#9. 'The Mandalorian' Season 2
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The main topic is The Mandalorian Season 2, and it produces a real Sonny-vs-JVL brawl. Sonny's big-boy review is rapturous: it's "Gunsmoke meets Star Wars," a space-Western with a lovable Grogu (Baby Yoda's now-canon name), a killer bench of side players (Gina Carano, Katee Sackhoff, Rosario Dawson's Ahsoka, Giancarlo Esposito), and a blessedly old-fashioned weekly release that restores water-cooler viewing — plus a finale that kicks you in the feels with nostalgia without feeling cheap. JVL, who binged it after the fact, is the dissenter: he machine-guns logic questions (faster-than-light travel, why nobody uses jetpacks, standard-def screens in a galaxy with hyperdrive), argues the show is so plot-thin each episode reduces to one sentence, and declares Mando "more boring than Rey" — the whole thing running on nostalgia and fan service, with only the Bill Burr episode (7) and none of the CGI-Luke finale working; tellingly, only his four-year-old wanted to watch it with him. Vic sides with Sonny — he loves that it entertains for 45 minutes without demanding mental energy — and hands out top quadrant marks (sex/nudity a diplomatic N/A). The hangout covers Vic's control-freak vacation meal-planning and reservation-concierge philosophy, Sonny's hair regimen (American Crew pomade, going for the Jason Bateman helmet), the surprising cost of music-licensing rights (via Cracker's "Low" and "Teen Angst"), PBS canceling Caillou, and JVL's brand-new Honda Odyssey minivan — his fourth vehicle — armored against his kids with WeatherTech mats and neoprene seat covers, capped by Vic's story of snapping a ceiling-fan blade while flipping a mattress.
From the show notes
On this latest episode, the gang discusses planning meals for a dozen people on vacations. What does Sonny put in his hair? How is JVL protecting his brand new van? And which of the gang is wrong, wrong, WRONG about the second season of The Mandalorian ? All this and more on the latest episode of The Sub-Beacon!
Full transcript
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JVL00:00:42Hello, and welcome to another edition of The Sub-Beacon. I'm your host, JVL, along with Sonny Bunch and Victorino Matus. Just a reminder, The Sub-Beacon is available exclusively on Patreon at subbeacon.com. We also have a store where you can buy Sub-Beacon merch, ranging from masks to onesies to headache shirts, my favorite. Just visit tpublic.com and search Sub-Beacon. You'll easily find us. Buy some shirts, tell your friends to subscribe, and leave us reviews, suggestions, bad ideas, interesting gifts at subbeacon.com. Victorino, how are you?
Vic00:01:23I'm good. Tanned, rested, and ready.
JVL00:01:25Did you take your chance? Did you take your children to a bar for New Year's?
Vic00:01:28No, you know, this time I didn't, but I was very good about, as you know, if I wasn't doing this job, I'd be a concierge. And it's such an underappreciated job because a lot of people, I'm not going to name names, but like, you know, family members, whoever, whoever, people, large groups of people where they all go, hey, we'll all go together, let's all go vacation together, it'll be like, you know, 10, 12 people. And then it's like, oh, where are we going for lunch? All right, let's just figure out where. And then you walk somewhere. And it's like, okay, do you have a table for 12? You know, and it does not work. And we're going to have to delete this. I'm just.
JVL00:02:05I don't know. Where are you going?
Vic00:02:07My point is, I call ahead for everything, even if it's not a party of four. And it's like, you're welcome, everybody. So every day was planned out. I planned out breakfast and dinner. Because if you don't, you're going to be wandering the streets and end up at McDonald's or somewhere.
JVL00:02:24And God knows, you have a thing about wandering the streets. And then just sitting down in front of buildings at four o'clock in the afternoon and vomiting. I don't want to be homeless.
Vic00:02:33But that's after coming back from really good places and really good lunches. I'm talking about like, you know, you're with people. Where are we going to eat? And then it turns out to be like, eh, we'll just go here. And well, there goes your trip. For me, eating on the trip is a very big deal. You know, it's like. Yes, believe it or not. And I remember this because way back in my college years, we would get together and go different places. My college housemates. And I remember one time and I had this is before I did planning and such. We went to New Orleans, which is an amazing city. And like, where do you want to go? And like, I don't know. Let's just go to Taco Bell in New Orleans. And I'm like, I'm sorry, I can't do this. You know, there are po' boys here and Napoleon's bar and po' boys at Taco Bell are amazing.
Sonny00:03:18It's like the lobster roll.
Vic00:03:19You can do it, though, because all you take is the popcorn shrimp and you put it on a bun that is called a po' boy. So anyway.
Sonny00:03:26It was true, but yeah, that's right.
Vic00:03:29And I'm glad I made reservations when we were in Cape May, because, of course, you know, everything is, you know, limited capacity. So it's like, OK, there was your four tables or five. You got a little tent. It was a lot of fun. And I have to say, I also picked up a great T-shirt, which I'm wearing right now.
Sonny00:03:46What's it? I can't see it.
Vic00:03:48Just just the tip. You see the county? There it is. That's the county.
JVL00:03:56I mean, that's your children.
Vic00:03:57I have no I didn't I didn't I didn't wear it until just now. And I'm in the basement. So they're going to wear that around on the weekends because that's all I need is for them. Say, oh, just the tip. You know, that's great. You know, but I couldn't I was I couldn't resist it when I saw it in the store window. So I got to pick this up. Victorino, I have a question for you.
JVL00:04:17Is there a a power law for number of people in a party at which point? If the party has not decided ahead of time where to eat. Then with like, you know, is it once you go to five people, right? Three people is OK. You can make you can find a good restaurant with three people. But with five, you automatically know you're going to go to the lowest common denominator. Is there a breaking point with the number of people in your party where everything just has to be done ahead of time? Otherwise, you know, you're going to wind up at Taco Bell or something like that.
Vic00:04:51If it's more than four, I'm going to be making calls. OK, but especially in the current condition because of the situation that we're all in question, it's not like you can walk into it. Yes.
Sonny00:05:00Are you a restaurant dictator when you're making the decisions? Do you just say we're going here, we're going here and we're going here?
Vic00:05:08I wouldn't look at myself as a dictator because the subjects seem to be very happy where we go and there's very little push, very little dissent, very little dissent. And at least in this particular republic that I'm living in, that's right. And so, I mean, uh, I will, I will say this, I will, I, my obsession on any trip is where are we eating and anything else you want to do, I'm up. You're down. I'm happy to go anywhere. That's fine by me. So I think that's fair. Sightseeing and stuff.
Sonny00:05:44Well, especially, I think it's fair if you were doing all the work, setting up all the actual reservations because that's a pain.
Vic00:05:50Nobody wants to have to deal with that. It's a total pain in the ass.
JVL00:05:53Yes. Plus the people just now, he's not a dictator. Cause then people naturally follow him because of the head size. It's like the Easter Island stuff, right?
Vic00:06:00Yeah. You just come and they fall down to worship. You're drawn to it. And I look at, I look at menus ahead of time. I'm, I already know what I want to, I mean, here's a little pro tip for you. You go to a meeting, you're having some sort of a restaurant situation. You're meeting somebody professional, whatever. Look at that menu and have it in your mind ready so that you don't have to dilly dally. But of course it depends on who you're with. And if it's somebody that's paying, then obviously wait till that person orders and have a backup ready. Something modest, and then something more showy. That's what I think.
