#3. The Star Wars Holiday Special
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A Thanksgiving-week double feature on the two Star Wars Holiday Specials — the notorious 1978 original and Disney+'s new Lego Star Wars Holiday Special — with JVL, Sonny, and Vic (who's supposed to be the new host but confesses he can't do anything without a script). JVL delivers a gleeful ten-minute plot synopsis of the 1978 original: twelve unsubtitled minutes of Wookiees grunting, Grandpa Itchy's Diahann Carroll VR fever dream, Bea Arthur singing at the Mos Eisley cantina, a Jefferson Starship number, and the first-ever appearance of Boba Fett. The hosts land on the original being gloriously "interestingly bad" — bad enough to become immortal and mint valuable IP — whereas Sonny pans the Lego version for substituting references for jokes and building itself around Rey, whom he argues is simply a badly written, uninteresting character (JVL's simpler verdict: "it's not funny"). Both praise The Mandalorian Season 2 as proof Disney can still make great Star Wars when a real creative vision runs the show. The opening is packed with banter: Vic fumbling the host role, more Appalachian Trail talk (JVL worried the trail is too full of "fellowship"), Sonny's daughter getting a black eye off a playground swing, the feral peacocks roaming his Dallas neighborhood, and a genuine tornado warning that forced Sonny to shelter mid-recording.
From the show notes
What a show this week. Star Wars. Legos. Lego Star Wars. Hiking. Bea Arthur. Wookie-VR sex. A tornado. Not to mention the first appearance of Boba Fett and the worst animation in the history of animation. If you want to pre-game, go watch the OG Star Wars Holiday Special here . Happy Thanksgiving to all of you. Stay safe. Embrace the weirdness of 2020. And thanks for being with us.
Full transcript
Guest00:00:00The IncredibleHulk will not be presented this evening. The Star Wars Holiday special. Starring Mark Hamill as Luke Skywalker. Harrison Ford as Han Solo. The festive special guest stars. Beatrice Arthur. Art Carney. Diane Carroll. The Jefferson Starship.
Vic00:00:54Wait a minute, I thought you were hosting the show from now on. What are you pointing at me for? Do you want me to do that? You know what? No, keep it running. Are we running right now? I'll do it. No, I'll do it just for this inaugural. I'll do it for the kickoff. And then you've got duties beginning next week. I'll do it right now. I'll do it right now.
JVL00:01:11Ready? Watch this. Hello, everyone. Welcome to the Sub-Beacon on Patreon. You cannot find us on Stitcher. You're only here because you're giving us money to keep Vic loving us. Welcome to our special pre-Thanksgiving episode. Gentlemen, how are you? How's that, Vic? Wow. Give me a rate. Rate my room.
Vic00:01:33Wow. That's like an eight. There was like a little bit of a stop somewhere. But were you reading something? I'm looking at your eyes. You're definitely reading.
JVL00:01:41I can tell.
Vic00:01:42No. It's telepropterish. Not at all. It's telepropterish, Sonny.
JVL00:01:46What do you think? Hand to God, nothing. What do you think, Sonny? I made that up on the spot. Looked like he was reading.
Vic00:01:51Hand to God, nothing. A lot of readers, a lot of listeners don't know that I need a script for everything, even this. I'm actually reading this right now. And it says I need a script for everything. I actually wrote that down. And without it, I can't do it. Like, okay, so suppose I had to do the opening right now, right? Okay. Ready?
?00:02:08Here we go.
Vic00:02:09Hello and welcome to Sub-Beacon. I'm your host, Victorino Matus with Jonathan Last and Sonny Bunch. You can't even get our names right if it's not written down.
JVL00:02:19Subscribe.
Vic00:02:20Tell your friends some standard quotes, comments, reactions, corrections, shout outs. Question. Vic is stroking out. Great. Great start to the great start. That's how it is without the Patreon era. Okay. All right, boys. How are you Victorino?
JVL00:02:35How are you? See, since I'm the host now, I get to do that.
Vic00:02:41I'm doing fine. Been very busy. You know me. I'm so socially busy. And let's see. Did you have any super spreader events to go to? I no, no, no, no. Just a couple of outdoor gatherings and things. My, my daughter had a, an out, a backyard birthday party for a couple of friends. So I had to set up a special tent out there. In other words, my son set up the tent and then I just followed what he did. And then after that, I actually got roped into a singing Christmas carols with the Knights at a nother parishes. A winter festival. And when I was there which was very lovely a couple of girls asked to join in the singing care. Well, and no, I was very good. Is that allowed? I was, I was very good. I, I was, I was very good. They want to become priests too. I was like, so, so do you go to the high school here? And they were like, and, and, and, you know what? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. And, and, and you know what they said? I asked, I literally asked that and they said, no, no, no. You know, we're homeschooled. And I said, okay, let me rephrase that. Are you 18? I'm kidding. I didn't ask that. I said, no, let's, let's keep this clean. This is, you know, this is a fresh start for me. I said, excuse me, ladies. I got to go home and pitch a tent. That's what I said. Which I did.
Sonny00:04:12Still working on transitions. This is why you can't, you can't give up the hosting duties. Speaking of lightsabers. You can't, you can't give it up. It happens. It happens so naturally with you.
Vic00:04:23Remember, remember when I said Sonny, remember when I said that, okay, this is it. I'm not hosting anymore. I'm just, you know, Jonathan said, I just have to show up for, for shits and giggles. That's all you gotta do. And to paraphrase Arnold Schwarzenegger, I lied. I, I had to take some notes. I can't, I can't do that. I can't wing it. Okay. So that's, that's, what's going on with me.
JVL00:04:44Yeah. You know, speaking of tents, Victorino, I have been spending a lot of time. I came out our upcoming track down the Appalachian trail and I have come up with a, a problem.
Vic00:04:57Oh, thank goodness.
JVL00:04:58So as, as new Patriot listeners know from our first Patriot micro episode, the three of us are going to go and do just a little four or five, 10 day hike down a section of the Appalachian trail together. It's going to be amazing. It'd be like deliverance, but I am concerned about. I am concerned about one thing reading as much as I have in about the Appalachian trail and becoming a through hiker. That's what you want to be. The through hiker is somebody who, who was all the way from Georgia to Mount or whatever it's called in Maine. And I, I would like to become a through hiker. It's like a badge. It's like become basically it's like becoming a Navy seal or a member of the blue angels. Same. And the problem is it seems like there's a lot of, a lot of fellowship out on the trail. Oh, you hate fellowship. People meet each other and talk, and then they like meet up again, three states later and they're like, Hey, how are you wild bill?
Vic00:06:04Like just by, just by chance to me, just try chance. They'll see each other again.
JVL00:06:07They'll be like, oh, we meet again. I remember that one night when it was really cold.
