fan. I never met a side that was happy for the other side to score a goal. All right. So never happened.
Vic00:58:24I would have liked to go refereeing.
JVL00:58:26Two weeks ago, when here's what I'm talking about. So two weeks ago, uh, flash is playing third base and a line drive is hit to his left. He dives. I sent you guys a copy of the play. Did I send you the video? Yeah. So he dives to his left, uh, comes up with it after spinning around and from the seated position on the ground, guns, the runner down at first base. And when this happened, everybody in that field lost their mind because it was so cool to see, like the other kids are like up on the fence, the dugout banging on the fence. Cause it was awesome. Both sets of parents were like thrilled to see it. The, the umpires. That's not what I heard. The umpire.
Sonny00:59:08That's not what I heard on the video.
JVL00:59:09Tipped his hat. That we watched. The umpire tipped his hat to flash because that's just.
Sonny00:59:16They threw a, they threw a parade down main street.
JVL00:59:18I'm just saying when kids do cool stuff.
Sonny00:59:20Max Scherzer came down.
JVL00:59:21It's that hit. The job is yours. I'm just saying.
Sonny00:59:24Brad Pitt. Brad Pitt was like, we, we're going to do this. We're not going to take you right now as this is not how money ball works, but we're going to, we're going to keep our eyes on you.
JVL00:59:34I'm just saying that it's, uh, people should appreciate greatness. I would think that you Sonny of all people.
Sonny00:59:42I, I mean, if I was watching, I would be cheering for flash because he's the son of my friend and I, and I would be booing the other children. No, I would be. This is what I'm saying. You don't boo any of the other kids. Get back to the bench, loser. I'm sure. That's fine. With my big league chew.
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