JVL00:06:28Here's a, here's a serious question. Uh, you, you and I are, are people who don't know each other. We talk in the before times, right? Talk over the phone. We agree. We're going to meet for lunch. How much time do you spend on simply restaurant prep before you show up to that lunch meeting?
Vic00:06:46Uh, define restaurant prep. Like you mean like, like it's a new place.
JVL00:06:50It's a new place. You've never been to before. Hey, we'll just meet at that new place around this room. How much time? Do you spend stalking their menu online, going through various combinations of, well, if he orders this, I'll order that 15, 20 minutes, 15, 20 minutes.
Vic00:07:04That's all that's simple. You know what I mean? But it, it depends. It depends on where we're going. There are some places where, as soon as I hit appetizer, I'm like, oh my gosh. You know, what do I, where do I begin? And I hope they get something good because I want to get this also. My strategy is usually look at the main course and work your way backwards. Cause that will define what you eat around it.
JVL00:07:23You know, you're like the restaurant version of Robert De Niro and Ronan. I never walk into a room. I don't know how to walk out. You got to get out.
Vic00:07:30Yeah, that's right. That's right. That's right.
JVL00:07:32That's great. Sonny Bunch. How are you? Oh, you know, we, well, we'll go back Victorino at some point. I'm going to ask you about wonder woman. Maybe we'll save that for the very end. Yes. Sonny. How are you? You look good. You look fine.
Sonny00:07:47Do I happy and do I look, do I look good? I can't even tell if this is sarcasm. Do I look angry? Do I, do I look like a haggard angry person?
JVL00:07:55Or do I, do I actually look like a Jason Bateman hair going? That's great. Yeah, I do know with the hair. That's what I wanted.
Sonny00:08:02It's funny. Well, I, I only, I only take like three showers a week now. Um, so the hair builds up more natural grease than it used to, you know, when combined with the, uh, when we combined with the pomade, the American crew, heavy hold, it really, it really creates a helmet. You got to use American crew. You know, I go, I go to, I go to this, I go to Floyd's. I go to Floyd's to get my haircut, which is a chain. And I go there because they put posters on the wall of bands that I liked when I was 15. Uh, that's literally the reason why I go there.
Vic00:08:35Uh, but the bands that might be, I mean, it's, it's, it's, I mean, it's like
Sonny00:08:40everything from like Led Zeppelin to, you know, three doors down or something. There's probably a three doors down poster at one of these vertical Lloyd's. No, I'm not vertical horizon was more like when I was 18, I think, you know,
Vic00:08:55uh, rocket toad, the wet sprocket toad, the wet sprocket.
Sonny00:08:58Definitely. There's there, there should be some toad, the wet sprocket. Uh, if not, you know, speaking of what we had cracker, the, the singer songwriter, uh, guitarist for cracker on, uh, the bulwark goes to Hollywood last week, which was very, which was very fun.
JVL00:09:12You'll, you'll remember their needs now, right?
Sonny00:09:16No, that's different. That's different. Um, that's cracker what the world needs now. Right. Is it new? I don't, I don't think so positive. That was their baby. Their big hit. No, they're big. Their big hit was low.
Vic00:09:29You're going to have to sing it for all effort. I need a comparable effort.
Sonny00:09:32This while you keep going, I guess song was low anyway. Uh, but no, I go into this, I go into this like barbershop and they have all of these, you know, store brand pomades and stuff and I'm like, no, I'm not, I'm not spending the same amount of money on this as I would for American crew. Come on. American crew is the most popular and therefore the best as we know.
Vic00:09:55So I have thoughts, but it's going to be after the show. I can't, what are your thoughts? What are your thoughts? I thought America, I used American crew as well, but I was also under the impression that it was for a certain type of clientele. That's all.
Sonny00:10:07You think it's like a kind of Guido we, uh, like douchey or, oh no, you're going. Oh, I see. Let's see. Look, man, you gotta have nice hair.
Vic00:10:19It's good. I just thought of that and not that it makes a difference, but I was just like, oh, okay. But I used it though. I used it too.
Sonny00:10:24Also wearing my American giant hoodie, uh, which, which, uh, JBL should appreciate they don't make these anymore. It's the lightweight. It's very, it's very exclusive.
JVL00:10:36So I'm right. This is crackers. Big, giant break.
Vic00:10:39You're going to get in trouble for playing this. Aren't you? Or no.
Sonny00:10:51I, I talk, I mean, I, I talked to the guy who does the finances for cracker and he says he gets more royalties off low than anything else.
JVL00:10:58I've never heard that song.
Sonny00:11:00Uh, hold on.
JVL00:11:00This is a gen X millennial divide. So clearly, uh, what the world needs now, the real title of which was teen angst was teen angst is a good song.
Sonny00:11:09That was their first, that was their first hit. It went to their modern, on the modern charts, but it was definitely not their biggest hit. It's not even close to their biggest, you know, which one I like.
Vic00:11:19I like, I want to wake up where you are.
Sonny00:11:22No teen angst teen angst is a great song. And I asked David. C Lowry. I was like, how much would it cost to actually, uh, get the rights to just the first, like 10 seconds? A great, that great intro guitar riff. Um, uh, and he was like, yeah, that'd be, you know, you, you have to pay us like a thousand dollars, but you'd probably have to pay a Virgin 5,000 because that's just how much it costs to do the paperwork. That's how much they have it. Well, just to like, have it as branding on the show. I remember we, we discussed this when we wanted to, we were talking about getting an Amy Mann song for the sub beacon. It was, it's just. Exceptionally expensive to do it legitimately.
Vic00:11:56And even right. You know, even in, uh, uh, I remember I was right. I w I was, I had some like song lyrics that I was quoting in my vodka book about like at some convention, they were playing the song and then we have to take it out. We have to take out the lyrics because that costs money to run, to reproduce the lyrics in a book.
Sonny00:12:13Yeah, totally. It, uh, I was, I was discussing this with somebody else. I forget who, but it was, it's like, if you're, if you're doing a, if you're making, if you're writing a book of criticism, it's, it's totally clear. It's totally kosher to quote lyrics or whatever, but if you're writing a novel, you have to get permission on all that stuff. You have to get permission on all that. You have like any, any length snippet, uh, permission for you have to like get actual permission, written sign, blah, blah, blah. Usually I think they're, I think usually people are pretty cool about it, but not always.
JVL00:12:46Okay. So, uh, do you have anything for us then?
Sonny00:12:49No, we just, I just talked for like seven minutes, 12 minute run.
Vic00:12:54I had, I had, I had, I had, okay, you go. And then I have something else as well. No, no, no. Victorino please. Uh, do you have thoughts on PBS canceling Caillou? Were you, were any of your kids watching that on PBS ever? I've never even heard of this. It's a cartoon about this hapless kid, uh, who looks like Charlie Brown, but is not Charlie Brown, definitely C-A-I-L-L-O-U and most people find him extremely annoying and he ran for, I think 13 seasons and then he just went on syndication. And PBS, and it's, it's bizarre because the kid is just really hapless. Uh, other parents say that he's a spoiled brat. And then, uh, and it's also interesting cause it's from Canada. So it was a Canadian cartoon that never heard of nothing, nothing at all. Consider yourself lucky. It's a weird sort of just it's, it's extremely, I don't know how to put it. It's just extremely gentle. Like everything about it is safe. It's just like, ah, yeah, I think it's on brand. It's on. Right. So it's friendly, you know, how are you come up and take a walk about the father wore the same outfit, the boot time, which was some raggedy green sweater and a loose, uh, white turtleneck. It's a cartoon, but it's like, it's like, ah, totally safe, safe.