Vic00:06:12Like I gotta say, I'm not into that. I don't want to hike the Appalachian trail to make friends. I'm sorry. No. And I'm the, I'm and I like to make friends, but not on the Appalachian trail. Therefore we have a problem.
JVL00:06:25So we're going to have to figure out if it, if, if there's a way for us to do this, where my natural, no, thank you. Misanthropy can become socially allowed because I don't want to be an outcast on the trail where all the other through hikers you'd be saying, oh, that's the crazy building.
Vic00:06:45Remember? If you used to put on, but over the course of 2,100 miles, yeah, that would be you.
Sonny00:06:51Huh? Sonny, how are you? Uh, I'm just waiting for my wifi to collapse. There's a decent chance here in a, in the next few, few moments that it might, um, uh, but I, everything is good with me. Uh, my, my, my daughter, uh, looks like somebody punched her in the eye, um, because she was, I don't know if your kids did this when they weren't quite big enough for the big swing but they were too big for the baby swing. She like sits on it on her stomach. She like lays on it on her stomach and like rocks back and forth. And, and usually this is fine. Usually this is totally fine. But today she fell out of it face first into the ground and just, I like, I, I, and you know, kids cry at the playground and wherever you're like, oh, they're fine. Yeah. But, but it went over and looked, I was like, oh no, that's not, that's bad. So we went, we went home, put some ice on it. Uh, and, and you know, that sort of thing. I, I'm excited to, uh, go bag, uh, a, a peacock for my Thanksgiving dinner. I noticed you talking about this. So here's, there's, there's a very, so there's a very strange phenomenon in my neighborhood. I live in a part of Dallas that's inside the city limits. I'm inside the city limits of Dallas. I live inside of Dallas, but like I would say a mile from my house, maybe about a mile. There's a street. Where there is, uh, a, a pack of peacocks and I don't know exactly what you call a pack of peacocks, a pride of peacocks or whatever, uh, uh, exaltation, a, a, a, a river of peacocks is what it is because they, they, they just, they don't have any predators, um, except for the coyotes that run around and we can maybe talk about them later, but the, uh, but no, there's just like peacocks all in the neighborhood, just wandering around, just like crapping on houses. And, uh, and getting in the road and they're like, do they do, did they do their thing
Vic00:08:50to you?
Sonny00:08:50Did they, uh, they have not because I've never gotten out of the car to accost them yet, but I am going to now, since this is what I learned from a, a Shakespeare, uh, a Shakespeare library, a Twitter account that apparently back in ye olden days in, in, on the continent, this is what they would eat, uh, for fancy for, well, for fancy meals, they would have, uh, peacocks. You'd save the plumes, obviously. Yeah. You would, you'd turn the, you'd turn the plumes into, I don't know, hats or, uh, cloaks for your, for your Kings or whatever. When they walk around, when they go, I'm sorry.
Vic00:09:28When they walk around, it's like, it's just a long, it's like they're dragging a long wedding train thing.
Sonny00:09:34No, it's like, I mean, it's literally, it's like as long as my table, my table's like, you know, I don't know, six feet long and it just like the, the feathers drag behind them. It's the craziest thing.
Vic00:09:44It's the only, it's the only thing. They only put it up as a defense thing. Is that correct or no?
Sonny00:09:48Well, it's a, I think it's a show.
Vic00:09:51It's made it. It's a made it. It's a lot of eyes. It's got a lot of eyes. The force field. I will run.
Sonny00:09:58They've got a force field. I have a story about that as well. So once at the, once at the, uh, Smithsonian zoo, the national zoo, I went into the aviary and there was a peacock just strutting around, just doing his thing.
Vic00:10:11They were free range at the aviary in the aviary.
Sonny00:10:15Right. And I, I, I just kind of like was walking on the path and came across it and like looked at it and it looked at me and then it put its feathers up and started rattling them like a, like a rattlesnake. It was crazy.
JVL00:10:24It was actually like mildly terrifying.
Sonny00:10:27Uh, only in the sense that like, I was like, if I get, if I get in a fight with this bird and I kill this bird, I'm going to jail. I don't think I can kill a peacock at the national zoo and just get away with it.
JVL00:10:37No, but, uh, closely related to the, uh, the Wayne night dinosaur from, uh, Jurassic park. Yes. Very much.
Vic00:10:46The very historically accurate Dilophosaurus or whatever it was.
JVL00:10:51Dilophosaurus? I think it might've been Dilophosaurus.
Vic00:10:53Yes.
JVL00:10:54So wait a minute. Two questions. First of all, I would assume peacocks are closely related to pheasant and over in Yale, Britain, they eat a lot of pheasant, right? Yeah.
Sonny00:11:04I think pheasant was, pheasant was like a common meal. Yeah. So are you going to go kill, are you going to go kill a peacock? I mean, I don't see why I, I don't see why I can't kill a peacock. Just to watch it die? Would it be, would it be wrong? Would it be wrong for me to kill a peacock? Maybe we should have a Patreon poll. Would it be wrong for Sonny to kill a peacock?
Vic00:11:22I just, you know what? I don't want to have to do the whole thing about where you got to remove the, you know, feathers and do the whole thing, but I would kill the peacock myself, but I wonder how it would taste, but I, I know you would, but I wonder how much it would, I wonder what it would taste like. Maybe it tastes like pheasant.
Sonny00:11:35I don't know. I assume it tastes like pheasant. I mean, it's bird. It's bird. Bird all tastes basically the same.
Vic00:11:41Some birds, the smaller, the better. I mean, I'm talking about chicken. I'm saying hummingbird. I'm talking about, yeah, yeah. I'm talking about eating.
Sonny00:11:49One time I got a pack of a hundred hummingbirds, just ate them bones and all real light.
Vic00:11:53No, you, you know, like they did in France with the, the, the, the, the birds of the case. I can't believe I'm forgetting this now. Somebody is going to be yelling at me for forgetting about this. Thank God. You know, the kind of the birds that would use their saliva to make their nests and it was all delicacy or the kind of birds that you would open up. Like if you read these books about, you know, the time of Karem and or before Karem, it would be the larger beast and then the birds would fly out, you know, as a bit of a show
JVL00:12:19who was Karem, who was a French, uh, chef, a famous, you'll have to forgive him, Sonny. He didn't write this down beforehand.
Vic00:12:27So I don't have my notes. This is all on the spot.
JVL00:12:30Yeah. All right. So the weekend box office weekend box office, there was nothing at the box office because the movies are dead, but wonder woman is coming to your beloved HBO max is how excited are you for the wonder woman two episode question.
Sonny00:12:46Now that, uh, HBO max is available on Amazon fire. Are you going to get the service and watch it on your TV like an adult? Or are you going to continue to kind of just, uh, pout about it and watch it on your laptop?
JVL00:13:02Hey, Sonny, you blew up on us again.