JVL00:14:13So, uh, went out and bought a new minivan.
Vic00:14:17Woo.
JVL00:14:18Oh boy.
Vic00:14:19Did you have an old, did you trade in an old minivan for the new minivan?
JVL00:14:23I have. I have an old minivan, but I did not trade it in.
Vic00:14:28So you added, do you have, do you have not too personal question, two or three?
JVL00:14:35Uh, four, we have four vehicles now. Uh, and the, the, look, the old minivan is not gonna last for forever. It's got 143,000 miles on it and it's falling apart. However, uh, it's still drivable. And by, when I say if it's falling apart, I mean like all the interior stuff is like nasty and falling apart. The drive train is made of adamantium or something. Yeah. You know, the drive train on this thing is, is absolutely bulletproof. And the, but it's the resale value is, you know, I have four kids who have been throwing up in this car for 10 years now and it looks like it, but, uh, so the resale value on it was like a thousand bucks and I was like, I don't know, like a thousand bucks, why not just keep it and have a thing to haul stuff around with? And when I'm, you know, when the pandemic is over and I've got to take like five, 12 year old boys who smell, uh, from his, from my son's baseball team, not because I'm picking up 12 year old boys, but you know, with muddy cleats and stuff, uh, do it in the old beat up minivans that have the super duper, nice new minivan shaking his head.
Sonny00:15:47This is, uh, this is the logic that my, my father uses, uh, and has led to him now they now have something like six cars in their, in their driveway, uh, you know, uh, various, various stages of decrepitude Volvos and that sort of thing, which like, I, I understand the logic. I totally understand the logic. You're not going to get any money by reselling it. You're the taxes on it are very low, uh, even in Virginia where they have the car tax, um, and, and, you know, why not have, why not have extras just in case? Um, I do, I do think that there, there is a level. To which that gets, that, that gets, you get to creep, you get to car level of six. I feel that level is, might be four when you have two people who can drive.
JVL00:16:32Well, except for, you know, I have two people who can drive now, four years from now, I'm going to have three people who can drive and then somebody can get the beater can get the beater in the, that is happening. I can see that on the horizon.
Sonny00:16:44Are you going to, are all of the, uh, last children going to have their own car to drive around in? Uh, we'll see even going to want to drive. In four years, or will they all just have Uber on their phone, Uber?
JVL00:16:56That's what they'll do. No, when you're a kid, you don't need to Uber because your parents are Uber. Well, you can also, you know, you got the freedom. You want the freedom of being the driver. That's the whole thing. I don't think that's true.
Sonny00:17:07I don't think that's true anymore. I think the children nowadays are, are, uh, slaves. I bet there's an interesting, I want to be dominated by the tech Lords.
Vic00:17:16Well, in fact, I think there is a statistic about the number, how the number has increased of, of, of kids who are of age. Of age to drive, who do not drive.
Sonny00:17:25Who just don't have driver's licenses, like literally just do not have driver's licenses.
JVL00:17:29Well, this has always been true of city kids. It's not true of suburban kids.
Sonny00:17:32I think it's, I think it's getting more and more rising.
Vic00:17:37I do remember when, uh, we trade years and years ago, uh, we traded in Kate's old 92 Toyota Camry with a rusted trunk and a missing hub cap. And they signal that when you flip it, it doesn't blink, it just screeches at you and has no work and we got her at the time was 2007 Highlander. And I remember like, oh, we'll just trade it in, you know, just take this, basically take it off our hands. And the salesman was very serious, uh, uh, nice fella. And he just said, well, uh, cause he comes, he goes, let me just take a look at the car. Then he comes back. He goes, um, how much do you want for the car? And I know we probably had discussed, here's what we can do. We can game it out. And I think it's this number. This number, I could not resist the joke in front of Katie. But, and I just said to him, I don't know how much is in your wallet. So that was the end of that. Sorry, but it was a good joke. So here's why it was 20 bucks.
JVL00:18:38Having the experience of watching my children destroy the current minivan in which even the ceiling inside over each of the children's seats, you can see finger marks where they have. You know, gotten chocolate on their fingers and then decided, oh, I'll just wipe it on the ceiling. Because they're animals, right? Absolute animals. So I decided I don't want this to happen in my new, very nice minivan. And so I, uh, I went and I bought really awesome weather tech, like super duper rubberized floor mats, which basically will catch up to a gallon's worth of spilled liquids before they're able to go over. And I even went for the middle and rear row seats and I bought these custom made neoprene seat covers. Which, which is like snapping on a latex club, but it's named like the old people when they cover up the living room couch, but they're no, but they're not, they're made of neoprene, which is like wetsuit material.
Sonny00:19:46So it's just a, it's just a fancy, expensive version of the grandma's couch.
JVL00:19:50Basically. But what I felt like, and I felt like. I'm what I'm doing is I'm, I'm like coating my entire interior of this fancy new minivan in armor. Speaking of armor, the Mandalorian season two has just wrapped up.
Vic00:20:06Eshgar.
JVL00:20:08Come on Victorino.
Vic00:20:10That was great. That was great. No, you're not going to give me a grade on that. I will give you a grade. That's that's, that's, that's a, I'll give you an a, that's a good a, uh, question, uh, before we get to the transition, you never told us what the new van, can you tell us the, uh, make model
JVL00:20:25Honda odyssey.
Vic00:20:26Oh yeah. Those are very popular. Good. Yeah. You know what I did when I got, when I have like my car versus Kate's is I just banned the kids from eating in the car.
Sonny00:20:36Yeah. 100%.
Vic00:20:38I'm sorry. There's no food here. This is not one of those flights. How long does that last?
JVL00:20:43I mean, you, I believe me, we are banning eating in it, but you drive up to New
Vic00:20:49Jersey and we don't, we don't go. To, uh, you know, they don't, uh, uh, they, they could all hold it into, which is pretty impressive.
JVL00:20:58They don't eat on a trek to church. You know what?
Vic00:21:00There are time initially they did it and then, and then that might, then it failed. I've just, but, but in short trips, no food. Okay. The Mandalorian. Sorry, Sonny.
JVL00:21:13How about a big boy review?
Sonny00:21:15The Mandalorian season two, uh, it is the ongoing adventures of the Mandalorian. Uh, who was played by Pedro Pascal, possibly, uh, at the very least he's voicing the character through, through most of the show, he takes his helmet off a couple of times towards the end of the year, uh, but you know, it's, it's always hard to say if he's actually in it or if it's a stunt man or what, uh, the Mandalorian is essentially, we we've talked about this before, but the Mandalorian is essentially gun smoke meets star Wars. It's a, it's about a guy who goes from town to town, uh, writing wrongs, uh, in, in the manner of, of the a team and, uh, uh, continuing on his way. Uh, and it's great. It's fantastic. It's wonderful. It's it's everything. Star Wars should have been for the last, uh, since 1977, uh, including the empire strikes back and, uh, returning the Jedi. It is, it is a fantastic episodic series with lots of interesting characters and great acting by people like Gina Carano, uh, the most foremost female MMA, uh, actor who brings a real physical presence to the screen real half she gets, she gets, you know, she can put her, you, you believe it when she puts her fist through someone, um, and, and, uh, I, I love this show in, I love the show for two reasons. One, because it does have that kind of old timey Star Wars feel of being a Western and space, a kind of space Western fantasy mix, um, it's got a fantastically lovable character in the baby Yoda, which we now know is named
JVL00:22:52Groku after this season, uh, Grogu, Grogu, Grogu. That's what I said. Go goo, go, go like goo, goo, goo, goo, Gaga, baby, baby Yodo, go goo, goo, Gaga.
Sonny00:23:04Uh, and, uh, and, and it's got, it's got great side characters, uh, played by fantastic actors, Katie Sackoff from Battlestar Galactica is in this as another Mandalorian, a Mandaladian, if you will, uh, who, who believes she is the heir to the throne of Mandalore, um, and, and, uh, uh, of course, Rosario Dawson as Osaka, the Padawan, but not, not a Padawan anymore. She's a Jedi. Uh, and, and it's just, John Carlo Esposito, all sorts of guys. Uh, it's fantastic. I love it. Um, and the, the final episode, which we'll talk about in a bit, I'm sure, uh, really, really kicks you in the fields with the nostalgia. Uh, and it's not cheap or bad in any way, despite what some people in on this, this podcast might think, uh, and the other thing I love about it. So I, I love all of the, the actual, the show stuff about it. But the other thing I love about it is just the structure with which Disney rolls it out. Now JBL didn't experience this because he watched it all after the fact, because we were like, we want to do a show on the Mandalorian, but the fact that it comes out once a week and it's just 30 minutes to 40 minutes, uh, when you're going adventure to adventure. It's really pretty lovely. It's nice to not have to binge a thing. It's nice to watch it in real time with other fans. You could talk about it afterwards. You can have water cooler conversations. It's not, Oh, where are you in the Mandalorian? Are you at four episodes in a year, eight episodes in how far have you gone? No, it's, it's, it's like, it's like watching an old show. And this again, brings me back to the gun smoke, a team model where it feels like a throwback in that sense as well. It's not, it is not a modern streaming show. We're all kind of annoying. It is, it is something a little bit better, a little bit older. And I, uh, I loved it. I'm glad. I'm glad it's back. I'm glad I came back for second season. I'm glad it's gonna come back for more. Um, yeah, that's, that's my, that's my big boy review of the Mandalorian eight. Good. Thank good.
Vic00:25:09Thank you, Sonny. That was, that was really good. How do you do that without any notes? It's amazing.
Sonny00:25:13Well, I ramble that's I don't, I don't, I don't have coherent thoughts. I just go. It's easier when I've written a review beforehand. Because then I just have it all mentally this, this, I'm just kind of winging it.
Vic00:25:24I agreed on all points and it is nicely self-contained and it back in the day, it would have been like an episode of Buck Rogers on NBC. Right. That's just give me that.
Sonny00:25:34And then you can move on from star Wars JVL.
Vic00:25:37Oh, sorry. I'm there. I'm doing your job. Sorry.
Sonny00:25:41I think where is it on the quadrants?
Vic00:25:44Oh, well, first of all, sex nudity gets an N a I give it the N a. I'm not expecting that. It's an F. It's not an N a. N a. I'm giving more N a's out. I'm giving more N a's out. Duration is great. That's an A plus. Plot is a plus. I don't think there was a moment that I was confused. I don't think there was a moment. I'm trying to think how I might have been confused a few times, but it helped me get with my wife and my son.
Sonny00:26:13Did you possibly think those black stormtrooper droids had people inside of them? No. At first, did you realize they were robots?
Vic00:26:21When I was a kid and I saw Star Wars in the movie theater, the first one in 1977, I thought those were robots. They looked like robots. And then later on when I saw they take off the mask and it's Han Solo and Luke Skywalker, I thought, man, it must be really uncomfortable with all the wires in there as well. So no, I did not. Thank you for asking that, Sonny. No, I did not think it. I was not so impressed by the look of those troopers. You kind of expect more, I think, in terms of design. Obviously very hard to kill, except for lightsaber. But yeah, obviously hard to kill. That's it.
Sonny00:26:56Get to that. Oh, I have it. They have a real bladder. Black Battlestar Galactica feel to them. They have a very good kind of of a Cylon Cylon Cylon, which I like old school, old school
Vic00:27:08Cylon. Yeah. Old school. Yes. Remember the old school side? I had the light that went back and forth. I I it is weird that this futuristic world with so many amazing weapons. Uh, and, and ships also co-exist on planets that are like third world planets, mostly.
Sonny00:27:29It's kind of, it's so you're saying it's just like the world that we live in right now.
Vic00:27:33All of them. I can't remember. We have interesting cities. They were all kind of like, I don't know, the outskirts. And here's my other thing that I hear correctly that, uh, that, uh, most of it isn't even,
Sonny00:27:45there's not much on location going on in the, so they, they, yeah, they shoot it in a special thing. I forget what exactly what it's called the bubble or something like that, but it's, it, it's essentially a like high, high tech, rapidly shifting CG environment that is, is essentially mad. It's essentially magic. I don't, I can't, I don't know how to drive it.
Vic00:28:07Okay. Like, like it's like the lines on football in the, some of our listeners are yelling
Sonny00:28:11at us right now. They're like, watch, watch the, watch the documentary about the show and after the credit
Vic00:28:19side, I don't watch it. I don't know. It's very much like when they have the yellow line for the downs on football. How do they step on top of it? It's a magic, magic, magic JBL.
Sonny00:28:31What did you, what did you make of the Mandalorian?
JVL00:28:33I have some questions. Oh God, here we go. So they fly from one planet to another planet in the episode called the passenger without using their faster than light drive. Yeah. I believe he says, well, you better use the privy now. How long are we supposed to think it takes to fly between planets without using faster than light travel?
Sonny00:29:03JBL. Are you, are you worried about the science and the space fantasy show? Cause I'm going to suggest to you that midichlorians aren't real. This is a mistake.
JVL00:29:11Do they have physics in star Wars? There's this thing where the, the Mandalorian ship is going through planetary re-entry and it's because they need a story beat.
Sonny00:29:23Planetary re-entry is suddenly a thing where it is designed to look exactly like the re-entry on Apollo 11, which was directed by that director's father, Ron Howard.
JVL00:29:34And there's like, oh, the heat show, how is it going to hold together and literally the episode before that, when you see planetary re-entry, it's just like, you know, like landing the plane. They have faster than light travel in the star Wars galaxy, but every single video screen we see everywhere. Is in standard definition. Why is that? Why don't more people have jet packs? They seem really useful. Like if you have a jet pack, you can basically solve any situation and they seem less expensive than having like a star ship or a land speeder or a faster than light drive yet. Like nobody has a jet pack.
Sonny00:30:11That seems. Maybe they're like best card steel. Maybe the technology has been lost. I think you have to earn it.