Sonny00:13:04Well, uh, what I was going to ask there was, uh, now that, now that wonder, uh, now that HBO max is available on Amazon fire, right? You have Amazon fire, don't you?
JVL00:13:15No, no. You have Roku.
Sonny00:13:17All right. Well, it's coming to Roku soon. There's going to, there's a Roku deal in the works. It's not there yet, but I think it's, I think it's right around the corner. Once it comes to Roku, will you download it to your Roku sticker, whatever it is that you use and watch it on your TV like a, like an adult?
JVL00:13:30Yeah. Okay. A hundred percent. I plan on watching wonder woman at 84 in glorious 4k on my TCL built in Roku TV. I'm very excited about this. Ooh, it'll be. It'll be even better than seeing in the theaters because this way I don't have to worry about an usher catching me at an inopportune time.
Sonny00:13:55Wow. I mean, you could just wear a shades moment. If you just wear a trench coat, like just wear a trench coat that cinches around the waist. You got to get one with a belt.
Vic00:14:04Did you like the original wonder woman? Cause this is before the podcast. We'd ever discussed. It's not.
JVL00:14:10Of course we talked to you, but we had a whole show about the movie, but old thing with Sonny on his misogyny. Rant about how we talked about what it was.
Vic00:14:17I mean, I don't remember when it came out.
Sonny00:14:21It's not at all. What I said, I believe KSA was very unhappy with that. That's not at all. What I said. No, you said that you refused to go see it.
JVL00:14:29No, that was black Panther. I saw a woman opening weekend. Just like you.
Sonny00:14:32I can, I can never remember which one of the wonder woman false, false.
Vic00:14:38I saw bits and pieces of it.
JVL00:14:41You were just blacking out between as usual.
Vic00:14:44I was just pretending. Just to go on because I really don't care. But anyway, but I like this one. This seems like an extended version of Stranger Things. Isn't it, Sonny?
Sonny00:14:52Somebody definitely listened to that episode like 10 times and is yelling at the at their iPhone right now. Like, I know exactly who watched what and who hated what.
JVL00:15:01Patty Jenkins. Patty Jenkins. No, we didn't like it. It's not a very good movie. You know what? Let me change that. It's like, it's a C plus B minus movie.
Sonny00:15:12I didn't hate it. I liked it more than that. I think I gave it three out of four stars. Way. Better than Captain Marvel.
Vic00:15:17Hmm. Yes.
Sonny00:15:18A million times better than Captain Marvel.
Vic00:15:20Also, I like the actor, Danny Houston, the youngest son of John Houston.
Sonny00:15:26Right, right. No, the first Wonder Woman actually had some like style. It had some like it had some actual visual flair to it. It like knew how to handle an action scene. And the big problem with that movie is that it had that awful kind of third act fight with the big C. G. I. Mars monster guy. Just Steppenwolf.
Vic00:15:49Was it Steppenwolf?
Sonny00:15:50No, that was not Steppenwolf. That was in that was in Jet Force League. That was much worse.
Vic00:15:54You know, what's scary is the Wonder Woman ride at Six Flags Great Adventure. I saw it up. I did not go on it because it looked insane, but lots of people would pile on and it's like a swinging pendulum, but it also rotates as it's swinging up and around and then it just blasts out the thing. It's like a theme song, like 24 hours, just like nonstop, like the TV show. Was this the Carter Wonder Woman? No, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's a it's Wonder Woman, Wonder Woman at Six Flags Great Adventure, which I mean, I was wondering what it was for this. I went there like last winter. For the kids. Wow.
JVL00:16:38Yes. Yes.
Vic00:16:40Which is the kids for the kids. It's like half of it is still old Great Adventure JVL. And then the other half is like slightly better, but it's all but it's all slightly better. It's heavily DC now. It's like, you know what I mean? They realize this is that's the cash. This is where the action is, is, you know, like almost all the rides. The big rides are all DC related now.
Sonny00:17:00Oh, oh, it's heavily DC like DC Comics. Yes, yes, yes. It's not like catered more to the DC audience. It doesn't have like a, you know, I don't know, a Chef Jeff's or whatever.
JVL00:17:12Excuse me. You better bleep that one. I know how much I know how much you.
Sonny00:17:15Love Chef Jeff's.
JVL00:17:17All right. So it is almost Thanksgiving script. Yeah. Transition. Transition. And so we are we're going to start the Christmas season a little bit early because on Disney Plus, the Lego Star Wars holiday special came out this week. Oh, and I watched it. Did anyone else watch it? I watched it. I did not watch it. Vic, you don't have to watch things anymore.
Vic00:17:54Yes. That's so good. We talked about that. Especially when I saw how awful you guys said it was. I was like, good. I'm going to save myself 45 minutes. That's 45 more minutes playing civilization. Continue.
Sonny00:18:04Sonny. You know what? What the problem with this thing is like, I should preface this by saying that I've never been a huge fan of the. Like Lego movie aesthetic. The kind of winking self-aware tone of it. It just it doesn't always work for me. The the the big problem with this thing is that it so the story is Ray decides that she has she she's got to train Finn.
JVL00:18:37I think it's John Boyega's name.
Sonny00:18:39John Boyega's character's name.
JVL00:18:41He's the next Jedi master, right?
Sonny00:18:43So she has to train him to be a Jedi. I guess I feel like that was something that happened at the end of my Jedis were born. Not no, no, I don't know, man. It doesn't matter. None of this matters. And to do this, she has to travel through time on Life Day. Remember Life Day, which was introduced in the original Star Wars holiday spectacular that later we'll get to that. She can travel through time on Life Day to see other Jedi masters at work teaching their Padawan learnings. I guess how to do their Jedi stuff. And the problem with this, the problem with this is that it forces us to reckon with the fact that Ray is a bad character who gives us nothing to care about with her. And and she's put up against all of these other more interesting characters like Darth Vader, like Yoda, like even like Luke Skywalker. You know, I got I got pushback from some people on Twitter who were like, you know, oh, well, Luke was also a terrible character in the first one, and he's just surrounded by more interesting people like Han Solo and Leia or whatever. And like, I get that to a certain extent. I understand that argument, except for the fact that that's the first movie. And she's had three movies to be interesting and has not succeeded to do that. She's like, the problem is Ray is just not a very interesting character. I don't I don't really blame Daisy Ridley for this, just like I don't blame John Foyega for Finn being a terrible character. And just like I don't blame Oscar Isaac for Dameron Poe being a terrible character. They're just they're just bad characters. They're poorly written. They don't they don't move very well. There's no real growth in any of them. They just it's it's not it's not good. So this is this is the fundamental flaw with the Lego Star Wars holiday special spectacular trip through life day, whatever the F they want to call it. It the the the thing does not work, not because of the Lego aesthetic that I don't super care for, but just because it is it's focused. On a totally uninteresting character coming into contact with much more interesting characters.