Vic00:30:16You have to earn the right. You have to earn the right. It's very hard to get a license for the jet pack.
JVL00:30:20Right? So a lightsaber can cut through literally anything in the entire universe, but not not as a warrior.
Sonny00:30:28It's again, this is a thing in the first season. Yes, you don't. You don't. You skip those episodes and you don't understand the importance of the best car.
JVL00:30:39So the force is everywhere. It just like flows through everything. It's around all of us all the time, but but we've got this really special rock. And if you stand on the special rock, then you can talk to a Jedi all the way across the galaxy. There are.
Sonny00:30:52No, there are forced convergences throughout the series in Dagobah, for instance.
JVL00:30:58Does that rock have a lot of midichlorians in it?
Sonny00:31:00Yeah, it does. It's got a lot.
JVL00:31:03How did Boba Fett escape the Sarlacc?
Vic00:31:06Did you watch this movie and did you watch this show intent on not wanting to enjoy it? Did you just want to resist it? Because if you just let yourself go, relax and let it happen, it's amazing.
Sonny00:31:20JBL, I they might answer the Boba Fett question in the Boba Fett series that is coming. Right. Oh, I can hardly wait. All that they announced this at the end of you watched the post credit scene on the final episode, right?
JVL00:31:31Yeah, I watched that. Did Gina Carano eat Gina Carano or she just on roids? That's just uncalled for.
Sonny00:31:39I think the original way you texted us this was did Gina Carano eat Carl Weathers, which is funnier. You should have stuck with that.
JVL00:31:47Bill Burr is secretly a pretty good actor, isn't it? Yeah, you said that, you know, it's full of great actors. I better than by the way, better people by how few of the guest appearances really work on screen. Bill Burr absolutely works. Katie Sackhoff was great. Warner Herzog was great. The whole series suffers the minute he leaves after like episode two or whatever it is. Timothy all fans is great. But Carl Weathers, Titus Welliver, Ming Na Win, Amy Sedaris, these people are like nails on a chalkboard. What do you think of Amy Sedaris to be killed?
Sonny00:32:24Yeah, she's she's not great.
JVL00:32:26I'll grant that she's coming. It's like she's walked out of a different production. Okay.
Vic00:32:31She's talking about the the mechanic lady in tech, the wacky mechanic lady. Yes. I felt like that was a real throwback to like an actual 80s TV show sci fi show, like her style of acting.
Sonny00:32:44Question though, what did what did you make of Michael Biehn?
JVL00:32:46Who was he again?
Sonny00:32:47Remind me. He was in the in the Ahsoka episode. He was in the Ahsoka episode. He's the he's the hired gun.
JVL00:32:51Oh, the hired gun.
Sonny00:32:52I thought Michael Biehn from from Terminator and from The Rock.
JVL00:32:56Yeah. And Aliens. He was fine being quite but but his heel turn at the end is not earned. Right? I mean, he's why?
Sonny00:33:04But it's obvious. Interesting.
JVL00:33:06He's clearly he's clearly going to do that always saying he's saying, You know what? I'm just a hired gun here. And there are things I'd die for. But this isn't one of them. The interesting thing would have been for him to just put his gun down, turn around and walk away. That would have been interesting. Interesting choice. Yeah. But this is a series which refuses to make interesting choices ever.
Sonny00:33:26One interesting choice is one interesting choice that it makes is depicting the destruction of the Death Star two as a disaster for the people who live on Tatooine. Very interesting.
JVL00:33:35Not enjoy implications. I can. So nothing happens. This is my chief complaint about about the Mandalorian. It. It is so plot thin. That you could literally sum up every single episode in a single sentence, which which I have helpfully done for us. Oh, Mando gets the armor. Mando gets to the planet with the people who know other Mandalorians. Mando was told about Ahsoka. We learned that Moth Esposito is wearing a Vader costume. We meet Ahsoka. Baby Yoda gets captured. That that is literally the first six episodes. Yes. Those six sentences would comprise between them about 240. You know, having the outfit that I learned our season, but that's no, but that's that's
Sonny00:34:24great, though. That's what you want from a TV show. You want to be able to sum up every episode in one sentence or fewer, preferably like sentence fragments.
JVL00:34:32I'm sorry. I'm sorry. The people who have talked about how great the wire is and the golden age of television and the complex writing of The Sopranos are now all of a sudden saying, oh, yeah, what I think great television is, is being able to sum up an entire 45 minutes.
Vic00:34:49In any characters, I wonder what did you lose your soul? That's what I want. But this is very dark. I like that. That's one of the points I was making enjoyable, but I'm not exerting a lot of mental energy that I would be in other series that have that that I find to be obviously more amazing that I like.
Sonny00:35:09This is this is one of the points I was making in my big boy review, which is that it is a throwback to a thing we don't get much of anymore, and that is one of the reasons why it is kind of entertaining. It is like it is a it is not trying to be the wire. If it was trying to be the wire, it would be deeply annoying. It is not trying to be Breaking Bad or The Sopranos. It is it is doing a different thing and it is doing a thing that is frankly better suited for the Star Wars universe. The Star Wars universe is inherently silly and and and and nonsensical and full of magic space wizards. It's not a thing that is designed to carry the weight of, I don't know, the decline and decline of democratic civilization. I'm looking at you prequels. You know, it is it just it's not it's not best suited for that. And and that is I mean, that's just why the show works for so many of us, I would say. Obviously not all of us.
JVL00:36:04So there are there are four four ways to do episodic weekly television. Well, you can you can do it if you only saw the look on Sonny's face. Listen, you can do it if you're telling a series of puzzle box stories that are incredibly intricate, like lost or alias. You can do it if you are showing the long arc of relationships developing, you know, Ross and Rachel, you that that works. You can do it if you're solving a weekly problem in interesting ways, like in Mission Impossible or MacGyver. And you can do it if you're watching characters that are playing with interesting ideas like Star Trek. Mandalorian has literally none of those things because the cast changes from week to week. There are no relationship arcs. Disney would sooner die than talk about an idea. So what you're left is you are left, as you say, Sonny, with the A-Team, except that the A-Team actually had interesting, compelling characters who you wanted to spend time with. You wanted to spend time with Hannibal and Murdoch and Mr. T. Does anybody want to spend a single second with Mando? Monotone Mary Sue, he is the most boring character, I think, maybe in the history of the Star Wars universe. I mean, he is and I don't say this lightly. He is more boring than Ray. He is main character. He's on par with Ray in terms of people who I enjoy spending time with. And in every episode, whenever you wind up meeting another character who isn't Amy Starris, the only thing I can think of is please leave the camera with them. Mandala. Let Mando fly off and leave the camera with Timothy Oliphant and let's just hang out with him instead because he's an interesting actor with interesting things going on and I would not mind seeing him having adventures week to week. I would not mind seeing even the the the nasty lady with the Spear of Destiny. I would not mind spending a week with her. You know, I it's I do. I don't understand. Anything. About why people like this, except nostalgia and fan service. Yeah, that's what this thing is.