JVL00:20:50Yeah, I think that's too sophisticated and an explanation of why it doesn't work. I mean, it doesn't work because it's not funny.
Sonny00:20:57Well, sure.
JVL00:20:58I mean, I mean, that's the that's the what it does is it substitutes references for humor, right, which is the cheapest form, you know, like so the when we first go back to Tatooine go back in time and young Luke is there he's drinking from a carton of blue milk and it blue milk mustache on him and that's the joke, but it's not a joke. It's just a reference. Remember, they had blue milk on Tatooine and we remember that they had blue milk on Tatooine too.
Sonny00:21:26And look, there's blue milk, even though they're Legos, people love blue milk and that's what
JVL00:21:32it is over and over again. There was one funny sounds like a funny movie.
Vic00:21:36I need to check this out.
JVL00:21:37There's one funny bit, which is that they make gay Hux. Did you did you pick up on that?
Sonny00:21:44Was he gay? Was he supposed to be gay? Oh, yeah. He's like checking out the abs. Yeah.
JVL00:21:49Hux stumbles in on shirtless Kylo Ren, like being super shirtless and he's kind of gay for it. And that is actually pretty funny because it's not over the top, but it's it's just enough to be like, oh, totally. Hux is gay for Kylo. That's kind of great. But can I can I tell you something that I found almost funny? About the what's almost funny about this is right. The big the big knock on the character of Ray is that she's a Mary Sue. The entire plot of this Lego special is to ostensibly convince us that Ray is not a Mary Sue because the plot revolves around her finally failing at something. She's failing at being a good teacher. And so she's like, I've got to figure out how to be a good teacher. And she's failing at it. And so she goes to some other planet and she finds a special key and the special key is what allows her to go back in time. And as she does this throughout the course of the episode, at the very end, she discovers that she's so powerful that she can manipulate space time even without the key. And so they begin with the idea of like, hey, look, she's not a Mary Sue. Look, we're we're setting up a conflict for Ray. And then they solve it by giving Ray powers that nobody else in the entire Star Wars universe has ever had. Yeah, because that's how powerful she is that she could. Just like literally wave her hand and open up a portal in the space time continuum.
Vic00:23:20Easier than Superman and the original Superman is turning the world backwards. But he had to actually try. So, you know, what's funny?
JVL00:23:28I just saw the Ninjago movie this past week through no interest of my own. This was G Money just wanted to see it. Why did he want to see it? I don't know. He didn't really know what Ninjago was. We talked about this movie and we talked about how little I think we literally had a joke on one episode where we were like, how much would you have to be paid to go see the Ninjago movie?
Vic00:23:55It was so great.
JVL00:23:58It was so great. Really? It is laugh out loud funny from start to finish. It's about something actually kind of interesting. It's about divorce. It's not about ninjas or anything. I mean, it's got ninjas in it, but it's really about divorce. Because the setup is that the main character is one of the ninja heroes and his father is the chief bad guy who is trying to take over the city of Ninjago. But his father split when he was born. And the two of them wind up having to go on a journey where he desperately wants his dad to be a real dad. And his dad is just this total asshole.
Sonny00:24:44It's this great moment.
JVL00:24:45When he's like, Dad, you ruined my life. The bad guy's like, How could I have ruined your life? I wasn't even there.
Vic00:24:51That's good.
JVL00:24:52But the whole movie is filled with really funny gags like that. And so I am a sucker for a certain type of Lego humor. But weirdly enough, it only works with Lego branded properties and with the DC branded properties. When it comes to Star Wars and Marvel, both owned by Disney. There is no they're totally devoid of humor. And this is you see this through all the Marvel Lego specials and the Star Wars Lego stuff. It is as if Disney has really tight creative control over these things and just doesn't want anything that could be read as subversive, like at all full stop. And so what you wind up with is this totally disposable piece of entertainment.
Sonny00:25:42I kind of see that, except for the fact that the Mandalorian. Mandalorian is so good and not necessary. I don't know that it's necessarily, you know, particularly subversive or anything, but it is it's an exceptionally high quality piece of Star Wars of filmmaking.
JVL00:26:03That is Disney making it itself as opposed to the Lego studios making the thing they're licensing from Disney, I guess.
Sonny00:26:14Yeah, I guess that's right.
JVL00:26:15Yeah, I mean, this is, you know, I could see where where Disney would have, you know, so long as they're writing, so long as they're actually running the whole show. Yeah, they will. What you wind up with is this is again, this totally disposable. Next week, forget next year, next week, nobody in America will remember that they saw this thing. Yeah, nobody will ever watch it again. It is not offensive. It's not funny. It's it's just Vic. I don't know. What is the least filling, most insubstantial? It's like those rice puffs that you get and like, you know, those rice cakes.
Sonny00:26:53Yeah. Are you talking about at a buffet? What's the least filling thing that you get?
Vic00:26:57Oh, no, no, no. Like the snack. You know, those rice cakes that were like those fried rice cakes. I do people that they were because they were like on a diet. And so they ate that health and there's yeah.
JVL00:27:08And there's nothing there. There's literally nothing there. It's like having a box of snack rolls or something. And that's that's what this is. And so. So I, I don't know if you guys want to talk about this or not, but I know. So I went back and watched the original 1978 Star Wars holiday special. All 90 minutes of it.
Sonny00:27:33That's you are. You are a prince among men because I got through about 12 minutes of that. And I was like, nope, 30 minutes.
Vic00:27:40I stopped that. I stopped after the Diane Carroll sequence. For some reason, I got very sleepy after that. And then, but so can I get Diane Carroll in 78? Well, she always looked great, but she just recently died. It's like, this is like a flashback.
JVL00:27:55My mentioning anyway, go ahead. So can I set the scene here? Can I set the scene here for anybody who is listening, who has not seen this? Because I had vague memories of seeing this when I was a kid. I saw not when it was his first broadcast, but on a rebroadcast when I was five or six broadcast.
Vic00:28:11I was five.
JVL00:28:14So I, again. Only vague memories. And you start by watching it and it opens with a scene that is, it's Han and Chewie in the Millennium Falcon, but it's not the real Millennium Falcon.
Sonny00:28:28It looks like a set in somebody's basement.
JVL00:28:30Yeah. And they're talking and having, they're being chased by star destroyers. And then we go to the credit sequence and all of a sudden it's like a variety show where it's like, but it's a cast of Star Wars holiday special starring B Arthur and Harvey. Harvey Corbin with music by Jefferson Starship. And I was like, Oh God, what's that? Oh God, this is a variety show, isn't it? So we, we go to, uh, to the beginning of the special itself, but don't forget JVL.
Vic00:29:00They also tease it because they open who gets the top billing in that intro is Mark Hamill, Harrison. Like they're all in this movie. Oh my James Earl Jones. Really? As Darth Vader's voice.
Sonny00:29:15And of course, Carrie Fisher, who has like the look on her face in the intro is like, it looks, it, if, if looks could convey, I can't believe I'm doing the worst thing that I've ever done in my life. Uh, that would be it.
Vic00:29:29I was going to say, I had two words for that. Look, angel dust.
Sonny00:29:32All right.
JVL00:29:32So, uh, so before we begin with the, the show proper, we get a card saying that this is presented to you by GM. And the tag is then people building transportation to serve people. If anybody was ever curious as to why for three decades, the Japanese ass fucked all of Detroit. That's why it's like, it's, it's like you made it up in a border. You could see the Don Drapers sitting there saying, I'm sorry, you want your slogan to be people building transportation to serve people. Are you? Are you fucking getting me? Right. Right. Amazing.
Vic00:30:17So it is. Yeah. If you want to, you know, David Halbert. No, this makes it sound like I read the book. David Halbert. The reckoning is an amazing sort of how the Japanese beat the Americans at their game. But continue. Anyway, so the show opens with Wookiees. Yes, Sonny.
Sonny00:30:38The the tornado sirens are going off. What? In Dallas right now. So if I, if I, if I disappear for a moment, you guys talk amongst yourselves. I'm going to figure out what's going on here.
JVL00:30:49All right. Well, the cow flies through.
Sonny00:30:50Yeah, I'll let you know what's going on.
JVL00:30:52So we open in the the home of Chewbacca's family and we get Chewbacca's wife, Chewbacca's son, Lumpy and Chewbacca's crotchety grandfather.
Vic00:31:06No, Chewbacca's father, Chewbacca's father, Chewbacca's father, Lumpy's grandfather.
JVL00:31:10Itchy. And the three of them have a sequence. Where all they do is grunt at one another. And this runs for 12 minutes without subtitles. Well, subtitles minutes on prime time. That's 12 minutes with like six minutes with two minutes of commercials, then three minutes with one minute. I mean, 12 uninterrupted minutes of Wookiees grunting at one another.
Sonny00:31:37Hey, yeah.
JVL00:31:39Do you have to go?
Sonny00:31:40Is it real? There's an actual tornado warning right now. OK, in Dallas. So I'm going to I'm going to just let this keep running. Hopefully my house doesn't blow away.
Vic00:31:48But you're going into your. Do you want to get out of the basement?
Sonny00:31:51Yeah, we're going to I'm going to get the kids and take them to, you know, an interior room.
JVL00:32:01OK, we had some technical difficulties there because Sonny had to run inside from a tornado warning. I had to shelter in place.
Sonny00:32:10Is that what they do in Texas?
JVL00:32:11You have tornadoes. What do they call them in Texas?
Sonny00:32:14Twisters. Twisters. We got a twister. I don't know. I don't know what they call it. It was a twister. It was terrifying. No. So here's it wasn't actually terrifying. I used to live in Florida, so I'm kind of used to dealing with the whole tornado slash hurricane thing. I it was funny because I could hear a siren in the background and I kept muting my mic because I was like, God, they're going to hear it's going to
Vic00:32:39pick up this this cop car that you had a weird look on your face.
Sonny00:32:42Yeah, I know. It was really it was really annoying. I figured there was. It was a cop car or something on the on the street, rousting the drunks in my nice, almost suburban neighborhood. But no, I Beth comes into the room where I have like couched myself to try and get slightly better Wi-Fi. And she's like, the tornado sirens are going off. I was like, what are you talking about? It's not even raining out there. But sure enough, tornadoes. There was a tornado warning. But now it's been downgraded to a severe thunderstorm warning with damaging winds. So I could still I could still die. I could still die. It's possible. I'm in a I'm in a room with a big glass door. So can I hopefully that doesn't blow in and can I say this?
Vic00:33:23You know, the movie Twister.
Sonny00:33:25Yes, I'm familiar with the movie Twister.
Vic00:33:28The opening where it's when Helen Hunt was a little girl and they went into that shelter when the tornado came and the father gets sucked into the I always thought that, you know, if the mom was there blocking the entrance, that they would have all been safe.
Sonny00:33:44Because she's a big girl. So what is that? What's your is that? What's your is that? What you're getting out there? Buffalo Bill. A little thing up in there. You know, was she a big girl? What does he say?
JVL00:33:56Was she? Was she? Oh, was she a big fat person?
Sonny00:33:59I think that's isn't isn't that a great big fat person? No, that's the line.
JVL00:34:03Oh, wasn't she a great big fat awful.
Sonny00:34:05So basically me again. Me again. It's funny has gone on to the coronavirus.
JVL00:34:11We don't know because I always say you have a rounder face.
Vic00:34:14You have around.
Sonny00:34:15It's the worst. I've just been eating and drinking.
Vic00:34:18Can't tell. Would you see the beard? I can't. It's hard to tell.
Sonny00:34:21All right. So I didn't die. You guys were talking about the Star Wars holiday special. The original. Where did where did I miss? Where did I leave off?
JVL00:34:30Let me just give. I'm going to continue. I am going to give a like full three minute plot synopsis here for people. They can understand exactly how insane this is. We have 12 minutes of Wookiees grunting at one another with no subtitles. Then we get a little baby Wookiee staring at a bunch of people dancing in weird body suits, but they're hologrammed little miniature people. So it's like he's watching TV or something and there's music in the background. Then we get Mama Wookiee watching the Wookiee version of Juliet Child, where she says that she is cooking Bantha surprise. But the woman cooking the Juliet Child figure is not herself a Wookiee. She's a four armed human being. Then we get some action scenes from the actual Star Wars movie spliced in as if they are happening contemporaneously. Then Grandpa Wookiee does a Don's a virtual reality wig or virtual reality rig where their colors flashing on the screen for two minutes like it's 2001 literally. Sat there with a stopwatch timing all those two minutes of just colors flashing on the wing and then morphs into what was this? Diane Carroll, Diane Carroll, who basically says, I'm going to fuck you VR style, right? Victorino, I'm not over.
Vic00:36:03I was literally I'm here for you for the link yesterday. I am your pleasure. Yes. Thank you for the link yesterday because that was the best quality that you could hope for. And it was taped directly from. I'm like, you know, from the where the guy was in Ohio. Do you HIO or something? Fantastic. Dayton. Yeah. It was fantastic. So, yes, that sequence starts and you start and I'm there with my kids who think the whole thing is hilarious, but I'm wondering, is this going where I think it's going?
JVL00:36:33And I remember that this is this was on at eight o'clock on CBS. Yes, this is primetime. That was really something. And I am telling you this. I don't know if you made it this far, Sonny.