Vic00:38:27Yeah, all this is, but is that wrong if they like you for those reasons shoved into your
JVL00:38:32brain to tickle whatever the cortical center is that houses all of the the pleasure centers for nostalgia and fan service and I and so Lee, I don't there was one good episode this season. The seventh episode was really good. That was the Bill Burr episode because it had like ideas in it and Bill Burr is a really interesting character and it was kind of it reminded me a little bit of a more serious version of. In the first season, remember that thing on the sand crawler where he's trying to get onto the sand crawl and he's fighting with all these these jawas like that was hysterical. That was really it was a funny bit, right? Cause he, you know, he's like doing the, the Mandalorian stuff and the jawas keep like bopping him in the head and he falls off. It was slapsticky, but it was really good slapstick and it was done well. And this was a, it had a version of that as you know, he's like fighting off all these guys. And then the weirdness of them pulling into the Imperial, uh, thing and getting the salutes from all the, you know, the weirdness troopers cheer like, like it's the end of, uh, of black Hawk down or something, you know? It's funny and interesting. And Bill Burr has all sorts of ideas. And when Bill Burr shoot that dude, the Imperial officer in the canteen, it's very weird that he has a Southern accent. I'm used to the British. That is very weird. That is out of nowhere. And it's kind of interesting. That's an interesting choice, right? Why does Bill Burr just murder this guy? And he murders him because he fucking hates him because of PTSD, cuz he hates him. Yeah. That was kind of cool. That was a whole, that whole episode was, was really good and there was very little nostalgia in it. The worst episode, maybe of the entire series. Don't say it, don't say it. The final episode.
Vic00:40:25Oh, I know I like the Boba Fett uses all his gadgets that I've always wanted to see him
JVL00:40:32use.
Vic00:40:33Oh, I bet I was, I was including the rocket, which is always, I thought a very awkward weapon. Cuz you sort of have to tuck your head in for the action figure. You wondered the same thing.
JVL00:40:45Okay. When I saw that. Yeah. I thought it is.
Vic00:40:49Are you sure it's not glued in? Very good. He must be one of the original pieces, uh, the, the ending, I think we all knew who it was. Yes. Even I was hoping it would be, but on the other hand, I was wondering, then they drag it out for like seven minutes.
JVL00:41:07Also seven minutes of making us watch, watch CGI, Luke cut scene his way through this. Make it stop. I'm like mashing the a button, trying to skip the cut scene. Can we just skip the cut?
Vic00:41:17See, do any of us know how that was done in the sense? Is it Mark? It's not, is it Mark Hamill and they did the air digital airbrush to make him look younger or is it his head on another person's body? Like grandma Tarkin in, um, rogue one.
Sonny00:41:33It's there. They were clearly trying to do something like they did in, uh, the Irishman where they were
Vic00:41:39using old body, but younger.
Sonny00:41:42Yeah. I mean, like that was Mark Hamill on set. Oh. Yeah. But they were, they were absolutely using like old images of Mark Hamill, not like trying
Vic00:41:53to de-age him, you know, on his face manually.
Sonny00:41:57I don't think, I don't, maybe, I don't know. It looked, it looked not fair.
Vic00:42:00Was Mark Hamill's body.
Sonny00:42:02Yeah. Oh yeah. Okay. I think that's my understanding. I don't know.
Vic00:42:07Maybe I'm wrong. JBL. What about, what about Grogu? Did you not, did you not find him adorable?
Sonny00:42:11Can I just, I just want to defend this a little bit because it, the best thing about Luke showing up and, and murdering all of those. Robots, uh, is that it made all of the last Jedi defenders really, really sad. There's a great spite element, uh, to all of this, which, which I thought you would appreciate JBL.
JVL00:42:29Tell me about it. What do you mean? I don't know.
Sonny00:42:32I mean, just like the, the, the critics who have spent the last, you know, three years insisting that the last Jedi is one of the great achievements of cinema, uh, and like the best star Wars movie possibly ever, certainly since empire strikes back, we're, we're very mad that Luke showed up and did, did, uh, Jedi stuff as, as a kind of kick ass Jedi Jedi master. And they were mad because it undercuts the whole, uh, subversion that Ryan Johnson was going for. And it, and it supposedly that this, this fan service, you know, it fed the bad fans of star Wars. It, it helped them, you know, regain the series from the, the more, uh, enlightened, I don't
JVL00:43:11understand the criticism. Like what is, how does it, what, what is it undermining from Rian Johnson?
Sonny00:43:17Well, I, I think it's very easy to square the circle. I think it's very easy to say, uh, Luke is a Jedi master. He's going around, he saves Grogu, whatever. And then he has failures later. And that, that sours him to the whole enterprise, which is like, it's not even, it's not even that complicated. But again, the, the, the defenders of the last Jedi are like, this is, this is unconscionable. How could they, how could they do this to the, the masterpiece? That is the last Jedi, blah, blah, blah. I'm just telling you what, I'm just telling you what happened in the discourse. JVL. You missed the discourse.
JVL00:43:49Yeah. I guess I did.
Vic00:43:51I Victorino. Well, I know. I was just going to say what I also noticed is in his fight sequence against the robots, uh, some of the actions that he did seem to be very dark force. Like, you know, there's one robot he crushes. Yeah.
Sonny00:44:07But you can do anything you want to droids.
Vic00:44:08That's how you're allowed to do that. That was very Vader. Like I thought it was cool.
JVL00:44:14I thought it was cool. So Marf, uh, Marf Esposito, he, he is the, the, the way they fail to pay off him as the heavy is like criminally bad storytelling. You know, we, we've been, they've been dragging this guy's ass around since episode seven of season one as the big bad.
Vic00:44:38And then it's like, eh, well, it only goes to show that, you know, all these people, all the, uh, not everybody in the empire is bad. That's what it shows. This guy seems pretty bad.
Sonny00:44:46He's not, he's not dead yet. So, I mean, I think there's, there's and he's got his research, his plus nine deathly
JVL00:44:52hallows saber.
Vic00:44:54That's great.
JVL00:44:55Dark saber saber, but it's the deathly hallows from Harry Potter. It only works for the, that's right.
Vic00:45:01That's right. It was previously, I don't understand that it was, it was, uh, previously, uh, belonging to Lucius Malfoy.
JVL00:45:07Yeah. I mean, there is something about Draco. There is something about dynamical meaning here, which is. The, I mean, one of the many, many problems with, with this series is that the lead character is essentially inert. There is, there is nothing going on with him. He, I mean, and I, I don't wanna bag on Pedro Pascal because one of the reasons episode seven is, is better is because they finally let him take his helmet off and he gets to act a little bit with his face, but as a voice actor, he's very bad. No. He doesn't sing with his voice. I disagree. It's just monotone. It's just monotone. Constantly.
Sonny00:45:51No, I disagree. You didn't, you didn't get, it didn't punch you in the feels a little bit when, when he's saying goodbye to Grogu, when he's saying goodbye to baby Yoda, he takes the helmet off and he, and, and he's like, he wants to say goodbye. Are you kidding? You weren't crying. You weren't crying tears of sadness.
JVL00:46:07I honestly can't tell if you think that that was an emotionally affecting scene or if you're just.
Sonny00:46:12Oh, I thought it was great.
JVL00:46:14Wow.
Vic00:46:15I mean. How about, how about when he said you raped her and you killed her? How about when he said that? Say her name. How?
Sonny00:46:22No. Sorry. He hasn't seen. He doesn't understand. Yeah. Sorry.