Sonny00:36:44No, no. I stopped where we had the the writhing bodysuit wearing holograms doing their work. It actually what it reminded me of what it reminded me of. I'm sorry to just digress here, but it reminded me of a scene in David Lynch's Mulholland Drive where there are these two old people and they're very tiny little old people and they sneak in under a door and they torment one of the actresses. That's what that reminded me. It reminded me of something out of David Lynch is what I'm saying.
JVL00:37:12Vic didn't see that scene in Mulholland Drive. No.
Vic00:37:14No, although it did pretty well in the quadrants. So continue. Yeah.
Sonny00:37:19So very long. It's you. That is not a quadrant. Happy movie. Really? I'm sorry.
JVL00:37:23We next get Carrie Fisher, who is high as a kite and not wearing a bra. Yes. We then switch to an animated feature, which is the worst animation you've ever seen. Isn't it the first appearance of Boba Fett, though? Must be. But it is the first appearance of Boba. Boba Fett. We then move to back to non animated to live action. And we get an entire scene with Tim Conway, I think, who is the Wookiee child has been given a life day toy, which is essentially like an erector set or something like an electric. And he watches a video on how to assemble it. And they show us the entire video. And the video is Tim Conway talking about how to. And then you take the spam. And put it in here. And how funny could they is the quote continue. But what happens next is that B. Arthur is the barmaid at the Creature Cantina on Mos Eisley. And there's this weird sad sack who's in love with her because men all over the galaxy. Be in love with Beatrix Arthur.
Sonny00:38:41Just just forget the joke.
Vic00:38:44And the Friars Club about the Arthur.
JVL00:38:47I wouldn't I wouldn't fuck. It was said to be Arthur's deck, right?
Vic00:38:51That was wasn't said. Yeah, he said because it was it was the Friars roast for Jerry Stiller. And Sandra Bernhardt had just gotten done doing her shtick. And the other comedian, what's his name, comes up. He just says, I would fuck such a bird. I would be Arthur's dick.
Sonny00:39:06Sorry, it's so happy Thanksgiving, everyone.
Vic00:39:10Oh, sorry. Yeah, I don't enjoy this in the Astro van. Patreon.
JVL00:39:15OK, let's down the the sad sack humanoid customer at the creature cantina. She then sings. And she has such a wonderful voice as you know. And what she sings is basically a song that feels like it's been copied out of the Fiddler songbook or something. It sounds like Fiddler on the Roof. Uh huh. Really, it's unbelievable. Then we get a musical interlude by Starr. Ship airplane jobs, right? Jefferson Starship Starship, not Jefferson Airplane, Jefferson Starship. And and then there's a life day ceremony with all the Wookiees heading. And then we get a Carrie Fisher musical number. I am telling you. And here is the difference. This thing. Is so bad. That it becomes immortal almost instantly, it creates an incredibly valuable piece of intellectual property in Boba Fett. And it is a thing that we are this in 1978. So we are still talking about this almost 50 years later. And this is what Star Wars had then that it does not have now. And you put this up against the Lego Star Wars holiday special. Yeah, and that thing just again, it looks like the rice cakes compared to like some sort of crazy ass boiled octopus with crazy sauce and like you taste it and you can't believe it and gag on it. But then you and your friends talk about that fucking octopus that you ate that one time for the rest of your lives.
Sonny00:40:54Yeah, I what's fascinating about it is that the first again, as you say, like 12 minutes is just Wookiees talking without any without any, you know, subtitles or anything. And you don't need the subtitles because they're basically doing Christmas preparations. That's what, you know, Life Day is is is Christmas or whatever. Uh, and I have always argued, I've always argued that the thing that Star Wars needs to do is have Mel Gibson make Apocalypto, but on Kashuk have have a Mel Gibson doing Wookiees trying to fight back against the the Empire forces and just make it incredibly violent, like hard are Wookiees ripping arms off and beating stormtroopers to death with them, you know, eating, eating their friends. And that sort of thing and just like do just doing it proper, but have it be again in like entirely in Wookiee, entirely in Wookiee and without subtitles. So basically what what this special has proven to me is that that is a totally viable creative option and they should do they should go for it. They should 100% go for it.
Vic00:42:06I can see it.
JVL00:42:07Victorino, do you have fond memories?
Vic00:42:09Yeah, I could say that's a very Sonny Bunch idea, by the way. I I remember how excited we were at neighbors across the street because if it was Christmas, it might have was not a Christmas day that it came out. I don't remember because we were over at our neighbors across the street where they usually had some sort of a Christmas like party like you to come over during the day or the afternoon. And I remember, you know, that goes into night and being so excited because we heard that there was going to be Star Wars on TV on TV a year, a year after. This is before you even had VHS, right? You could never see a Star Wars at home. This is before you even had VHS, right? You could never see a Star Wars at home. This is before you even had VHS, right? You could never see a Star Wars at home. This is before you even had VHS, right? You could never see a Star Wars at home. This is before you even had VHS, right? You could never see a Star Wars at home.
Sonny00:45:14This is before you even had VHS, right? You could never see a Star Wars at home.
Vic00:45:44This is before you even had VHS, right? You could never see a Star Wars at home.
JVL00:46:14I wish I wish English had a word for a very particular type of disappointment that a young boy or an adolescent boy feels when he believes he has been promised something amazing and then is instead given something else that stinks, right? Like this is a very, you know, you guys know the type of disappointment I'm talking about, right? It is like the, you know, the blockbuster, you go to blockbuster video and you
Vic00:46:44check out the Shannon Tweed box cover and then there's no nudity in it, right? You're like, what is this? And that I think for you, Vic, this is probably the earliest example of that. Yeah. You had been promised something amazing based on like commercials and the teaser at the beginning when they show everybody there, this is going to be great. And I, it's sort of, they kind of did that years later with amazing stories. And there was a special way. I know not amazing stories with young Indiana Jones, Indiana Jones. And there was one where they, they promised that Harrison Ford was going to be in the episode. And it's just the beginning in the end. And then the middle of it is still young. Still young. Harrison Ford shows up in this thing and he works. Harrison Ford is not mailing it in. No, no, no. He's, he's actually trying to sell the scenes that he's in. And even though he clearly knows how bad it is, they all know it is written all over their faces, but he's not just cashing a check. He's working hard. Speaking of face, he's a movie star. Speaking of faces, what I saw the, uh, clip that say, Oh, and a special cartoon with, you know, you see Boba Fett and like, Oh my gosh, this is going to be amazing. But, um, uh, I was, uh, you know, looking at a Luke Skywalker and I'm thinking, Oh, because I saw Boba Fett, this is going to happen after. And
JVL00:48:14Empire Strikes Back, but it didn't. Right. That explains why, uh, Luke's face is still. Yes. Because he's young. He hasn't had the accident yet. He hasn't smashed his face into a motorcycle wreck. And you know what? You can draw a direct line from this holiday special, which is infamous for how bad it is to the Mandalorian, which is the most successful thing that Star Wars has done since the originals. Uh, well, you mean artistically successful or.
Sonny00:48:44I mean, uh, uh, you know, so maybe I'm overstating it, but because I mean, I mean, the Force Awakens grossed $2 billion and, you know, had lots of toys and stuff. I mean, the Force Awakens, we should not downplay. Yeah, no, no. I mean, I know what you're saying. Yeah. You don't get the Mandalorian without Boba Fett showing up in Star Wars holiday special. Oh, JVL quickly. So what was the nature of Boba Fett's appearance in the Star Wars holiday special?
JVL00:49:14He is a bounty hunter and he presents himself as a person who hates the Empire and is there to help Luke. But it turns out the whole time he's working for Darth Vader and he's communicating with Vader and agreeing to capture both Luke and Han and bring them in. Really? And it is only the droids who discover his skullduggery. Oh, and allow. But there are also dinosaurs. Because why not? Why wouldn't Boba Fett? Fly around in the world. It looked like Hanna-Barbera quality sort of animation. It's so much worse. No, no, no. This is literature. It is the worst animation I've ever seen in my life. I will. I will grab. You've seen a lot. I will grab a still from it and pop it into this is going to have. There's me a lot of show notes in this post when I put it up tonight at two in the morning. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry about all the editing that you're. That's okay. It's that you people can listen to it while you
Sonny00:50:14drive to your super spreader Thanksgivings. It's I don't know. I it's an amazing thing and it shows how vital Star Wars was as a pop culture force. It is. It's it's interesting bad, which is much better than being boring bad. I mean, like I, you know, nobody's going to be talking about the movie Hillbilly Elegy and, you know, in a year because that's just boring bad. It's just kind of normal run of the mill boring bad. But the Star Wars holiday special is a special sort of bad that will that will live in infamy forever. I do want to talk a little bit about the Mandalorian. I know you haven't been watching the new season. But Vic, you you've been watching it. You love it. It's great. Yeah, it's so good. Fantastic. It's formulaic. I mean, it's sort of like, you know, I need to get from here to there. And these people help me, but they'll help me. But as long as you help them on their mission. But see, I think this is I don't mind. I don't I think this is a key. I think this is a very important key to understanding why it's a success, though, right? Because like the you know, what what we have lost in this like great era of prestigious TV is the kind of episodic nature of television. We have lost very, we have lost the like, ability to kind of duck in and out of a series and watch an episode here or an episode there. And this isn't quite that episodic. It's not quite pure a team or bounty law, or gun smoke or whatever, right? It's like, is it? Yeah, you like that? It's like, it's it has kind of an overarching through line that follows the story. But each episode is so independent that it could essentially work on its own without the overarching story. And that's what that's why I think you don't have to know the whole thing to watch. Right. And I think that is why it is a successful TV show, because it's frankly kind of strange now to have that sort of thing. But also, I think it's why it's a successful Star Wars property. Because it it is just a series of adventures that are that are very loosely stitched together. And it's got some great puppet work and all that stuff. But I mean, it really is just an adventure show that is kind of fun and silly and exciting and has and and has some, you know, neat little moments in it. I think this season has been great so far. Timothy Oliphant was fantastic in the first episode. Major Pascal is really good. And I
Vic00:52:44I love, you know, tell me what's happening. Give me give me. I just like his rapport with the Baby Yoda. But no. So he knows he wants to bring Baby Yoda back to his people. And he has now in this current season been told that, you know, he needs to bring them to a group of people known as the Jedi, which he apparently is not familiar with. But that's where they are. But of course, the other interesting thing about it is, you know, post empire, things are terrible. You know, there's
Sonny00:53:14there's, there's a there's a great episode. There's a great moment in the first episode where Timothy Oliphant is recounting what happened in Tatooine because they're in Tatooine. It's in some hologram of the last village of Tatooine. And there's a hologram of the second Death Star exploding. And everybody in the bar cheers and everyone's like, Yeah, this is great. And he says that literally moments later, the mining, you know, in guild or whatever burst into the bar and started shooting everybody and enslaved the town because the empire was gone. Empire was gone. Order, order had collapsed. And and slavery was back on the menu, boys. I can't believe I am not watching this show because it sounds like it's another validation from Disney that we were right. We were right all along. We were right. Now there are some there are some new Republic X-Wing pilots in this who try to try to, you know, provide the pro
Vic00:54:14Republic propaganda that they've been forcing down our throats all these years. But no, it's cops, the rebellion, the X-Wing pilot who are acting like cops down. They have to take down reports and things like that when they think, oh, there's, you know, some incident happened. They're basically fat cops. And you should watch the first episode, JBL. I think you would actually really. Oh, yeah, especially with Tim Oliphant. You'd love it. It's right up your alley. So have you guys noticed, Sonny, you have in your home a baby Yoda? Yes.
JVL00:54:44Did you? Did you pay attention to the packaging? Because I believe on all officially licensed Star Wars packaging, they refer to this character as the child. Yeah, they don't call it baby. And they then somewhere else on the packaging say the child, a character also lovingly known as baby Yoda. Yeah. I wonder how long they will continue to try to fight the culture on this. It reminds me of McDonald's when
Sonny00:55:14people started calling McDonald's Mickey D's and McDonald's fought it and fought it and fought it and then eventually just gave in. And all of a sudden there were commercials where it's like, hey, Mickey D's is where it's at. Eventually, Disney and Lucasfilm are just going to have to let they just have to officially call it baby. I mean, I think I think what they always say is this is not baby Yoda. Yoda is not the species. This is not the baby version of Yoda, you know, blah, blah, blah. But yeah, no, baby Yoda is what that that character will be known forever.
Vic00:55:44That's that is the the the character's name. Interesting. Interesting.
JVL00:57:13Interesting.
Sonny00:57:43I think that you have to I what they have to do is they have to bring in a real creative vision to actually somebody with real creative vision to take over right you need a Kevin Feige or even a Jon Favreau like why not just give Jon Favreau I trust control of the of the property and like promote Kathleen Kennedy to you know studio.