JVL00:46:28I, I have six people in my house and I tried to enlist them all to watch this show with me and everybody, the only one member of my house was into it. It was the four year old.
Sonny00:46:49And the other this is aimed at, you know what Disney is doing? Disney is, is generating a new generation of fans.
JVL00:46:57Uh, well that may be true. And if you want to tell me that this is a show for four year olds, I'm happy to believe that. I just don't understand the fan boy embrace of it.
Vic00:47:08Now I'm a daughter is the only one who doesn't like this show, but the rest of everybody else. I love the others.
JVL00:47:15Okay. The girls, they were, you know, when I was like, Hey, I gotta watch another episode of this show. They were like, no, no, thanks. Peace out.
?00:47:22We'll read a book.
Sonny00:47:23They, they, they want, I mean, they, I can't imagine they were picking up on any negative vibes from the parental influences in the family when they were, when they were doing
JVL00:47:32this here. I, I am actually, I am actually a little bit surprised that you don't, don't at least appreciate
Sonny00:47:39if not like actually enjoy the, um, the, the, you know, little bits here and there. Little bits here and there of Imperial propaganda, the, the, the, the, again, when, when death star, when the second death star is destroyed and everybody's cheering and like, Oh, look at this great blow for freedom immediately. The camp gets enslaved because you know what the, what happens? There's a power vacuum. People leave. It's, it's, it's, uh, or the, the complete inability of the new Republic to, to, uh, you know, take care of the outer rim to like protect the people there. Or, uh, I mean, I like, I don't know, man. I'm just, I'm kind of, I'm a little bit surprised, a little bit surprised.
JVL00:48:19I, again, this seems to me like a kid's show and I I'm super excited for the Asoka series that we're gonna get with Rosario Dawson.
Sonny00:48:28Asoka is to my mind, like the third most, or maybe fourth most interesting character
JVL00:48:33in all of star Wars behind Han Solo and, uh, how much more do we have to put up the two leads in road? One? No. Asoka is great. So do you know her backstory at all? Victorino?
Sonny00:48:46Do you know? Is it, is it gonna be a Thron series? Cuz that was like her big question at the end of, of that, that episode, where's where's a Thron?
JVL00:48:55Yes. So do you know Victorino who Asoka is in her backstory? So she comes to us from the clone Wars animated.
Vic00:49:03Oh yeah.
JVL00:49:04No, it's like then in the rebels animated series, neither of which are canon anymore,
Vic00:49:09which a lot of people, uh, young people are really into.
JVL00:49:14Right. And she was, uh, Anakin's Padawan.
Vic00:49:19I see.
JVL00:49:20And so this is when Anakin is himself. So pre his turn to, to Darth Vader, how old is she? So she's a kid when she is Anakin's Padawan, but here she's like a middle-aged woman, which is why Rosario Dawson is, is perfect for it. Maybe not perfect. Rosario Dawson's probably still a little bit young, but you know, I'm sure they can get by it by saying that her creature. Race is, you know, it lived for 300 years or something. Right. Yeah. But she, ah, Ahsoka is an interesting character and I would show up to watch, cuz again, this is a character and an actress that I'd be interested in spending some time with, and maybe they'll tell a story that parcels out more than one piece of information for every 42 minutes.
Sonny00:50:04I don't know why you would need any more than that, frankly. I think it's set up great for next season of the battle for Mandalore, cuz he's gonna have to go, he's gonna have to go up against the Mandalorian. Against the Mandaladians to control the, the, uh, the abandoned planet of Mandalore. It'd be fantastic.
Vic00:50:20I'm excited. I'm excited. There, there are also very deep questions for him about his existence and his understanding of where he came from and who he is, which I think are very, very interesting because, you know, you have this religion of it, but then you have Boba Fett slash Django, you know, that's interesting. Yeah. And they didn't know about him. He knows about them or they think that, you know, there was a reference to him being a clone, but they didn't realize that he's the actual. Yeah.
Sonny00:50:46So there, there is a, there, there, I, I do think there is also kind of an interesting kind of undercurrent of the idea of what it means to be a Mandalorian. Uh, the, the idea that you have this kind of radical religious sect, which is very aesthetic. That is all we have known of the Mandalorian people. And so when we see Katie sack off, take her helmet off, it's like, whoa, even we have been radicalized along with Mando. I mean, it's, it is, it's kind of interesting to see how, how. How all that's going to play out in season three, which I'm very excited for.
JVL00:51:17I'd be happy to spend a series hanging out with Katie sack off. She's great.
Sonny00:51:21Oh, let me, let me, let me.
JVL00:51:22So let me explain to you here, here, for instance, if I was going to sum up another, another series, uh, so the, the plots of the series goes, uh, the bad guy kidnaps the girl and a guy's got to chase the bad guy up building. And then the next episode, the guy's got to make his way through a bunch of elevators. And then the next episode of the guy's got to knock a bunch of bolts out and kill the, the good guy's going to knock a bunch of bolts out, kill the bad guy. Okay. So I've just described donkey Kong to you. And there is as much plot in the first three screens of donkey Kong as there are in three episodes of Mandalorian. Isn't that a problem?
Vic00:52:01No, I find it enjoyable because I don't have to exert a lot of energy for 45 minutes. I find myself, I really don't understand myself very entertained for 45 minutes. I watched it. A lot of heavier, you know, content. I wish you watched the crimson. I can talk to you. I could do my Prince Philip impression the entire episode. I would just do it that way. Yes. I talk about that suddenly.
JVL00:52:24Well, we'll do a second episode. We can talk about that.
Vic00:52:26Sorry. Let's continue, please.
Guest00:52:28Sorry. I like it.
?00:52:30I like it.
Vic00:52:31It doesn't do anything for me. I find it very enjoyable. And, and he was like, I don't know, like, he was like, Joseph, I don't know what you mean. I'm taking the baby Jesus, I guess touching, uh, he's, you know, without emotion, but clearly emotional. So I, I, I like that. And meanwhile, when, and, uh, you know, in, uh, speaking of which, so do you remember I, you know, you know where I liked her. I'll tell you where I liked her. If you say ER, I'm hanging up on you before that, the single guy, do you remember the single guy?
JVL00:53:10Jonathan Silverman.
Vic00:53:11That's right now that was like, oh, here, some new show is coming out in the midst of Fred.
JVL00:53:18So they must be good every year that Boston commons, basically, if you were a D level actor in the 1990s, there was a one in 30 chance that NBC was going to give you a sitcom geared totally around you in an attempt to find the next friends, Caroline and the city, Caroline and the city. And they never worked.
Vic00:53:39They never did.
JVL00:53:41They loved Victoria's Closet. They loved two guys, a girl in a pizza place.
Vic00:53:48No, no, no. Okay. No, that's getting crazy now.
Sonny00:53:51No, but the ones on NBC, the one with Ryan Reynolds.
Vic00:53:53Yes. No. And Kat. Kat, I think. What's her name? Kat Dennings. So no, what I was going to say is like there were shows not on that show. She was on.
Sonny00:54:03Oh, yes. No, it was. That's too late.
Vic00:54:06That's two broke girls. And that's CBS. Yes. On the NBC time slots between like Seinfeld and Friends. And they threw all this other stuff in between it. They always love to brag about how high those ratings were when clearly people just left the TV on and maybe use the bathroom, you know, did other things, but they just left the TV on until. Oh, okay.