Vic00:58:13Watcher chief in general of all Disney I her longevity is so impressive because not long ago I was watching with my son before Halloween poltergeist which was on Amazon or Netflix I mean she's been she was you know Kathleen Kennedy you know she was she was Spielberg's producing partner for I don't 3040 years right I mean like it like Spielberg and Lucas and Kathleen Kennedy and although I don't know I but I mean I really that's
Sonny00:58:43the first thing that they have to do they have to get rid of they have to promote Kathleen Kennedy they have to put somebody in charge who knows what he's doing and has an idea and like more importantly knows how to like work with creatives again a Kevin Feige or a were like Jon Favreau or somebody just somebody and let them let them actually come up with an interesting trilogy I mean this the other thing that we have to consider is that there's there's always been the possibility that Star Wars is inherently not nearly as interesting as we have always made it out to be that it is that it is only interesting insofar as it is the Skywalker saga now that that's done maybe Star Wars is not actually worth pursuing as a massive operatic sort of thing I don't know but I think that the Mandalorian shows that you you have to have somebody with vision and have a kind of clear focus of what you're doing and just let them do that the the problem with the the sequel trilogy has always been that they that you essentially had JJ Abrams make a thing Ryan Johnson undo all of the things that JJ Abrams did and then have JJ Abrams come back and undo it all and try to redo essentially two movies worth of material in the last ninety minutes of a of a terrible terrible movie I mean I just like there there needs to be somebody in charge who says this is what we're doing and then do it may I may I put a name forward sure Joss Whedon
Vic01:00:13probably sure why not it would actually it would actually be a much better fit than Justice League that's for sure yeah yeah I think you can say to that he's in movie jail he's in movie jail right well he got he got canceled he got canceled oh he's oh one last crazy thing here Victorino go ahead Star Wars no the holiday special the other the other special guest star was Art Carney right Art Carney from the Honeymooners the Honeymooners and of course one of his final things I believe he was the uncle and last actor action hero he was Arnold Schwarzenegger's you know the old guy he's tied up in the chair the old man you know and he comes in to rescue his uncle anyway Art Carney but really everyone remembers him from the Honeymooners and weird thing he was when Art Carney lived in New York for a short time my father was his doctor and then eventually Art Carney moved to Connecticut and then towards the end of his life his father his doctor was my father-in-law weird very weird that's why yeah small world anyway yeah all right
JVL01:01:22thank you know I I don't think you looked at your notes once yeah no I haven't haven't you been seeing
Vic01:01:27me turn my head I'm like this no um just because I I see I I wanted to remember Art Carney and then uh corrections shout outs that's all oh no no no corrections just shout outs I got a ton of
JVL01:01:39shout outs can I got some shout out some shout outs would you like to do a shout out to Lara Mason Miss Bunny Lebowski yes so Lara Mason uh a great wonderful listener to the show
Vic01:01:51uh sent sent to us this morning good morning a cameo on email uh the cameo is the thing where the celebrities can you know they record a video for you record a video and uh Lara Mason got Tara Reid from American Pie and the Big Lebowski and others uh to record a message uh where she mentions me by name specifically and it's all it's all for you it's all about you it's not about me and Sonny it's all for you Damien all for you Vic and then she hangs so uh Tara Reid just has wonderful lovely things that she says about you know me suck your cock for a thousand dollars does she say that in the that i think was off script but she goes actually i think that's really kind of cool that's really cool she says and she still has that you know smoker's voice and uh do you believe she was drunk and then she makes the kisses down and i just put that on the big fan of yours she said
Sonny01:03:00that she said she's a big fan of yours so that's canon that's literally it's in the canon i believe
JVL01:03:06lara had to pay extra for her to be drunk when she recorded it i'd like normally you know what i
Vic01:03:13i listen to it i'm actually thinking of her from american pie um okay also hello uh to listener dan who i convinced to uh continue on listening to us on patreon i got out of mass last sunday and i was walked back to the car and a guy comes up and says excuse me are you vic mattis and i said maybe and he goes i'm a big fan of the show and so i said well thank you so much i don't know how he spotted me uh and then finally uh a shout out to listener dwayne carpenter who is also a physical therapist and was giving me some tips on how to take care of my shin splints so um that has been coming along quite i feel much
Sonny01:03:54better thank you uh i i have a couple of shout outs as well are you done vic are you done with your shout out okay uh i want to thank uh miss mason also sent me a nice little scratch and sniff bourbon book i i'm excited to kind of dip into that really um yeah i it's it's sitting on my shelf right now uh i'm gonna need a drink after this after that uh terrifying tornado uh watch warning that we we just had here in in dallas um and uh and also uh robert little uh i wanted to always say thank you uh he sent a bottle of blackbush uh for spirit of the week and that is going to actually be my spirit of the week now vic i'm just curious if gene what you want some if gene has ever tasted the blackbush once he go blackbush
Vic01:04:43sorry i'd just leave it at that uh there's also redbush um depending on your mood and i think
JVL01:04:50while drinking blackbush is that a thing that happens vic i don't know what that is a great
Sonny01:04:57song grass grass by music uh but uh thank you thank you very much to our friends and thank you honestly to every everybody uh every everybody who has chipped into the patreon uh because it means that vic will not abandon jvl and i jvl and i already have abandonment issues um and so it's getting dad to stay um uh it has been very has been very nice no i i'm i'm really serious actually i've always been i've always been um heartened by the number of people who will listen to my my nonsense and our nonsense and our various bullshit for for free and the fact that like almost a thousand people so far have decided that they we're worth at least a dollar a week uh you know is is a is a real real uh i find it very touching so yeah it's
JVL01:05:43great well uh thank you remember you can rate us on stitcher or subscribe no this is what i would like to say is actually because we are still you know it is a transit a moment of transition for us we are trying to bring everybody from the old audience along so to the extent that you guys can help spread the word and evangelize about the show it would be really deeply appreciated because we would like to bring as many people from the old from the old place along to this one this will
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JVL01:06:21all right uh vick what is the sign off i forget your sign off that you do and that's all the time
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Sonny01:06:46sorry that's my that's my tornado is that how it sounded like no i mean it sounded it's i'm imagining you know what you know that's exactly what it sounds like it sounds like an air raid siren and i like again i i could kind of hear it through my headphones maybe people will be able to pick it up uh in in their in their hearing they came through on the on the microphone but i could hear it like a little bit through my through my headphones i was like what is that sound why why are the cops not going away anyway you know weird weird night here in dallas in
Vic01:07:20tom's river uh growing up and uh you know the the army base and like lakehurst and fort dix were were nearby and mcguire they would on occasion practice and they would they would just fire up that air raid siren you know the the siren it's like for a nuclear emergency siren but you got used to it because you know it was just they would just test it from time to time and i remember when kate was visiting the first time uh or you know like early on when we got married and she heard that one night she really freaked out i thought it was like three mile
JVL01:07:54island or something no no it's it's just jersey so uh i have a little something yes that you don't know about vix you know about it sonny because you were there for it today but what is the opposite of a shout out oh because i blocked our first subscriber today yeah oh yeah yeah we had a guy who came onto the patreon and subscribed giving us two dollars a month and then wrote to sonny and i telling us that he hoped that his two dollars a month would help let us quit that awful day job we have for that terrible website
Vic01:08:34i can't believe that you you want to take my two dollars jvl jvl just said i'm sure it's fine
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