JVL00:54:23Now it's never worked. You'd get like two seasons. And the Jonathan Silverman was like, it was always, they all, they, and what's interesting about it is that they were trying to make something work between Seinfeld and Friends, but they didn't bother following those formulas because the formulas for those two shows are that they're ensemble. Yeah. And all, everything they tried to shoehorn in there was based around a single Jonathan Silverman.
Vic00:54:46Jonathan Silverman. Right. It's very God. Those were the days.
JVL00:54:50Those were the days. All right. Spirit of the week. Sonny, what are you drinking? What's in the Death Star Ice Cube?
Sonny00:54:55Uh, I'm drinking a Busker Irish whiskey, uh, which was, uh, given, given, given to us by, uh, some friends of the show, but the, the, the Busker, I was Irish whiskey tripled cask, triple smooth. I am not a big Irish whiskey guy, but this is very, very drinkable. Um, which is, uh, which is, uh, the highest level of praise I can, I can dole out to a, uh, an Irish whiskey. Very drinkable.
Vic00:55:23Victorino, what are you drinking? Uh, I'm not drinking anything right now. I actually, uh, Are you doing Drineuary? I'm thinking of a Drineuary. And then I transitioned to Ginuary. Ginuary.
Sonny00:55:35Okay. Thank you. Same. I've been, I've, you know, I've been drinking. You know, I've been drinking more gin, uh, I've been, I've been drinking all the martinis.
Vic00:55:44Have you had, do you drink Plymouth at all?
Sonny00:55:47Oh yeah. I only drink Plymouth. Cause I'm not, I'm not, I'm not a farmer. Uh, I don't, I don't drink, you know, Beefeater or whatever, uh, with the, with the blue cheese olives, please. I go, I go to Spex and I buy the blue cheese olives.
Vic00:55:59Going all out. It's a big, that's festive for you. That's like a meal in one. You don't, you can just subsist on the martini with the blue cheese olives and you don't have to eat it. That's a diet.
Sonny00:56:08Yeah. Oh gosh. A very healthy one. I'm sure.
Vic00:56:12Oh, do you correction? I'm sorry. Do you add a, do you add a little bit of, do you add a little orange?
Sonny00:56:15What are you drinking? What are you drinking JBL?
Vic00:56:17Nothing. Do you add a little bit of orange, bitter, sunny to your martini or no? A little drop.
Sonny00:56:21Yeah. Just a couple of dashes. It's great.
Vic00:56:24Hmm. Corrections. Additions. Shout outs. Anyone? I just want to thank everyone again for, uh, going to the merchandise store.
JVL00:56:32It's been great merchandise as yogurt says, I want to thank my SSEU pal, Megan Walter. So Megan knows everything about cars because her family is in the car dealership business. And I was, I have spent the last, I'll just say three weeks, but it's really been three months texting Megan constantly in my quest of what should I do? Should I do this? Should I do that? Should I do this or do that? And she took me by the hand like a Sherpa and led me to the top of Everest where I found my Honda Odyssey EXL. And she was the best.
Vic00:57:10Thank you, Megan. That is a big deal, by the way, because without, we just had the mercy. We just had the mercy, even with the internet.
JVL00:57:17Okay. That's all.
Sonny00:57:19Do we want to thank Mary Katherine Hamm or are we going to do that in, in bonus, bonus talk in, in the extra, the extra time.
JVL00:57:26Let's do it an extra time. Okay. That's all the time we're giving to this episode. Questions, comments, complaints, compliments, tweet us @SunnyBunch, @VictorinoMattus or leave a comment.
Sonny00:57:37@JVLast. He's back on Twitter. And he's tweeting up a storm. He's tweeting. He tweets all the time. Now. He's, he's so mad.
?00:57:44It's great.
JVL00:57:45Leave a comment at subbeacon.com. We're there. Tell your friends until next time.
Sonny00:57:50I will, I will, I will say this quickly.
Vic00:58:00Uh, uh, I was before, uh, we taped, I just finished watching. It took me two days. I was watching with my son, Oliver stone's Nixon. It's a really great movie.
Sonny00:58:14Great movie. I know. I'm pretty sure J pod hates it.
Vic00:58:17Oh yeah.
Sonny00:58:18Oh, he's probably yelling at us.
Vic00:58:19He's yelling at his phone.
JVL00:58:20First of all, I think he loves the Mandalorian so much. And when I told him that I was going to crap all over it, he was like, ah, what is wrong with you?
Sonny00:58:30You're dead inside.
Vic00:58:31No, you really are. He's not wrong. It's true.
Sonny00:58:34You're not wrong. It's a good show. It's a good show that people like. I don't know. I just like liking things. I don't know about you.
Vic00:58:39I like it. It makes me happy. Uh, you know what? In retrospect, watching Nixon, um, Paul Sorvino, not a bad Henry Kissinger, a giant, he's a giant, but not a bad sound. Just like him. Okay.
JVL00:58:53Sorry. Superside Sonny. Do you want to give us a little shout out to our girl, Mary Catherine?
Sonny00:58:57Yeah. Very, uh, many thanks again for having, uh, Mary Catherine ham come on the show, fill in for a vacationing Vic Mattis. We sent her a little thank you gift and she, she. Purchased a fan, a ceiling fan. And I was very confused because the ceiling fan only had three blades. Is this a thing? Is this a, is this like a style thing? Is this like, does it create extra air? I don't understand why you would only get three when you could get as many as six or seven blades.
JVL00:59:24Have you purchased a ceiling fan?
Sonny00:59:27I literally have never purchased a ceiling fan. I've only ever used the ceiling fans that have been in the house when I, when I get there.
JVL00:59:33So this is you, when you are buying, you first decide whether you're buying them by width. Once you decide on your width, you decide on the number of blades. Once you decide on the number of blades, you decide on whether you want a flush mount or a hanging mount. After that, you decide whether you want lights integrated or not, et cetera, et cetera.
Sonny00:59:50Too many decisions.
JVL00:59:52Just go to Home Depot and pick one. Just be like that one.
Vic00:59:55Yeah, that's a thing people do. I, uh, I had a, we, we have a, uh, had, have a ceiling fan in our bedroom and, uh, it broke. Cause I was swinging on it.
JVL01:00:05No, I'd be, it broke. Swing in instead. So just put a love swing in instead.
Vic01:00:09Same. It's same. It works in the same thing. Uh, no. So what happened was I was flipping the mattress over, uh, and this is when we had a bad mattress and it was like, oh, you gotta flip it over every couple of months, you know, to even it out. We got a much better mattress. So I remember, and Kate said, I can help you with it. I said, no, I don't need your help. So I lift up the mattress and it's now pressed tightly on the ceiling because of, you know, it's, it's up there and I'm flipping it over and I, and then it got wedged between the two fan blades. I pushed it down. I pushed it down using force and I snapped one of the blades off and so it just snapped it broke. Uh, so that it was like three blades. I turn on the, uh, switch. Oh no. Yes. Who knew that? I don't understand why that happened. So my solution, they, you could not find the actual specific, uh, blade for that old fan anymore anywhere. Uh, so I just removed the other one and now it's a twin prop.
Sonny01:01:06I'm sure it's fine
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